shay wouldnt just assume it was going wide. that header was only from a few yards out and shay had no chance imoQuote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
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shay wouldnt just assume it was going wide. that header was only from a few yards out and shay had no chance imoQuote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
I hear the header took a deflection (off Barry?).
It did look like he gestured "wide" and then reacted a bit late.
It got a deflection.
Still it looked as if Shay was just shepherding, expecting the ball to go wide.
The moment it left Fletchers head it was going wide but got a nick off Barry. He did react but just too late. When i say too late i'm talking 100th of a second too late. Thats how quick it was. Thats just the way it is sometimes. Very unlucky i would say and definately not an error on Givens part. He was very good yesterday albeit conceding 4 goals. Would love to see him playing CL football before his career finishes. He deserves it
The least he deserves!!! he's the reason the national team hasn't got rightly thumped by sides during stauntons reign in my opinion. it could have been a whole lot worse for the confidence of irish football had he not been there. you never know, the way things are shaping up he may get another world cup finals appearance!!! if thierry henry turns around a few years ago and says, it takes something special to beat shay given its saying an awful lot. its a pity he was so loyal to newcastle, he may end up with no medal but he'll still have gained more respect than a lot of goalkeepers who have world cups and champions league or even premiership medals.
fabien barthez springs to mind.
Given Almunia's shaky start to the season I wonder is Wenger regretting not forking out the £ 6 million it'd have taken. It's nice to hear UK pundits saying that despite the star signings, maybe Shay Given is proving to be the smartest.
Good peno save there from Given.
Still our most important player - just saved a penalty at Birmingham. He's kept City in the game more than once today.
Good save, probably MH's best signing for City. He may yet prove the difference for us in the playoffs!!
Fahey on as well now, good to see him back.
3 great saves in the first half not incl. the pen. Listened to 2nd half on radio and it sounded as if he'd get MOTM
That would be the full-back Fahey? (thanks Mr. Dunphy ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Yet he didn't get any of the bonus points on fantasy premierleague. Madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Of course not. Barry Ferguson(3), Bellamy(2) and Johnson were obviously the stand out players:D. I wonder how they select those things sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave
Given deservedly got the Man Of The Match at the end of the game. As mentioned before, Hughes's best signing.
How Wenger at Arsenal did not sign Given is a mystery to me. Arsenal have been crying out for a consistently good goal keeper for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Is that the same as the The Telegraph one? I thought they dont have all the points sorted until Mon/Tues? How do you know he wasnt awarded the bonus ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave
hes the keeper in my team anyway he got 12 points:Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
90 mins = 2
clean sheet = 4
peno save = 5
3 saves = 1
no bonus??:confused:
Right cheers for that. He got 14pts in the Telegraph Ive just checked - no idea what the breakdown of that is - first year doing it for ages and Ive lost touch with what you get points awarded/deducted for - though Id imagine its similar to what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Back on topic - please god he keeps this form up!!!!! Citys first clean sheet for a while largely down to Shay.
yea shay could be the diffrence between us making it or not. i have one gripe with him that he doesnt come for crosses enough or am i the only one who notices this? he doesnt get picked up on it becaus he always gets the easy ones he goes for bt he leaves the team under pressure sometimes by not coming out and claiming the ball with authority? brilliant shot stopper thouQuote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Yes hazelnutbrummie he is a bit small but given his gaelic background i would have thought he would have been a lot more comfortable coming for crosses. In fact looking back at the nerve wracking 1-0 leads we have had down through the years when we have been under pressure, he comes out less and less towards teh end of the game. Its the one facet of his game I would like to see him improve however at this stage in his career I dont think he will.
He is almost too honest i think, if he went for the ball and fell over if he wasn't giong to make it by colliding with a player he would get a free out, but thats not shay.
I think shay is a confidence player too, hence why he doesn't come out for the ball. Hughes gave him a big boost before kick off in front of his team-mates and look at the performance he turned in, he obviouslly needs morale-boosting speeches every now and again, hopefully trap has noted this and will do the same.
He came for a high ball late on against Cyprus at home and collected it cleanly despite Richard Dunne's best efforts to bash into him! You can only come and claim balls into the box if they're actually played into the box. I haven't really noticed Shay staying put when he possibly could have come to collect. But you're right in the sense that he's more of a 6 yard box keeper for high balls than a guy who'll typically come further out.
Peno save today (I believe his second of the year, not sure) :D
yeah, at least his second. He saved one against Birmingham I think.
I think penalties were a genuine weakness in his game (was it Owls Fan ran a thread on it a few years ago) but he seems to be increasing his percentages recently. Frustrating given how close we were to a crucial shoot-out.
yep until a few years ago(maby his last with newcastle) he hadn't saved a penalty since mendieta scored against him in 02.
For his club maybe but don't forget Cyprus.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
He had a great game, him or De Jong for man of the match I'd say. At the moment I'd say he is the best in the world, ahead of Buffon, Casillas and Van der Saar. He seems physically fit and he can hopefully last through to 2014, 2012 should be no problem anyway.
well in fairness he's the best in the world in the football we're most familar with. like van der saar wouldnt even be near the top 15, let alone world best.
I dont rate Van Der Saar (currently) as a great keeper either, but he is branded around a lot by the popular press. There is a paucity of world class keepers at the moment. Buffon has a dodgy back and cannot manage a full season for Juve these days. Casillas has potential but is still a bit error prone (same for Valdez and Reina), Julio Cesar is a decent shot stopper but not much else. I follow Russian football a lot, and I have to say Akinfeev is very inconsistant too. Given is the only keeper I would select at the drop of a hat for a world XI.
Lloris has looked very impressive for France (against Ireland) and Lyon in the Champs Lge.
Hummm maybe but I've seen him caught out of position a few times for Lyon in the Champions League and he was horribly exposed in Belgrade this autumn.
im not necessarily touting him as the best in the world or better than given but he deserves a mention with the players youve profiled.
Absolutelyu. Henry handball & two deflections aside, Lloris was the difference between the two teams. 22 years old: big future ahraed of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Guys why is SI not in the lineup?
Whatever about his standing in the game worldwide, for me he's certainly the best goalkeeper in the Premiership!
Another superb performance today - as we've come to expect.
Two possible answers (NO CAN OF WORMS PLEASE!) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
1.) Who cares?
2.) Try World Football :p
By the way I noticed that your namesake conveniently picked up an injury for the second straight time the day of a game against the Blackhawks. Can't blame him for being scared.
Anyway, in terms of keepers, I'd say Rustu of Turkey is still up there. He made some bad gaffes against Galatasaray earlier this year after a spell out injured (September or October) but since then has let in only 1 goal (a penalty) for Besiktas and that includes games in the CL at Old Trafford and against Wolfsburg. Given was one of the best keepers in the EPL even when he had Newcastle's defenders in front of him.
i figured since it was a MaD City day for the MaN City keeper i could sneak in a question without jumping through hoops. World football does not apply as he is still Irish and this is an Irish football forum, like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
As for Sid, well, Marrianne Hossa may break a nail tonight but he hasnt broken at least one thing that comes annualy to him lately: Costing his team the Stanley Cup.
I won't comment on the first paragraph as I really don't want to open the can of worms. As for the second paragraph, well, I can just assume you're not very happy right now (to be honest I'm not a huge Hossa fan but he's a Hawk so I'll support him). :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
lads on rte said knee injury (?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
When is Given gonna come out and demand that Chelsea get a replay?? Richards handled the ball before Adebayor scored.
Another useful contribution from our WUM friend.
Given wins player of the month for November at City: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news...he-Month-Award