Good win for Town. Not a great performance. Still it's three points. Will have to improve if we are to stand a chance next week against Celtic. I'm sure the boys will be up for it
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Good win for Town. Not a great performance. Still it's three points. Will have to improve if we are to stand a chance next week against Celtic. I'm sure the boys will be up for it
Any truth Celtic had only 10 player until 10 mins into the second half? Not a good sign for the season ahead if so.
I seriously doubt that. They have a huge squad
Maybe I'm wrong. But I'd say my information isn't to far wrong. From what I got Paul Kennedy only arrived 10 mins into the second half to make 11. All the talk is of Celtic challenging michaels this year. Surely if they can only find 10 players for the first game it's not a good sign. But still they have three points on the board they'l say that's all that counts.
Thats a huge surprise. It's poor form that they could only get 10 players. Where were all the players? I know they have a few injuries - strange all the same
If Celtic can only field 10 what will they be like for the season? There suppose too be micheals big opposition this year. Doesn't look lik it which is bad for the league.
Was at the Celtic game tonight and yea they did have 10 players until 10mins into the 2nd half apparently Paul Kennedy told them he would be 10 mins late which never happened plus they had 3 players on the bench i thought it was a disgrace what they done a team getin to big for their boots i think. Must say it was a very enjoyable game and tbh the Wilderness didnt deserve to lose some horrendous ref decisions went against them especially at 1-1 with 15 mins remaining Celtic were rewarded a penalty that every man in the crowd couldnt believe was giving and endend up with the sending off of Niall Kelly which was beyond belief. Over all a fantastic game to watch and great credit must go the Wilderness for such a gallant effort that deserved so much more.I have to say and i hate doing it at this early part of season but again we have a ref that seemed to want to take center stage a shocking performance from Tommy Keating who isnt up to Premier League standard.
Chops I spoke to a man that was at the game and he said the pen was prob a def pen and he said Kelly's behaviour was a disgrace after being put off. I don't think the ref in question would ever want too take center stage and come on what would he get from taking center stage at that game? Sour grapes it sounds lik to me. Great to have the soccer back but not so great to have lads going on about refs already!!
I can't believe they started with 10 men and left 3 on bench talking about a total lack of respect for the opposition not sure where they are coming from at the end of the day they won nothing last year and there is huge pressure on them to deliver this year anyway my predictionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Chops
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its a lack of respect for the opposition but an insult to the 3 players that were on the bench, how can you justify starting with 10 when you have 3 subsQuote:
Originally Posted by rightboy
They had 3 subs on the bench and started with 10? Surely this can't be true? Celtic I taught might push mikes this year but il have too change my mind if all is true from the game yesterday. Maybe jpmoose can't tell us the in's and out of the game yesterday he seems too have all the Celtic news!!!
Just to clarify the matter yes we did start with ten men because paul kennedy was at a chrisenen and txt to say he was runing late but got held up on the way. He was on the card as the 11 player. The 2 lads on the bench were carrying injuries so we didnt want to chance them.it was a gamble we took and it payed off. As regards squad 4 at a wedding 1 on hols 1 suspended and a few out injured.
I am very surprised at Celtic behaving like this. It's sounds very arrogant. It showed a complete lack of respect for the opposition. Plus what must the subs be thinking. If I were a sub, I know I'd be really insulted. Really surprised at Karl and Kenny behaving this way.That said I think they will be right up there come may. However it was poor carry on last night.
Now why would i want to have sour grapes when ive nothing to do with either club as for you to comment when you were not at the game bet you got your stories from a Celtic fan.3 Celtic players laughed when the decision for the penalty was giving and i wouldnt blame Niall Kelly for been upset about been sent off for it the tackle was an outstanding tackle.You even try to say i lied about the way they had 10 men and had 3 subs if you were not at the game dont comment on something that someone else has seen that was there.Did this person also tell ya about the behaviour of the Celtic players diving around at every tackle that was made they went down a lot in my estimation....And the subs that were suppose to be injured funny the way they were able to come on and play a part. Well done Clonmel Town And Old Bridge on great wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coconuts
Agree totally with ya complexman it was a complete lack of respect i heard one of the Wilderness officials confronted both Kenny and Karl about it after the game it could of gave the Wilderness an advantage but they were unhappy with the respect that was shown to them.There appeared to be a small bit of a scuffle on the way out involving a Wilderness player and Tony Acheson aswel not sure what it was over tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by complexman
Before people who come on here with remarks like 'total lack of repect for the oppostition and their subs' could get their facts right and engage their brains before they start typing. The gamble Celtic took was explained to the subs beforehand and I am sure the Wildies (who Celtic have a very good relationship with) understood Celtic's dilemna. A player who was supposed to be a few minutes late, and therefore entered on the match card, ended up been delayed. Celtic had a couple of players who started with injuries, 1 in particular (with a hamstring problem) was not expected to last the 90 minutes. So they took a gamble, started with 10 men rather than running the risk of a tiring Celtic finishing a tough game with 10 players or less. Some Celtic supporters also questioned the management's thinking. However they took a risk and it paid off. Next time maybe it won't but a good manager sometimes has to make tough decisions and take risks. So you can leave all this 'lack of respect' rubbish out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rightboy
Lad was tellin me this morning that Peake are lodging a complaint about an illegal player playin for Bridge last night! Anyone hear anything about this?
david joyce was clatered and denied a clear penalty a few mins before. Diving i duno what game u were watching.
Jpmoose you should be on sky sports news!! You Ave all the info. What's this about the bridge?
haha havent heard about the bridge yet. Hopefuly its not true because them 3 points could be very valuable at the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coconuts
That's your thoughts on it and being a Celtic supporter and possibly officer you are correct and it's only right to defend them. However other people are entitled to their opinions. Telling people to engage their brains is again smacks of arrogance and being disrespectful. I geuinely have great time for Celtic and they way they have progressed on and off the field but I will never agree with doing something like what they did last night. Time to move on though
Thats true everyone is entitled to an opinion. Roll on next weekend and leave the football do the talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by complexman
Ah it's great to have the soccer and these debates back 😊!! I dont think any team would start with 10 if they had 11 on purpose come on now!! Strange one but let's move on. Great result for the bridge yest. What's the story with villa any1 know? You'd expect them too Win them sort of games.
With all that has been going on at the Bridge and Players trying to Sign and Transfer, you could see a mistake being made, maybe Peake think the 48 Hour rule was broken!!! Even so it sound like Peake will be in a bottom of the table dog fight this season with Bansha, Wilderness and Old Bridge. Heard the Town- Bansha game could have gone either way and that Town were Poor. This could be the poorest Premier League in the TSDL for years!. Take out Celtic and Saints and the rest are average at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBilko
Have to agree Town were poor. They had a great pre season but it's a new team and it's only the 1st match. They will have to improve and they will. Expectations are low
People would make ya laugh. Lack of respect they say. Celtic made a call based on what the player had told them on when he would be there for the game. They had him on the card as a starter so to sub him would mean using a player nd not bein able to use the player when he eventually came to the game - 2 blows in 1. Wasn't at the game but says enough when hearing wildies rarely threatened in the first half against 10 men. Not sure about this but heard wildies played 1-4-6-0? Is that true crazy stuff altogether.…great that the season is back.
On a lighter note was at the town game. Bansha hit woodwork alright but town still have Scully mcsharry Comerford quinlivan shanahan etc so will be v strong. Dave McGrath came on too…him n shanahan looked good upfront. Barry ryan at 33 maybe lot of miles on the legs and not the player he was few years back. Interesting game next wk.
Is it true that the referee never turned up for the Town game and T Maher had to fill in, the fact that he made himself available at short notice deserves a bit of credit since referees get so much stick on here...Barry Ryan is 29/30?
T Maher was down to Ref the game since Wednesday. He had to be rung by Town when he did not turn up, He thought the game was on 2day !!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by stelling
Haha ok i totally retract that, i was spun a different story.....by a referee!!!! Back to slaughtering officials again :)Quote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
I hope Celtic get tore apart by every club they play there is n arrogance about them
I have to agree with you Chops that they showed a complete lack of respect to Wilderness in doing what they did and you know what they say about Karma...comes back to bite you in the ass,they won't make too many friends doing things like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Chops
I think if michaels or town did it, they would be the first to slag them over it. They may have had good reasons but I still think it was arrogant and disrespectful. I was mortified a few seasons ago when the town players wouldnt stay on the pitch when Villa won the league. Even the tone of Roberto and other Celtic supporters and officials on this site is arrogant. Telling people to engage their brain and people would make you laugh, they refuse to see the other persons opinion. I like Celtic but they can get very defensive and now it appear they are above criticism. They really showed Wildies and their subs what they thought of them. Everyone applauded them on the great cup runs and especially the style of football but they will have lost friends over this.
I don't think this is a witch hunt either,i think any club would have been slaughtered over this,god if st michaels did it then the site would have to be closed down!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by complexman
Just read Celtic match report. As usual John Power gives an excellent report but no mention of starting with ten menQuote:
Originally Posted by stelling
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Originally Posted by complexman
Lets set the record straight here. Celtic had 2 substitutes, both very young lads who were helping out on the day considering the loss of so many players. Celtic names the strongest team available by naming Paul Kennedy up front. Paul Kennedy was due to be 5 mins late for the start of the game however he got further delayed than he thought something that Celtic weren't to know otherwise he would have been named as a sub. To suggest that Celtic decided just to name 10 players is ludicrous if anything the fact that they were willing to give one of their best players as much time as needed is testament to the fact that they realised that it was going to be a very difficult challenge. Had they known Paul Kennedy was going to be as late as he was they would have without doubt named his as a sub. It was a gamble that didn't pay off. To suggest that they were belittling the challenge of Wilderness is completely wide of the mark. In fact the two clubs have a good relationship. People come on this to throw mud in a lot of cases but it's not always accurate. Having won just 2 trophies I can assure you the club is anything but arrogant. Clonmel Celtic is a lot more receptive to clubs that are not as well off as they are, its not so long ago celtc were in a similar position and they realise that and also how fortunate they have been in recent yrs. Arrogance for the majority of the clubs is not an issue, as with every club there are one or two who may feel different. In this case it had nothin to do with arrogance.
I have never managed a team but i just can't see the logic in starting with 10, surely you start with 11 and someones disappointed if they are hauled off after 10 mins when he arrivesQuote:
Originally Posted by complexman
By the sounds of it Celtic have no morals but saints have done the same thing in their time.nothing to do with clubs but managers decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by stelling
If Paul Kennedy had arrived when he was due to this would not even be discussed maybe a foot note to say he arrived a couple of mins late. To suggest that some have no morals is just getting a bit carried away. It was genuine misunderstanding not something that was a deliberate ploy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rushy12
In hindsight do you think Karl and Kenny would do the same again?Quote:
Originally Posted by bishbash
If they believed that the player was going to be a little late then yes I do, they wanted to name their strongest team possible how this is arrogant I don't know. It backfired when he was delayed far longer than they were led to believe. To say they belittled the wilderness is to suggest that they thought they would beat them with ten men and that is just rubbish. They knew it was going to be a very tricky game and this has been blown out of all proportion.Quote:
Originally Posted by stelling