RTE is a joke if that clown can get any air time.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
It was priceless when he shouted across at Dunphy about how a lot of men would like to be sitting this close to him while he proceeded to punch his hand.
RTE is a joke if that clown can get any air time.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
It was priceless when he shouted across at Dunphy about how a lot of men would like to be sitting this close to him while he proceeded to punch his hand.
If I'm right Prime time is kept on the RTE website in realplayer thingy form? Got to check this amadan out. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Footie_Fan
I'm not sure if it is on website but if it is it's well worth watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
It's on here
http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0413/primetime.html
I refer you to my later post: http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=115003&postcount=24Quote:
Originally Posted by Footie_Fan
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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
coaching badge eh, there are a lot of coachs with those, does it make them any good at the job....no...
example, denis (spelled wrong i think before you pull me up on it ) wise, no qualifications and in the fa cup final, where are all the qualified coaches......
tony adams, badges, degrees etc......how is he doing in his first job....
we have a former el player and a former el manager in the top international set up, thats good enough for me......
to sum it up, coaching badge my arse....
end of late night rant, except to say i voted yes...
oh and paddy will you p1ss off with this grammer and spelling ****, i can't spell and never have been able to and these days grammer is not thaught ( spelled wrong again ) in irish schools so you don't know what you've never been shown, so knock it off..... :mad:
well now we have a former el manager and player at the top of the international set up and so it should be......
emotions are mixed at the mo, but i just can't help wondering what would be the reaction if he scored the winner against france in paris in sept.......we are fickle humans and it doesn't take much to sway our thoughts, look at who is in government for the proof.......
think he should have stayed away and voted no.but when he pulls back on the green jersey all bets are off and wouldnt dream of booing him.he has certainly lost a lot of credibility in most peoples eyes and would appear to have gone "cap in hand" to kerr.
my advice for what its worth:take him back into the team but the" hero" bit is over.from now on (when selected he is treated as an ordinary player) by both officials and the crowd at matches ,clap when he does anything good but leave out"KEANO KEANO".
Am I the only one who is 50/50 on this?? I always respected Keane, but after the Japan ****e I have lost alot of respect, at the same time we could do with a leader in the middle, so if you look at it from a point of strenghtening the team on the whole it has to be good, I think we benefit from the return more than him more so from the qualifying point of view....
Coaching badges may not a good manager make, but it qualifies me to talk about football. If you'd have read Carnstien's attack on me, then you'd have seen why I mentioned it. And it's not something I've referred to before here, as I've not felt the need until now.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
Load of shoite. Have you ever had an enquiring mind, Max? Chances are you have on at least something, and you've gone off and found out about it all by yourself. Were you taught how to use the internet in minute detail, or did you learn this by trial and error? Exactly. You'd still be waiting if you were sitting around for someone to teach you...Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
In summary, I must ask - was my argument with you, Max? No. Then it's you that should take a hike. Unless you're Carnstien in disguise, that is... :rolleyes: Eejit.
;) PP
Rubbish. It should be the best candidates for each respective job, no matter where they or their roots hail from.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
As if to prove it's not personal (see my response to you elsewhere), I agree with you fully on this. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as the saying has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
:) PP
Just watched Primetime on the RTE website never seen anything as funny, "Dangerous," classic quote from the I'm wearing my best cardigan pundit. Dunphy was a bit of a hypocrite in stating that Byrne wrote Charltons biography, hes not exactly impartial himself. As ever with RTE it starts off sensible then descends into a farce, you gotta love Irish TV.
Followed by a Lovely Girls Competition.
Sure I've seen that cardigan before in a well known 70's show with two guys and a red car ;)
paddy i have a problem with spelling and so have a lot of others so i think you were out of order bringing it up, its sad really that that was the only way you could move forward the debate....i have a driving licence, does that make me qualified to talk about f1 as well ???
I'm disappointed. Tune into Ormeau Avenue for the sports news, as BT15's finest secure Premier League football for another season.
But all they're talking about is some reformed drunkard from Altrincham getting a part-time job :confused:
Many of us are 49/51: That 2% entailing the foaming of our mouths. There are some things you'd love to be right about. In this case I hope I'm wrong: It will only end in tears of joy. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanieBoy
Did you see him do the FA Cup draw recently? Looked like Tony Soprano :)
Sorry, as you were. I'm neutral really. Look forward to reports back of Bydgoszcz banter...
Fine. Point taken. I lashed out at Carnstien on all fronts because s/he, as always, started to make it personal. However inadvertently, I crossed a line and for that I apologise.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
:) PP
no bother paddy, only negative thing about roy is that he's fan of a certain scotish team
I supported the team when mick mc carthy even though i did not agree wth his treatment of paul mc grath and denis irwin or his tactics. I supported the team through tick and thin regardless of what player was playing etc. I will be supporting the team with or without Roy keane. But with Roy keane back in the team we are more likely to be more successful which is the object of football.
Lets list who are in favour of this
Brian Kerr
Fran Rooney
Kevin Moran
Ray Houghton
Mark Lawrenson
Frank Stapleton
Damien Duff
Kenny Cunningham
Robbie Keane,
John O Shea
Liam Miller
Jason Mc Ateer
Niall Quinn
I cant list one person who is involved in irish football at any sort of high level that is against this idea. I think the list above is a good cross section of irish past and present. The only people who seem to be against it are people who have the idea of irish nationality which is , if i dont agree with it its not irish. Regardless of what you think of Roy Keane you should give Brian Kerr the full backing for welcoming him back and letting him into the squad. If he can do it why can you. Or are you all more informed than him on Irish football.
one of the mopst sensible posts yet on this topic
easy now... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
:D PP
DavrosI was there that day ...I don't remember him being booed.....can't have been to many...I heard alot of cheering to be honest...and thats not selective hearing ..I just didn't hear it...i did hear the Bertie Boos though....I don't like bertie but was disgusted by itQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
Drinking Indcidents ok let me deal with that ponit, Paul Mc Grath missed matches due to alchol abuse, yet people love him. I am one of those that think he is great but you can have a go at keane for drinking and support Mc Grath or basically any player that played for Ireland in the last 25 years they all liked a drink and some had or have problems with it, None of our business really and some like Paul Mc Grath have a disease so who are we to judge on that.
"he walked out on the team". Well i do not agree with his initial threat to going home but in the cold light of day he did say he woudl stay. This showed i suppose that he was prepared to put his country before himself as he regretted probably threatening to go home. HOwever Mick Mc Carthy was not happy at that and decided to call a meeting where he basically riled keane into reacting. What person woudl not react to be been told you let your country down and you faked injury. i.e. Iran game, even though keane, mc carthy and ferguson had agreed that due to keanes injury he woudl not travel to iran if the result was pretty safe. If mc carthy had reservations about that why did he not say it then rather than in a heated row which he instigated.
Thirdly "he faked injury". Well i dont remember keane ever faking injury for competitive matches and i dont believe he has ever faked injury for ireland. I think he may have decided some times that it was not worth the risk to go over for a friendly match as he may aggravated his knee etc. Apoligies for the rot in hell remark it was not serious, but dont worry i can be level headed and put forward logical arguments. And thanks for the compliment from max there too.
Roger Milla (41 in Italia 90 )Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
Originally Posted by davros
Incidentally,the ONLY person to be booed(apart from a few people moaning @ Bertie's "jokes"),@ the opening of last year's Special Olympics......was a certain R.M.K............................................. ...........
As one unKind individual suggested.....he should have been a participant,with his lack of scruples.However,this would have been unkind to the other handicapped competitors....
Conor 74 i dont see you having a go at nonsensical remarks like this. YOu should not just have a go at pro-keane remarks and leave the anti keane ones go with out comment. If you main argument is for sensible debate it shoudl be across the board. And the above quote is probably one of the most offensive one could issue on this debate which after all is only about football and is not life and death here.
We should all just watch Primetime again and laugh.
I'll try and do as sensible a pro-keane post as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
1. He will strengthen the squad. He's one of the few players we have that will handle a French midfield to start with, he's played against the likes of Zidane more than any other irish player and has been on winning teams against them. The reason Man Utd fans come out in favour is bias, but also week in week out, they see how he helps to progress the younger players around him, players like Liam Miller and Andy Reid have already comeout in favour of his return, they know he'll help them along to become better. Like it or not, he never, ever gave less than his all while wearing an Irish shirt.
2. I think it would probably help 'the healing' if he issued a statement saying he regretted the Saipan affair, but has McCarthy apologised for his part in it? (and they were both in it, as I've said before i still wish some senior member of the squad had the balls to knock there heads together and tell them to cop on and save it for four weeks).
As for the injury 'faking' that brendy_eire has been hinting at, he's nothing to apologise for. He still doesn't play two games in a week for united. His hip was and is dodgy, but he's come through it to a degree and has recovered a bit of form, He's not the player he was before the WC, but he's still the best CM who we have available.
3. This I can't convince you on. Everybody has their own idea where the right and wrong lies in this argument. There are merits to both sides of the argument, McCarthy shouldn't have confronted him in front of the team, bad man-management, Keane shouldn't have reacted the way he did, both should have been big enough to put it aside for four weeks.
In the end, if Keane was coming back from a long lay-off through injury, I think we'd all be admitting that he'd be a positive addition to the squad. It's personal feelings that prevent people from recognising that it's good news for our chances of qualifying for the 2006WC.
I'd be totally against taking the captaincy from Cunningham though.
Yes. We'll be a stronger team with him present.
You're full of sh*it . I can only presume that you have seen all of RMK's medical files or physio reports since you are so sure that he lied to the nation of Ireland about the state of his injuries . Sure maybe he just missed soem of Utd's matches for the craic like. G*bsh*t .Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Yeah! I'm in love with that babe that had the misfortune to babysit those three eejits. 'Dangerous...civil war...referendum...(punches palm).' :DQuote:
Originally Posted by petef
That wasn't a point about Roy at all I was just pointing out the comedy that was primetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
You can addQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Graham Kavanagh
Chris Hughton
They were both on Newstalk supporting the decision.
Pogsly banned and IP blocked. NeilMcD and Conor74, drop the "rubbish" and "nonsensical" remarks. If ye can't debate politely either take it to PM or píss off somewhere else.
adam
well I though conor was debating politely to be fair to him, i just pointed out that if he is calling for good polite articulate debate from pro keane he should be calling for the same for pro keane. BUt to be fair to him he is not said anything offensive.
Conor, if you don't like the rules, take yourself off somewhere else. I'm tired of your fight teh poweh routine.
adam
I also remember being delighted that he was available for the first game after having been out injured for the previous four weeks and not playing for United. He wasn't faking Conor, he came back early, Fergie didn't want him to play in either International game and could legitimately have refused to release him, hence the deal that was struck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
The thing is, no-one in the country expressed any anger at this (or even doubted the injury) until after McCarthy accused him of faking (even though he was well aware of the real story) and that's what set Roy off on his rant.
Fergie seems to think Keano will only be playing in the big competative games.
I can't see Keane going to Poland this month with Man U still in the FA Cup but i reckon he'll play against Romania at LR next month.
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/New...809420,00.html
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Originally Posted by davros
that leaves you in the 1% so D, yeah? ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
Yeah to be fair to conor he has posted sensible comments and my only gripe with him was his consistency to carry over to the pro keane comments. I think conor you should come out and say more that "come on davros" as his comments were totally non-sensical. LIke which ireland supporters are only here for the craic and the drink. There have been some over the top posts and I think the one about handicapped people has to be the most offensive and i think that should be dealt with first and foremost rather than going for conor who is contribuing to the debate with positive comments.