The IT had a piece from the news conference where Pirlo said he decided to do that penalty after Hart had made his move, that Hart had been a bit puffed up.
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The IT had a piece from the news conference where Pirlo said he decided to do that penalty after Hart had made his move, that Hart had been a bit puffed up.
I also read that Prandelli questioned him about it. Pirlo said it served another purpose too - to pump up his teammates. Quality thinking, if true.
Edit - this is what Pirlo said:
The outrageously cheeky penalty that Pirlo chipped past Joe Hart with his team trailing in the shoot-out is known in Italian as a cucchiaio (spoon) and apparently the midfielder mastered the art as a teenager at Brescia's academy.
Pirlo did not try to dismiss the significance of the way in which he scored: "It was really relevant to the match and our win. This changed the course of the game. In my opinion, Hart seemed to be very confident in himself and, scoring against him this way, it did seem to be a psychological blow. I needed to do something to beat him. Penalties are a very personal thing.
"When you have to shoot a penalty you have to be confident in yourself. I didn't say anything special to my team-mates. We are united as a group."
Yesterday, a member of the Italian media suggested that perhaps he was a bit mad and that might be some kind of explanation for why he took such a risky penalty. "Look, it was not folly. It was not madness," Pirlo said. "I felt like doing that thing at that moment in time. I don't think I was mad when I hit this penalty. I just had this moment of inspiration before I took it."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...s-3151560.html
Yeah, the 'psychological blow' thing was significant.
Good on Pirlo.
Am expecting Ingerland to win their next shoot-out v.us in Turkey, 2020...
Pique having a shocker but Portugal need to score cos I can see them tiring with this harrying.
Yep, but equally I can see Portugal getting one major chance. On balance though I can see Spain wearing them out.
It's not just harrying, it's a bit cleverer than that. Portugal are taking up clever positions without the ball.
BBC commentary driving me mad.
I don't have the requisite word for what Portugal are doing.
Harrying will do.
Spain coming into it more. Bento needs to make a change.
They need a Paolo Verde of their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
probaly gonna give this the kiss of death but I was gonna put some money on spain but then
I looked at the first 10 minutes and opted for the draw.
expect a goal right after I post!!!
Portugal do a decent job marking up, not chasing the ball around like we did
but but keeping their players marked so it is not easy to pass, you can see the Portuguese waiting for the passes.
We wait until the pas has been made and chase ball.
The dullest game ever?
Hope so then I can claim on the draw :)
goal chance ha ha chance missed :)
Hmm..
That Ronaldo is a great lad
I am annoyed cos I backed Italy and they drew. 60 seconds and I collect.
could well be a draw germany italy.
i didn't find it too boring, mind you I was out at the shops for some of it, it is a bit like a game of chess
this passing game, you have to think a move ahead, but we only look at the next move.
Dam we have enough 30 mins of this carp lol.
lol indeed.
looks like only spain can win it before penos
i put some money on spain to qualify in the extra time, seemed a decent bet but it went to peno's still won though
Gutted
Why? Portugal played like Spain without the skill.
And if Italy got to the Final...
I enjoyed that game. Tough on Portugal, but what an effort they put in with 9 outfield players. Coentrao and Pepe were outstanding. Spain were the only team left standing in ET.
Radical game plan leaving their strikers on the bench. Maybe we could try that sometime.
Somehow the dink down the middle in the penalty shoot out was a bit of an anti climax, after Pirlo it will be seen as a form of plagiarism.
Context is everything. Knowing what we know about the relative ability of the two teams, how they play and what was at stake, I found it intriguing. But if that was a cold February league game with just the points at stake I'd have been screaming at both teams to do more.
Portugal played like Spain? .tf?
I'm gutted cos yet again I tipped the losing team.
Whats the deal with Ronnie waiting for Pen number 5? Bizarre stuff.
Is there someone who doesn't like your losing tips, out to gut you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The 5th is the pressure one, why should Ronaldo lower himself to take one of the easier penalties?Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
No, the first 3 are the pressure ones...
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
So who are you backing for the Final, just so we know...
I'm afraid to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Not if the scores are level after the first 3!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I think 1, 4 and 5 are the ones where you want your really best takers to step up.
1 to put a marker down
2 and 3 - well they're unlikely to be life or death affairs, you've still got a bail out option or another sucker to share the blame with.
4 - if it's got to 4 it's more than likely it's all to play for. It might be virtually sudden death at this stage.
5 - if it's got this far it's crucial.
Well yeah, agree with the theory.
But it doesn't usually work out like that...
The trick is to be the first side to miss a penalty, I think the records show that side goes through.
So I would put the best player second, that is the real pressure one.
I woudl have put Ronaldo first because he was blasting them over top all night.
Tricky is right on this one I reckon.
:rolleyes:
The no.of shoot-outs at the top level where the side missing first progresses is unreal. The only time I recall that not happening was this year's Chumps Lge. Final...
Just to let some facts get in the way of debate
From the Journal of Sports Sciences, success rate at Finals competition
- First kick 86.6%
- Second kick 81.7%
- Third kick 79.3%
- Fourth kick 72.5%
- Fifth kick 80%
- ‘Sudden death’ kicks 64.3%
- These results highlight the increasing pressure as the competition progresses and may also highlight the ‘best player should go first’ fallacy. The idea of ‘getting off to a good start’ by putting the best penalty taker first appears wrong as there is least pressure on this kick.
Of course this research falls flat if it was found that teams do put their best penalty taker first :)
Ronaldo took the last one in 2006 as well
Haha was just going to say that, you've pointed out exactly why it falls flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Just to clarify, meant the first miss of the shoot-out, not necessarily the first kick.
And how up-to-date are those stats? And what 'Finals'?
So 6years out-of-date then.
Jordet, G., Hartman, E., Visscher, C. and Lemmink, K. A. P. M. (2006) Kicks from the penalty mark in soccer: The roles of stress, skill, and fatigue for kick outcomes. Journal of Sports Sciences, 1-9,
'penalty shoot-outs in the World Cup (WC), European Championships (EC) and the Copa America (CA).'
'The percentage success rate in the World Cup is 71.2% compared to 82.7% (CA) and 84.6% (EC), possibly reflecting the greater importance and consequent pressure of the world stage. The success rate of each penalty kick changes throughout the competition:'