Armenia have to play Macedonia, who the drew 2-2 with at home.
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Armenia have to play Macedonia, who the drew 2-2 with at home.
FYP for youQuote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
4-0 now cripes
4-0 unbelievable
Slovakia are made for Armenia to beat. The chess game was over run. Hammered them at home and now hammered them away. Slovakia will be a completely different proposition against Russia.
Hey be good if Slovakia beat Russia now!!
4-0
Unbelievable!!
4 nil who will have believed it!
Hilarious and great to see. Armenia play good football.
its 4 !
Doesn't really matter now though does it? We need a miricle to catch Russia and Armenia have to be the big threat to second!Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
There is a catch 22 coming up here. A Slovakian win against Russia will mean that if we dont win at home to Armenia then we risk losing all. The good side of a Slovakian win is that it gives us a chance to win the group.
I had mentioned that Armenia had some good results and had the best goals scored (even better now)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fester
but I never expected this.
Wow game over!! 4-0.
Play offs at least pretty much certain now.
Ahem...Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
I love the optimism.Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
Its in our own hands now - that has to be good news.
Surreal stuff. Kardashians dancing in the streets. Not a bad day for Ireland.
It's a complicated business these groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
We need Slovakia to do what they have already done and beat Russia again. This time at home. And I bet Armenia won't beat Macedonia. Both teams play the exact same way and I would predict a draw in that game. Slovakia beat Russia and we win our last two games then we go through as automatic group winners. Weiss and his team will get slaughtered by the Slovakian press and fans. But as in the World Cup on their day they can beat the so called big teams. They can still qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
Beat Andorra and another glorious 0-0 against Armenia should do it, no?
1 Russia 8 2 1 1 3 1 0 5 2 1 10 4 6 17
2 Rep of Ird 8 2 1 1 2 2 0 4 3 1 11 6 5 15
3 Armenia 8 2 1 1 2 1 1 4 2 2 17 7 10 14
4 Slovakia 8 2 1 1 2 1 1 4 2 2 6 8 -2 14
5 FYROM 8 1 1 2 1 0 3 2 1 5 6 9 -3 7
6 Andorra 8 0 0 4 0 0 4 0 0 8 1 17 -16 0
Ideal results for us in next round, we beat Andorra, Slovakia beat Russia, Armenia draw/lose to Macedonia
This would leave:
Ireland 18
Russia 17
Slovakia 17
Armenia 15
Crazy result but i'll take it.
No if Slovakia beat Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
Look lets face it, what would we prefer a playoff against some other team (likely strong) that has finished second or a home game against Armenia where a win would mean we qualify automatically.
The Trap has more lives than a cat!
We continue to play they way we played in our last two games and we will get beaten by Armenia. They will have no problem playing around Whelan and Andrews. No chance of a 0-0 in that game. Trapatonni has to cop himself on and quickly. We could end up blowing a great chance to either win the group or at worst a play off if we continue with the two we have in midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
Who would you play instead of them?
If we win our last 2 games but still finish behind Russia we could still have a chance at best 2nd place, no?
That looks like a hell of a point we picked up in Moscow nowQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
i cant believe that Slovakia lost 4 - 0. I expected them to be 2nd or there abouts.
Two wins for us and a combination of other results to top the group. A win and a draw for 2nd spot, would that be right ?
never thought id be jumping around shouting armenia, unbelievable. we could jam our way into these finals. its karma swinging back our way after henry hand 2 years ago.
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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
No a win and a draw for us couple with two Slovakia wins would mean we lose out entirely.
He has to give McCarthy a chance against Andorra. Andrews and Whelan are offering less and less to the team IMO. He had McCarthy as sub today so he must see something in him to have him on the bench. Andorra would be the erfect game for McCarthy to get his first competitve start. If Gibson and Fahey are fit I would put both ahead of Whelan and Andrews. Not by a huge amount but they offer the team something more/different. they can both get on the ball and move the play along.Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
err........... I would rather rely on Armenia getting a result - lol.
Simply put, just win the last two games and we're guaranteed a second place at least. If Russia loses against Slovakia, we win the group.
i think fahey dererves to be first choice on merit, and his inclusion could bring the whole team together, i also agree mccarthy should get a chance against andorra, and sure why not robbie brady as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Certainly does, I don't think we could have hoped for anything more, I was prepared for a defeat to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
October 7th and 11th will decide it once and for all.
Armenia have grown and grown with this group, they may legitimately be better than us now and beat us at home. That'd be my fear.
Fahey should be back by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
Fahey can only play for us in a 3-man midfield - however exposed Whelan and Andrews leave us in there, Fahey is less physically strong and would be passed around even more. I think there's a serious case for making a few promotions from the U21s now - Brady, Clifford, McCarthy and Meyler certainly. If not now, before the next campaign begins.Quote:
Originally Posted by the bear
Craziest group Ireland have ever been in. But on current form, we're most probably the fourth best team (or third worst) in this group.