If you call what treatment Cork, Derry and Rovers received 'punishment', then they need to re-define that word in the dictionary. Cork promoted after 2 years, Derry & Rovers after 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
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If you call what treatment Cork, Derry and Rovers received 'punishment', then they need to re-define that word in the dictionary. Cork promoted after 2 years, Derry & Rovers after 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
you forget that what you are going through right now is exactly what City went through 2 years ago - we were fighting tooth and nail to find any way to keep our club afloat
i still remember how it felt when i heard CCIFL wasn't getting a license
Yes but the licence for Foras wasn't thrown out, ours has.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
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Originally Posted by gufc2000
Ye spent a lot of time moaning about 3 teams from Galway being a joke then ye put a licence application in late what were ye expecting would happen?
The FORAS situation is similar is a few ways but completely different in others. FORAS were given an opportunity to keep their club alive. GUST weren't. FAI wouldnt even look at the application, citing the application having been 8 days late as the crime GUST committed. This could have been used against you and Derry, but it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Disgusting.
Edit: I'm not having a go at Cork or Derry either, I'm delighted for the fans of Cork City and good luck to them.
Look, as I've said before, the FAI have shifted the goalposts. If other clubs had been accommodated then I don't see why GUST should be ignored. If the FAI see Salthill and Mervue as the flagship teams from Galway and as the way forward, then that's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
All GUST wanted was the chance to continue the long tradition of Galway Utd. Unlike Foras, GUST had experience of running a club for a season and a half. €107,000 raised through fundraisers last year alone to keep the show on the road.
no it couldnt, not against us. our application was in well before the deadline - we always knew that dealing with TNB would be difficult and that it was unlikely the FAI would give him a license so we submitted a back up application and told the FAI we only wanted to be considered if CCIFL didn't get a licenseQuote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan
The Trust keep bringing up this 107k raised which is great but how much of a debt did they run up last year? Ive heard it was big enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
well wait the year then.........cause a merger is doomed for all parties imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
If it meant we'd get in for 2013, I'd happily do soQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I don't remember where I was concerned with or mentioned punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
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Originally Posted by Sean South
. The 107k extra was put in to ensure the club fulfilled its fixtures and came from Maroon army, Table quizzes, golf classics, concerts and lotto. Galway United FC Ltd owes the 34k left over at the end of the year not GUST .
GUST have said if allowed to participate in the licence process for 2012 it would clear that 34k by selling season tickets I cant blame the powers that be, or other local clubs it was the club that went rotten but GUST aint going away
People should have never been accommodated if they were i know Cork were not and im not sure with Derry.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
Id have a bigger problem if they continued to ignore rules and deadlines to suit teams then what is the point in having them? Its unfortunate for ye that it has happened but it can only be a good thing for the league if the FAI finally start sticking to these deadlines and rules. This thing with fixtures and teams being announced in February is ridiculous and it could be helped by people actually being forced to stick to the deadlines.
To say that they moved deadlines for others is no excuse, to keep questioning the FAI on 3 teams in Galway being allowed and then putting an application in late is ridiculously stupid are ye new to this league that ye didnt understand what would happen if ye crossed the FAI? As soon as ye annoyed them they were gonna look for a chance to screw ye giving the application in late gave them an excuse.
Weren't the FAI accommodating of Limerick 37 years back? From the bits I've been reading and being very well a complete outsider on everything regards Galway and all that's gone on, I think the best option seems to be linking up with Salthill. SD Galway United, mentioned in some article being along the lines of PSG, seems a good move. Of Salthill and Mervue, Salthill would seem to possibly have more to gain. However it goes, I hope it works out.
Being honest i cant remember if we missed deadlines or not and if we didnt meet deadlines then we would fall into what i said about no-one should be accommodated. I cant see the point in having deadlines if people can just miss them and have no penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Thats not even the main point of what i was saying though im talking about the fact that Galway were on the FAIs case about having 3 teams in Galway and then handed them a perfect opportunity to punish them for it....Most people involved in LOI know that the FAI are a bitter bunch after Limerick had annoyed them i know that we have to be very careful to make sure everything with our applications are perfect so they cant screw us....Im sure if we ha gave an application in late we would have been denied.
Anyone know why the application from Galway was late btw?
I've asked three or four times now but somebody, anybody, who knows what they are talking about, come on and break this down roughly for me. That's a very, very, impressive figure, I know people who'd be interested in discussing it further......Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer
On the licence, I'm certain there's no Galway fans actually clueless enough to genuinely believe the eight days is the reason. An excuse yes, but the reason?? Yawn tbh....
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Originally Posted by Lim till i die
well there was the items above, i remember one individual who gave over 900 euro at the mons replay in monaghan, a number of 18 individuals many from the mgmt committee put in 4 figure sums oh and i forgot the flag day. It was presented at the agm of GUST and its members in monroes
also its becoming clear that the 8 day is a bit of a any old excuse will keep them lads quiet, You seem to be getting to the nub of the issue there now alright
Sexual diseases Galway or Galway S & M are a bit dodgy reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
If rumours are to be believed, i was told at a training course on Friday that the first division will consist of only 8 teams for the 2012 season? In 2013 the premier league will be a 16 team league(no relegation and top 4 teams from the first division promoted) with the first division being replaced by local senior leagues (MSL, LSL, USL and an all new CSL). The winners of these leagues will all go into a 4 team playoff with the winners replacing the relegated team from the premier league.
But as of now, there only are 8 teams in the First Division, so there would have been no point inviting the others into the licensing process? Also, can't imagine teams being prepared to drop into the junior and intermediate leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
yes culloty82, BUT, that's if all the teams that took part in last seasons first division all get licences themselves.
of talk friday that Carlow had indicated they were pulling out as the €180k cost of running the team to finish last was hard to put together. I dont know if its true but Tralee were working off a budget of 100k which is not half enough just to get through a season. Cobh have their own issues, GUST are hitting a brick wall despite having sponsors lined up for 90k and they put in 107k last season alone excluding gate income and season ticket & other match night income which would be a lot more than most considering the built up fanbase. Wexford look to be gearing up for the season comfortably enough though there are worries in relation to their ability to stay the seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Its looking like an 8 team league with 4 playing for a major prize, premier the season after in a 16team league
Galway maybe have raised 107k last year but thats because they feared they would lose their club - you can't keep doing that. Cork CIty and Drogheda both raised thousands of euro when in examinership but the same groups struggle to raise similar amounts when there isnt a crisis
A merger of the First Division and the old A Championship, minus the obligation of Premier clubs to field an A side, is more plausible than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
When the Premier of 12 was agreed late last year, the under standing is other formats were rejected. What's the point in the current process if the first division is only going to press ahead with 8 clubs?
The idea of regionalising the first division and even a mix of the first and A championship was supposed to have been put to clubs and rejected as well. If they didn't agree with that, I definitely can't see them agreeing to drop into intermediate leagues.
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Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Absolutely right there, the committee as well have said themselves they couldnt go on giving like last season so therefor the budget submitted for GUST fundraising activities alone for 2012 presented to the FAI had that down to 50k for prudent reasons and on advice from the experiences of Cork and Shams supporters.
An eight team 1st division is nuts but then again who is surprised .
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Originally Posted by Terry
Id suspect that this is complete bull somehow.
There are 8 teams there already and from what i hear its very likely that Tralee and Cobh are in so so we would have to lose teams that were there last season.
Unlesss Mervue and Salthill are so devastated at the loss of GUFC that they pull out i cant see who it would be.
If that's right and there's truth Fanad and Carlow are possibly out, it would seem the first division might be returning to being a 10 team division and the LoI remain as having 22 clubs altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Are there many current premier or first division clubs that will look to have reserve teams? Limerick and Finn Harps have generally been good at having a reserve ( A side) as well.
Dont think we will now that the A Championship is gone they have nowhere to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
When the A Championship was scrapped, there was talk that a specific Reserve League was being set up for the B teams, but that may have fallen by the wayside since.
The A Championship being scrapped should not spell the end of reserve teams. It should be the clubs with the assistance of the FAI to find a workable solution. Limerick, Cork and/or Waterford should open dialogue on forming some sort of a reserve league. You'd be looking for the support of a Tullamore or some club who'd want to be playing at bit more of a national level, which is where the FAI would want to come in to give such a league the same status the A Championship had.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
A reserve league should be workable in the northern half of the country as well. Derry, Finn Harps and Sligo? If clubs like Fanad and Castlebar got behind it with the FAI again rowing in in some capacity, it's a possible working solution. The northern and sourthern sections of the U19 league have run smoothly so far.
Maybe Cork and Derry had it in on time?Quote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan
The FORAS application was definitely in on time, it was lodged around the same time as the one by the club in case the latter didn't succeed. So I don't know why Galway fans are drawing a parallel there.
The Derry application however was apparently late and was accepted, so I think it's fair to say it is a copout by the FAI in this case because they simply didn't want to allow GUST in as a 3rd club in Galway.
Cork one wasn't late but Derry one was. And the limerick 37 one was late by 15 days. The first division will be 8 teams and salthill will be playing in terryland . Job done Galway soccer consigned to the bin. All we ever asked for was fair play but we have been played by the mandarins who should hang their head in shame.
The truth will out on Tuesday night in the claddagh hall 35 yrs history thrown in the bin for what ?
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Originally Posted by gufct
Who are gone so because ive been told again that Cobh and Tralee are looking good and have received no indication from the FAI that they will not be allowed in by one lad involved with Cobh and one involved in Tralee. Has this 8 teams thing been made up off the top of someones head?
Word on the street is theres a 24 team Premier division for 2013-2014 running over 2 years with every team playing each other 4 times. 6 teams from Galway have been invited to make up numbers but GUST still won't be allowed in.
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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Sounds reasonable.
Makes more sense than some of the stuff that happens in this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
It looks like 8 team first div is true and teams are going to be - Athlone, Harps, Limerick, Longford, Mervue, SD Galway, Waterford and Wexford.
Salthill look like the will dig the Fai out of a hole by playing in terrlyland and changing their home Jersey to Maroon.
Where are people getting this from? Theres been no official notice from the FAI.