loan spell offically ended: https://twitter.com/ManCity/statuses/817339948512604160
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Better get over this blip in his career at City with the under-23 side or move onto another loan? This is a fairly important juncture in his career. He wasn't long settling in in Holland. If he's going abroad for half a season maybe that's a good option. He went across last season to Cambuur with a fellow City reserve (Berisha?) and City have players on loan at Twente, Heerenveen, NAC Breda and PSV Eindhoven at present.
I was thinking it might not be the worst idea to go on loan to New York city fc, under Vieira, who coached him in the u23's at city. New MLS season will be starting soon too.
Interesting idea. They both spoke glowingly of one another. How about being a midfielder under the daily tutelage of Andrea Pirlo and Patrick Vieria...
That's actually a great shout in fairness. Hopefully that comes to pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Manchester Evening News say hes heading back out on loan but no mention of where.
Scottish Sun linking him with Dundee
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thes...an-switch/amp/
Loi transfers Twitter account linking him with Heerenveen but can't find anything to back that up.
Time will tell.
Looks like a loan to the Eredivisie has been ruled out.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...t-loan-option/
Strange article. "but that is not on the cards for Byrne".. you think they'd state why it isn't and what is on these secret cards.
there's one line in that entire article that says he won't be going to Holland. No quotes, no sources, not even a rumour.
signed a three and a half year deal with Wigan: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/ar...c-3548918.aspx
Looks thrilled in the photo.
They're in the relegation zone in the Championship at the moment, three points behind Burton, albeit with a game in hand. Their game against Sheffield Wednesday on Friday night is on Sky Sports.
initially seems like a bad move as wigan look DOOMED but they have made a lot of signings this window. gabriel obertan, matt gilks (whose career seemed to fall apart after leaving blackpool) and (the admittedly awful) alex bruce perhaps being the most high profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
at least they are having a go...
Fantastic gives him stability somewhere he can be loved . We have seen kelly thrive this season and Ronan do well recently. Both similar players to Byrne physically and technically
Yeah, I think I'm happy enough too but hard to know. From his own point of view it's must be nice to have a proper contract and the chance of playing regular football (a bit of stability as Liamoo says). Are Wigan still a good footballing side does anybody know, in terms of their style of play? I haven't seen that Roberto poster here in a long time, wasn't he a Wigan fan (or was he just a Martinez fan?).
He was a wigan fan.
I think its a terrible move. its a long contract too. He obviously didn't have much options though, and not much love at City for him. Still I hope he didnt have a choice to go to the continent.
turned down a loan move to Heerenveen in JanuaryQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Ya, even a loan move would have been better than Wigan, he excelled there before. I thought though given his profile when in holland some of the bigger clubs might have taken a punt on him.
Time and again you hear hard luck stories, the cut throat nature of relegation football particularly so from the Championship, means players are bought and sold by managers who move on - generally sacked - and then new ones come in and replace them, and the player was bought or a favourite of the old manager and said player doesn't get his chance etc and so on and so forth.
Young manning being the inverse of that ; )
He needs to rebuild a little bit. Getting relegated to League One with Wigan didn't do James McClean any harm and he was at a far more critical juncture (granted a little more proven too). Once he nails down his place I'll be happy enough for now.
Ah thats comparing apples and oranges. Mclean had 3 PL seasons at that stage and had proven himself a good player, with international caps.
Byrne is a young lad relatively unproven in England and who didnt have a successful loan spell either.
Note the bit in brackets!
Anyway, it is different but I think the situation was more worrying for McClean to be honest. Once an established player starts dropping the divisions there's usually less chance of a way back. The most important thing for Byrne is to be playing football right now.
I'm very dubious of the move, and if as said above he turned down Heerenveen only to turn up at Wigan then that's poor advice or decision making, or both. Its all in the hands of his manager now till he gets established, its imperative that guy keeps his job and hopefully a by product of that will be staying in that division. Good luck to him, though. That's O'Hanlon & Byrne now both moved on without ever coming near first team at their sides, I suppose McAuley is our only other guy presently on the horizon at a regular CL side is he ?
Tyreke Wilson at City, injured at the moment, but highly rated. U17 captain Lee O'Connor is playing well at United's academy by all accounts. Although they're not a "CL regular" these days!
Was there an actual offer from Heerenveen or was that just speculation in that Sun article? They're going pretty well in the Dutch league, no guarantees he'd have seen much game time. Hopefully he will at Wigan.
Yeah I have to say I agree with this. It is good for him to have some certainty and a manager that sees him as part of long term plans and not just a loan arrangement.Quote:
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The one caveat I'd place on that optimism would be that it's hard to think that a relegation fight in the Championship will be the best showcase for his talents. Hopefully it will be the making of him. He's still young enough to have a terrific career.
Define on the horizon?! McAuley is only 16/ 17 and hasn't even played for the Liverpool u23 yet which in itself is full of young lads, not to mention the like of Woodburn in first team squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Wigan is a ok move. If Byrne is good enough in training he will get a chance and then it is up to him to take it.
There is no conspiracy against Irish players and the opportunities they get , as some ( not you) think on here ;)
On the horizon ... doing well in his age group to an extent that gives, albeit usually misplaced and inevitably false, hope, and in a fashion that has people speaking highly of his ability and chances presently ..... on the horizon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kennedmc
Byrne says James McClean played a big role in his decision to join Wigan: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/ar...y-3549387.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sep0YKzydBA
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Originally Posted by Jack Byrne
Not in the squad for tonight's game. Probably not match fit?
They haven't included any of their nine new signings in the first 11 so some of them had to miss out off the bench. They're on a three game winning run in the league so I guess he doesn't want to tinker.
Wiggie have 20 games in 14 weeks coming up and Jack is sure to feature in a tremendous amount of them according to reports.
Although I'm underwhelmed by this move, I think Byrne could have fun with this team. They really did a lot right vs SWFC and more control of the ball in the middle and final third would have paid dividends.
Any word on why he hasnt been involved since the move, has he been injured?
no idea, but I did notice that there's no mention of him on their website since the transfer announcement, and an interview the day later.
Too early to write him off yet but can help but feeling that he is going to be looked on as too small for English football, or some crap like that.
This is the concern definitely, and hopefully he isn't Conor Cliffords age before he changes course if it starts going arseways. Meanwhile, Heerenveen are still in with a shout of Europe.
Or Wes, who was in his late 20s before he was given any credit.
Asked this before but do we know if that Heerenveen link was actually a real thing? It sucks if he's not injured and still not even making the Wigan bench, even at this early stage.
Seems to come across as a good fella so Id be surprised if its an attitude problem with him like so many other young lads ( not working hard enough in training etc). I just think players like him can been seen too much of a luxury player in the lower divisions of English football so a move to the Continent would from the outside seem to be what he should have gone after.
Then again, he could be a little ****** to deal with and drinkin every second night of the weeks, so who knows :)
Don't know which clubs in truth but from joining Blackburn to be in MONs plans to his present Wigan predicament is a real test of his belief, and good luck to him - http://www.the42.ie/jack-byrne-turne...56638-Jul2016/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Byrne
Self belief, tenacity and the ability to overcome hurdles would seem to be what Byrne needs now. From the interviews I have read and watched, he seems to be someone who has the qualities and outlook to do everything in his power to be his best. Will be an interesting and hopefully successful journey to observe.
Wiggie ? Have you got the English habit of seemingly just having every nickname ending in ie or y ? In our club we had a "Lardars*, Biggles, Sumo, Anto (of course), CaptNemo, P'Oh, Bushy, Twinkle, Chucker, Hector (name was John), Big Al etc etc - not one had a Y added to his surname. If you ever hear Morgan talking about the English cricket team, it's Cooky, Belly (no pun there), Rooty, Halesy, Stokesy....totally devoid of imagination.Quote:
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Anyway, I hope Byrnesy gets more game time soon.