Boylesports Sponsorship

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Following the acquisition of a new sponsor, posters have been speculating on what name the new League might have. A couple or three have suggested names which are imo inappropriate, since they presume the right to use another organisation's titles, in a way which is misleading, confusing and disrespectful (as well as legally questionable).
That is the point I am seeking to make ("achieve")

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You should be able to realise when people are taking the mick.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

In this entire thread, I have resorted to Wiki twice (#34 and #69), citing the complete source exactly as you suggest in #69.
In both cases, my contribution/excerpt was a mere 4 lines long.
I have only used Google to navigate quickly to other reference sites (e.g. www.fai.ie or www.irishfa.com)

Please tell me where in this thread you think I have been "persistantly" [sic] quoting wiki or google. Or in which posts I have quoted more than a paragraph, or required readers to "skim waffle" etc. :rolleyes:

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When you copy and paste from somewhere else you don't use your little winks such as :rolleyes: and ;). When do come along with something that's "original" you always add your winks as if to give yourself a pat on the back.

"Legally Questionable", Peas-and-Rice man it's an internet forum what was just discussing the merits of a new sponsorship deal for the league. It wasn't a cue to run to defend the virtue of Northern Irish Football. A serious lack of humour is on display here.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

You should be able to realise when people are taking the mick.

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Galway Hoop, for example, was one of those who made such suggestions and he was most certainly serious.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

When you copy and paste from somewhere else you don't use your little winks such as :rolleyes: and ;). When do come along with something that's "original" you always add your winks as if to give yourself a pat on the back.

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Really? Give me one example from this thread, then. It should be easy enough; after all, you accused me of doing so "persistantly" in your last post...:rolleyes:

P.S. Still waiting on some examples of "waffle" from my posts, or cases where I failed merely to quote the opening para from wiki etc, then left the link, for readers to browse for themselves.

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Originally Posted by amaccann

"Legally Questionable", Peas-and-Rice man it's an internet forum what was just discussing the merits of a new sponsorship deal for the league. It wasn't a cue to run to defend the virtue of Northern Irish Football. A serious lack of humour is on display here.

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I merely pointed something out which was misplaced. No-one has been able to refute what I actually posted, yet few have been prepared to acknowledge that I might actually have a point.

Instead, a few individuals have resorted to "playing the man", rather than the "ball" (e.g. ifk101 accusing me of "persistant waffle", or abusing quoting conventions, or eelmonster spouting crap about bigotry etc)

I'm not angry, much less "outraged" (as one poster claimed), I'm merely irritated at having to defend myself from increasingly ad hominem replies to my posts, from people who fail to address the actual issues.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

P.S. Any idea which ROI fan used the term "Beggars" on this site a wee while back? I'll give you a clue:

Forum: Ireland 08/11/2007, 1:16 AM
Eligibility proposal
Posted By eelmonster
Vote early, vote often - beggars of the world...

Vote early, vote often - beggars of the world unite:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/default.stm

Ring any bells, EM? :rolleyes:

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In fact (as you well know), that's a response to the continued use of 'beggar', 'tarmacing' and variations thereon in a thread which highlighted the now deleted BBC poll on yourweecountry - your little rolling eyes icon couldn't detect the sarcasm, no?

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I like to think I'm reasonably well educated and literate, but I haven't got the faintest idea what you're referring to (in bold). Then again, I've never even read "Punch", even in the Doctor's Waiting Room (In fact, does it even exist?)

Afaik, the term "Beggars" was applied to the ROI team at (or maybe soon after?) Big Jack's time in charge, when by exploiting the Granny Rule to the full, the ROI was "begging" players from all over to play for them. (You know, "Beg, Steal or Borrow"?, that sort of thing)

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If you say so. It's commonly known in this part of Ireland that the term has been employed by sectarian xenophobes since, at least, the Catholic Relief Act of 1829 (I know Big Jack's been around a while, but surely not that long). Daniel O'Connell, who campaigned for the repeal of the remaining Penal Laws, was known variously as The Liberator, or The Emancipator or, in certain quarters, The King of the Beggars. As a matter of fact, the only time I've ever heard the term used outside of this context has been by Northern Ireland supporters describing (in this instance) the ROI.

Or are you suggesting that it's just the team and the FAI who are the target of the insult. In which case, you'll have no cause to complain when a section of the ROI support use similarly derogatory language to describe the NI team and the IFA, IIRC (and by IIRC, I mean I'm making this up), the use of such terminology only really came about after Big Billy (Billy Boys) Bingham encouraged his supporters at Windsor to sing "The Sash" with gusto in 1993. But who in their right mind (with the exception of some über-republican bigot's far right mind) would? However, and this is the bit I can't fathom, you and seemingly moderate NI supporters (even your Catholic mate) see nothing wrong with describing us (the team, our support, our country) as 'beggars'. I'm not even going to ask you to justify the 'tarmac' references.

Apologies to other posters for taking this way off topic. I'd be more than happy to continue this discussion by pm.

There's nothing to refute EG. The gospel of wikipedia has spoken.

This issue at hand is Boyle Sports sponsorship deal for League of Ireland football - please respect that. Your insistance on crusading the cause of NI football related matters is monotonous waffle.

As I pointed out to you any sponsor coming in will seek to maximise exposure for their brand name. So your prize asset of the name "Irish League" is not in danger.

I'm interested in knowing exactly the ins and outs of what the Boyle Sports sponsorship deal for League of Ireland football entails. That's what I was expecting to read about in a thread titled "Boylesports Sponsorship". I wasn't expecting to read wikipedia quotes about the Irish League.

Keep on topic.

Jesus wept. I cant believe ive just waded through the last 2 or 3 pages of knobrot! Its not going to happen. It won't be the Boylesports league of anything! It certainly wont be the Irish league in any form of naming either so why all the guff?

I can see us having 3 or 4 sponsors ala the champions league and that Gaelic thingy and not having a title sponsor at all next season.

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Originally Posted by Titan

Jesus wept. I cant believe ive just waded through the last 2 or 3 pages of knobrot!

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Excellent word. Completely apt too.

When I've time I'll remove all the guff, but for now, everyone just drop it

Anything non sponsor related gets binned...

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Originally Posted by ifk101

There's nothing to refute EG. The gospel of wikipedia has spoken.

This issue at hand is Boyle Sports sponsorship deal for League of Ireland football - please respect that. Your insistance on crusading the cause of NI football related matters is monotonous waffle.

Keep on topic.

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This is what you originally posted:
"As for you persistant quoting of wikipedia and google search results, maybe you could quote the opening sentence of the paragraph(s) you wish to highlight and add a link for the rest. It makes it easier for the reader to skim the waffle that way."
I asked you for some examples. You have failed to come up with any.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

P.S. Unless it is breaking some forum rule :confused:, I'll quote from Wiki if I consider it credibly backs up my case, thanks very much.

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Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Any dimwit can go on and change the text. Happened numerous times in the past and will continue to do so in the future. It isn't generally accepted as fact - especially on here.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

P.P.S. How did you know I was quoting from Wiki btw? Might it not be because you were also using it, too? ;)

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How did I know… I had a team of monkeys working around the clock on it!!
PS – Not being known for your sense of humour or ability to digest sarcasm I actually just read the following post from you:

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Read this:
"The IFA Premiership - formerly the Irish Premier League and before that the Irish Football League - and still known in popular parlance simply as the Irish League, is the national football league in Northern Ireland, and has historically been the league for the whole of Ireland. It should not be confused with the FAI League of Ireland, which is the league for the Republic of Ireland. At the end of the season, the champion club is presented with the Gibson Cup.
The Premiership is sponsored by JJB Sports and is marketed as the JJB Sports Premiership."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_League

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You might notice the link to a website called Wikipedia……….

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

P.P.P.S. At least they know how to spell "argument" on Wikipedia ;)

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You are really winning here son when you are finishing me off with the old slam dunk that is a spelling error……

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Any dimwit can go on and change the text. Happened numerous times in the past and will continue to do so in the future. It isn't generally accepted as fact - especially on here.


How did I know… I had a team of monkeys working around the clock on it!!
PS – Not being known for your sense of humour or ability to digest sarcasm I actually just read the following post from you:

You might notice the link to a website called Wikipedia……….


You are really winning here son when you are finishing me off with the old slam dunk that is a spelling error……

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I sometimes refer to Wiki, sometimes not. When I do, I sometimes use it, sometimes not. When I do use it, I cite it.

It is not always reliable, but it is not always unreliable. If, in my opinion, the latter applies, then I use it. Talking of which, would you actually like to dispute what I actually quoted from Wiki, or do you just prefer to make facetious remarks?

And when expressing an opinion, do you not use your own judgement as to its credibility and reliability etc? Or do you just leave that to your team of monkeys? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Or do you just leave that to your team of monkeys? :rolleyes:

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sometimes i use my monkeys, sometimes not, sometimes i trust them, sometimes not..... yawn.

so what do you think about boylesports becoming a sponsor of the league or as usual do you have no opinion but instead surf the various topics for one to try and bring off topic and around to some type of north/south debate???

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

sometimes i use my monkeys, sometimes not, sometimes i trust them, sometimes not..... yawn.

so what do you think about boylesports becoming a sponsor of the league or as usual do you have no opinion but instead surf the various topics for one to try and bring off topic and around to some type of north/south debate???

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Aside from my general reservation over associating football with gambling (e.g. i dislike that my own club Spurs, is sponsored by Mansion), I daresay it is a good thing.

But not being too familiar with the individual circumstances of Boylesports, LOI etc, I did not feel qualified to comment on this topic, so merely browsed.

Until you suggested some new names which were not yours/FAI's to use. Not only that, the fact that you could suggest them at all indicates either ignorance of the history of football throughout Ireland, or a blithe and disrespectful attitude to your footballing neighbours.

Whichever it is, I am entirely entitled to point this out. The fact that your only response has been to have a pop at me rather than my argument (and in a particularly facetious manner at that), merely vindicates me in the point I am making.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Until you suggested some new names blah blah some tripe, boring, boring, nosh, blah, .... etc etc.

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seriously pal, move along here. we had enough of you in previous threads and no-one is taking to your bait. find a singles website for the lonely and bitter or some such place for your ramblings.....

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

seriously pal, move along here. we had enough of you in previous threads and no-one is taking to your bait. find a singles website for the lonely and bitter or some such place for your ramblings.....

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The fact that you should redirect me to a section entitled "Irish League" is richly ironic - and clearly lost on you.

Ah well, I can no longer get irritated by someone who cannot be taken seriously any more. Thanks, gh, you've given me the best laugh I'll have all day! :D

AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

Wont someone please think of THE CHILDREEN and end this madness?