Limerick Desmond League 2012/13

UPDATED RESULTS AND FIXTURES after Sunday 16-09-12
Kerry, Clare, Desmond

Round 1
Newcastle West Rvs (Desmond) 4-2 Adare Utd (Desmond)
Shannonside Utd (Desmond) 2-2 Dingle Bay Rovers (Kerry), Dingle win 5-3 on Pens AET.
Glin Rovers (Desmond) 0-0 Listowel Celtic (Kerry) , Listowel win 6-5 on Pens AET .
Lifford FC (Clare) 11-0 Rineanna Rovers (Clare)
Carrig Celtic (Desmond) 1-2 St. Brendans Park (Kerry) , AET .

Round 2
Newcastle West FC (Desmond) v Castleisland FC (Kerry)
Ennis Town FC (Clare) v Tulla Utd (Clare)
Newmarket Celtic (Clare) v Abbeyfeale Utd (Desmond)
Rathkeale Utd (Desmond) v Newcastle West Rovers (Desmond)
Kilkishen Celtic (Clare) v Mastergeena FC (Kerry)
Shannon Olympic (Clare) v Killarney Ath (Kerry)
Coole FC (Clare) v Spa Road Celtic (Kerry)
Pallaskenry FC (Desmond) v St. Brendans Park(Kerry)
Ballingarry FC (Desmond) v Burren Utd (Clare)
Classic FC (Kerry) v Dingle Bay Rvs (Kerry)
Bridge Celtic (Clare) v Tralee Dynamos (Kerry)
Avenue Utd (Clare) v Lifford FC (Clare)
Connolly Celtic (Clare) v Killeaney FC (Desmond)
Broadford Utd (Desmond) v Ruan Utd(Clare)
Listowel Celtic (Kerry) v Killarney Celtic (Kerry)
Bridge Utd (Clare) v Rhine Rovers (Clare)

1st round ties 15th /16th sept
2nd round ties 13th/ 14th oct

Saturday, September 22nd

FAI U17 Cup Preliminary Round (et & pens)
Rathkeale V Killarney Celtic 230pm (T. Fitzmaurice)

Munster Youths Cup 2nd Round (et & pens)
Creeves Celtic V Abbeyfeale Utd 1200 (P. O’Connor)

Sunday, September 23rd

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Killeaney V Pallaskenry 1030am (P. O’Connor)
Kilcornan V Rockhill Rovers 1030am (D. O’Gorman)
Ballysteen V Adare Utd 1030am (P. Manning)
Rathkeale V Broadford Utd 1030am (T. Fitzmaurice)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Shannonside FC 1030am (G. O’Connor)
Old Mill V Newcastle West Rovers 130pm (D. Wallace)
Feenagh V Ballingarry B 130pm (S. Hartnett)

Reidy Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Breska Rovers V Creeves Celtic 1030am (E. Barrett)
Glantine V Athea Utd 1030am (S. Hartnett)
Knockaderry V Kildimo Utd 1030am (C. Dalton)
Askeaton V Newcastle West Rovers B 1030am (B. Nash)
St Itas V Broadford Utd B 130pm (G. O’Connor)
St Bens V Ferry Rangers 130pm (P. O’Donnell)

Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Ballingarry 1030am (P. O’Brien)
Newcastle West V Carrig Celtic 1030am (J. Roche)

Division 2
Granagh Utd V Carrig Celtic B 130pm (T. Fitzmaurice)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Rathkeale Reserves 130pm (J. Roche)

Division 3
Kilcolman Rovers V Athea Utd B 130pm (P. King)

Division 4
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1030am (B. Barry)
Shannonside FC B V Creeves Celtic B 130pm in Shanagolden (P. O’Connor)

killeaney vs newcastle was off because of bereavment..a killeaney players grandmother passed away

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Killeaney V Pallaskenry 1030am home
Kilcornan V Rockhill Rovers 1030am away
Ballysteen V Adare Utd 1030am away
Rathkeale V Broadford Utd 1030am home
Abbeyfeale Utd V Shannonside FC 1030am home
Old Mill V Newcastle West Rovers 130pm away
Feenagh V Ballingarry B 130pm home

Reidy Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Breska Rovers V Creeves Celtic 1030am home
Glantine V Athea Utd 1030am away
Knockaderry V Kildimo Utd 1030am away
Askeaton V Newcastle West Rovers B 1030am home
St Itas V Broadford Utd B 130pm home
St Bens V Ferry Rangers 130pm away

Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Ballingarry 1030am away
Newcastle West V Carrig Celtic 1030am home

Division 2
Granagh Utd V Carrig Celtic B 130pm home
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Rathkeale Reserves 130pm draw

Division 3
Kilcolman Rovers V Athea Utd B 130pm home

Division 4
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1030am home
Shannonside FC B V Creeves Celtic B 130pm home

Anyone hear anything about Newcastle having points deducted from them for their wins over Abbey and Shannonside, as they fielded an illegal/suspended player? If so, surely Abbey and Shannonside will get the points? And if true, the league will become very tight! This happened last year when Newcastle played a suspended player in a win over Shannonside, and apparently because they didnt appeal within 4 days then nothing happened, which is a ridiculous rule but is changed now, so i hear.

Desmond youth trials this thursday in Claunreask. Players to be there at 7.00pm. All players welcome.

Couple of good munster junior games the weekend,alot of gaa on this weekend too so some teams could be missing a few, drom abbeyfeale and ncw are all playing in senior football championship.Is it true the abbeyfeale manager has packed it in? did anyone else hear that?

i doubt Newcastle would make the same mistake as last year.good games on this weekend alright but arent they on friday and saturday night?i also heard that the abbeyfeale manager has packed it in..

Found that hilarious last season. The one thing shannonside actually do well is complain. The one time they don't and it cost them 3 points.;)

shannonside dont complain do they??? :)

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Originally Posted by fanaticfan

i doubt Newcastle would make the same mistake as last year.good games on this weekend alright but arent they on friday and saturday night?i also heard that the abbeyfeale manager has packed it in..

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I'd be shocked if this is true but if it is a points deduction for those games is surely not enough as this is downright cheating same as it was last season against shannonside & ncw rovers. Shannonside were in with a shout of winning the league at that stage and ncw rovers could have been relegated because of it.
Maybe a 10 point deduction on top!
I doubt this is true.

going by todays observer it show ncw in third place winning 2 games and drawing 1 so i doubt that its true.if it is true then its a disgrace doing it two years in a row and should be deducted points from both games they won but its hardly true

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Originally Posted by fanaticfan

going by todays observer it show ncw in third place winning 2 games and drawing 1 so i doubt that its true.if it is true then its a disgrace doing it two years in a row and should be deducted points from both games they won but its hardly true

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When they got deducted points last year, it wasn't in the observer for at least a week or two after the complaint was made! So maybe true yet...
who was the alleged ineligible player/players they played??

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Originally Posted by walkover

When they got deducted points last year, it wasn't in the observer for at least a week or two after the complaint was made! So maybe true yet...
who was the alleged ineligible player/players they played??

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Its not true, if it was the player would already have been named. Its just lads on here trying to stir it

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Originally Posted by Leon

Its not true, if it was the player would already have been named. Its just lads on here trying to stir it

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I just heard there that they are being deducted points in the youth league for playing ineligible players, so maybe someone got it mixed up,they really need a new Secretary that crowd.

The league need to punish this more severely. Youths and juniors are the same club so the same people made the same mistake twice.
Breska Rovers seem to have gotten away with the same thing this year. They played an illegal player twice in the league in games the won and drew. I know this for a fact because I saw a player get sent off for apparently headbutting him. This was reported and they still played him in the next game. I think a complaint has gone in but nothing has been done. Joke.
On another note, we arent doing so well in FAI cup, nearly every team beaten by clubs from another league, not a good sign

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Originally Posted by nowayref

Found that hilarious last season. The one thing shannonside actually do well is complain. The one time they don't and it cost them 3 points.;)

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Why do you say Shannonside complain? Just curious!

not going well in the fai so far with 3 teams from kerry beating 3 desmond sides so far but i can see some desmond teams winning in the 2nd round like ballingarry,newcastle west,abbeyfeale and broadford united,rathkeale should beat ncw rovers in the local game and hopefully some others can win also.

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Originally Posted by Trumours

Anyone hear anything about Newcastle having points deducted from them for their wins over Abbey and Shannonside, as they fielded an illegal/suspended player? If so, surely Abbey and Shannonside will get the points? And if true, the league will become very tight! This happened last year when Newcastle played a suspended player in a win over Shannonside, and apparently because they didnt appeal within 4 days then nothing happened, which is a ridiculous rule but is changed now, so i hear.

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well they're (ye shannonside) are complaining about newcastle fielding an illegal or suspended player against ye and abbeyfeale and probably want the points that ncw took off ye haha.thats probably why shannonside are good at complaining

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Originally Posted by Trumours

Why do you say Shannonside complain? Just curious!

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Just an observation Trumours having played against them but probably a bit unfair as we can all throw the toys out of the pram.

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Originally Posted by fanaticfan

well they're (ye shannonside) are complaining about newcastle fielding an illegal or suspended player against ye and abbeyfeale and probably want the points that ncw took off ye haha.thats probably why shannonside are good at complaining

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Firstly, I am unsure if Newcastle played an illegal player, but it seems to have some substance from what I hear as well as what people are saying on here, as well as them having a history from doing so last year.
Secondly, any club with common sense would look into that, as playing illegal players is...how would you call it....illegal!! And points should be awarded to the opposing team without question, if true. So if you are saying that Shannonside are good at complaining, then you are also saying the Ncw are good at playing illegal players....good point you made!! Not

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Originally Posted by nowayref

Just an observation Trumours having played against them but probably a bit unfair as we can all throw the toys out of the pram.

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They sure can complain at matches, theres no question about that!! But then again I have never watched a team who hasnt...!

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Killeaney V Pallaskenry 1030am home
Kilcornan V Rockhill Rovers 1030am away
Ballysteen V Adare Utd 1030am away
Rathkeale V Broadford Utd 1030am away
Abbeyfeale Utd V Shannonside FC 1030am home
Old Mill V Newcastle West Rovers 130pm away
Feenagh V Ballingarry B 130pm home

Reidy Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Breska Rovers V Creeves Celtic 1030am away
Glantine V Athea Utd 1030am away
Knockaderry V Kildimo Utd 1030am away
Askeaton V Newcastle West Rovers B 1030am home
St Itas V Broadford Utd B 130pm home
St Bens V Ferry Rangers 130pm home

Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Ballingarry 1030am draw
Newcastle West V Carrig Celtic 1030am home

Division 2
Granagh Utd V Carrig Celtic B 130pm home
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Rathkeale Reserves 130pm draw

Division 3
Kilcolman Rovers V Athea Utd B 130pm away

Division 4
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1030am home
Shannonside FC B V Creeves Celtic B 130pm home

NCW should be punished heavy if true,but heard for a fact its only lads stirring on here.nothing changes!!

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Originally Posted by southern kid

NCW should be punished heavy if true,but heard for a fact its only lads stirring on here.nothing changes!!

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From what i've heard, the player (a young goalkeeper) that played against shannonside and Abbeyfeale was suspended from schoolboys at the end of last season for 2 or 3 games. Then when he played juniors, people thought that the suspension carried but apparently the ruling is that schoolboys to juniors is a different league so suspension didn't apply. Could be wrong but thats what i've heard.

The League will be a complete joke if Breska get away with this. Last season NCW rovers got the points when NCW played a suspended player. The pretty much made NCW Rovers safe fromrelegation and all but condemed Kildimo United to relegation. And this season Breska played an suspended player against Kildimo and got a draw because of it. Kildimo would be on max points this season if it wasn't for that draw. If the league doesn't take action then Kildimo will have been punished twice in two successive seasons, because of other teams playing illegal players.

A few years ago we implemented a policy whereby if you got booked for mouthing or basically anything but a tackle, you got a €10 fine from the club. If you got sent off for the same it was a €25. Last season we had the fourth best team in terms of getting yellow cards and were one of only 4 clubs not to get a red all season:
Juniors Best Discipline: Clubs with fewest yellow cards
Askeaton (11), Glantine (13), Shountrade (15), Kildimo (20). Clubs with no red
cards Carrig Celtic, Ferry Rangers, Kildimo Utd, Knockaderry.

So why should we be punished twice in two successive seasons, because other teams blatently show no respect for the rules of the league and play illegal/suspended players? While we were probably the best team in terms of discipline last season?

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Originally Posted by nathanbrown

The league need to punish this more severely. Youths and juniors are the same club so the same people made the same mistake twice.
Breska Rovers seem to have gotten away with the same thing this year. They played an illegal player twice in the league in games the won and drew. I know this for a fact because I saw a player get sent off for apparently headbutting him. This was reported and they still played him in the next game. I think a complaint has gone in but nothing has been done. Joke.
On another note, we arent doing so well in FAI cup, nearly every team beaten by clubs from another league, not a good sign

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NCW youths have been deducted 3 points in youth div 1, I was told this from a NCW club member, so that's probably the story and someone decided to stir a bit on here.
I think the rule on this playing illegal players has to be reviewed because as it stands the club are only punished if they win the match in question.
I understand that anyone can make a mistake however the same club 3 times within a few months makes me wonder and as the punishment is so small imo maybe its worth a risk that you won't be found out.
Seaniefitz I agree that what happened kildimo is unfortunate I feel that Ncw Rovers & shannonside were the ones that were really effected but at least Ncw Rovers were awarded the points in the end,the shannonside result probably put them out of the running in the league.
Why are ye not getting the breska game as it seems cut & dry from the information on here?

I see from another thread that we have no Oscar traynor team entered this season. We won it only 5 seasons ago, very surprised at this.

Some people on here love causing a stir and a load of rubbish talk.newcastle west really should look at themselves after it happening again,i know its only the youths team but its from the same club.you can hardly punish their junior team for it but should punish them with a fine or something.newcastle rovers seem to be in trouble like answers above said but last weeks victory in the fai junior cup might push them on abit.i heard last week alright that theres no oscar traynor team because nobody wants to take them over,a real shame after they winning it 5years ago.

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Originally Posted by BoyBlue

I see from another thread that we have no Oscar traynor team entered this season. We won it only 5 seasons ago, very surprised at this.

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great shame..... there is good talent in the league.....was their really no one out there to take the managers position???

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Originally Posted by soccer8

great shame..... there is good talent in the league.....was their really no one out there to take the managers position???

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ya thats what i heard that nobody wanted to take them over.a real shame.theres loads of great talent in this league to get far or even win it again

Sunday, September 23rd

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Killeaney 2 Pallaskenry 0
Kilcornan 0 Rockhill Rovers 1

Reidy Cup 1st Round
Breska Rovers 3 Creeves Celtic 1
Glantine 5 Athea Utd 2
Askeaton 3 Newcastle West Rovers B 2

Premier Division
Glin Rovers 2 Ballingarry 3
Newcastle West 5 Carrig Celtic 1

Munster junior
Abbey 2 shannonside 0
Old mill 0 ncw rovers 3

good result for ballingarry and ncw this morning in the league..ballingarry top of the table now i think.thats good to see,tough place to go and get a win in glin..i heard ncw destroyed carrig celtic and were up 2-0 after 4 minutes and were winning 5-1 at half time.

any other results lads?western gale is very late with them.

Saturday, September 29th

Youths Division 1
Adare Utd V Newcastle West 230 (E. Barrett)

Youths Division 2
Feenagh V St Itas 230 (B. Nash)
Glantine V Askeaton 230 (C. Dalton)
Carrig Celtic V Pallaskenry 230 (D. Wallace)
Breska Rovers V Bally Rovers 1130 (P. Manning)

Sunday, September 30th

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Newcastle West V Glin Rovers 1030am (D. O’Gorman)

Reidy Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Ballysteen V Kilcornan 1030am (P. O’Brien)
Feenagh V Glin Rovers B 1030am (C. Dalton)
Old Mill V Carrig Celtic B 130pm (P. Manning)

Richard Hogan Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Rathkeale Reserves V Granagh Utd 130pm (B. Barry)
St Bens V Abbeyfeale Utd B 130pm (J. Molyneaux)
Bally Rovers V Pallaskenry 1030am (B. Nash)

Premier Division
Ballingarry V Broadford Utd 1030am (L. O’Connor)
Carrig Celtic V Abbeyfeale Utd 1030am (T. Fitzmaurice)
Shannonside V Newcastle West Rovers 1030am (J. Roche)
Killeaney V Rathkeale 1030 (G. O’Connor)

Division 1
Adare Utd V Rockhill Rovers 1030 (S. Hartnett)
Breska Rovers V Glantine 1030 (E. Barrett)

Division 2
Creeves Celtic V Newcastle West B 130pm (T. Fitzmaurice)

Division 3
Ferry Rangers V Kilcornan B 130pm (P. King)

Division 4
Newcastle West Rovers B V Feenagh B 1030am (D. Wallace)

Sunday, September 23rd

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Killeaney 2 Pallaskenry 0
Kilcornan 0 Rockhill Rovers 1
Ballysteen 1 Adare Utd 2
Rathkeale 2 Broadford Utd 3
Abbeyfeale Utd 2 Shannonside 0
Old Mill 0 Newcastle West Rovers 3
Feenagh 5 Ballingarry B 4 aet

Reidy Cup 1st Round
Breska Rovers 3 Creeves Celtic 1
Glantine 5 Athea Utd 2
Askeaton 3 Newcastle West Rovers B 2


Premier Division
Glin Rovers 2 Ballingarry 3
Newcastle West 5 Carrig Celtic 1

Division 2
Granagh Utd 0 Carrig Celtic B 0

Division 3
Kilcolman Rovers V Athea Utd B, walkover to Athea Utd B

Division 4
Shountrade 4 St Itas B 0
Shannonside B 4 Creeves Celtic 0

up to date munster junior cup
2nd round draw

2nd Round Draw

A Adare Utd v Killeaney
B Newcastle West Rvs v Feenagh Utd
C Breska Rovers or Kilcolman Rvs v Ballingarry "A"
D Abbeyfeale United v Newcastle West AFC or Glin Rvs "A"
E Glin Rovers "B" v Carrig Celtic
F Broadford Utd v Rockhill Rvs

3rd Round Draw

C v E
B v D
A v F

Heard today Kilcolman are winding up

sad to hear bout kilcolman folding up if true. they gave a walkover last weekend

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Originally Posted by PatRooney

Desmond youth trials this thursday in Claunreask. Players to be there at 7.00pm. All players welcome.

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Who are over youths this year.