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01/08/2008, 11:40 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Who could they meet in the third round if they got through?

nobodies like AC milan, valencia and Sevilla
01/08/2008, 11:41 AM
Duggie

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I'm nowhere near as confident as you lot

well it gives pats the best oppurtunity of going through put it that way.
its up to them to give it a good go. capable of doing that i believe with fahey a big influence.
01/08/2008, 11:41 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Dodge

nobodies like AC milan, valencia and Sevilla

is it possble to meet anyone in the 3rd round/1st round proper?

Feck sure how is a team expected to get to the group stages so. PSG were prolly one of the weaker sides the time Derry got them.
01/08/2008, 11:43 AM
Duggie

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Originally Posted by Dodge

nobodies like AC milan, valencia and Sevilla

pffffftttt piece of pie
01/08/2008, 11:43 AM
kevincronin2000

just remember Cirk City beat sweedish opposition at this stage of the competion a few seasons back to play Slavia Prague in the first round propper of the uefa cup..

.. Belive

Cork City have beatem Malmo and Djurgardens and Derry knocked out IFK so nothing to fear what so ever.
01/08/2008, 12:10 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I'm nowhere near as confident as you lot

Agreed. Half way through their season and they've conceded five goals. Tough tough game (and not a big draw either). Still the best tie out of the five. A draw at home is probably the best to be hoped for.

Edit - forgot they're the side Bohs "should" have faced in the Totototo final. Adds a bit of interest.
01/08/2008, 12:21 PM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Absolutely shocking result...and to think Cork fans mocked Longford for their disaster in Wales:eek:

they have got their comeuppance at long last.. now its cork city turn!the baton has bein passed on from us..:)
01/08/2008, 12:30 PM
gspain

Queen of the South were the ideal draw but they ended up in a different section. Elfsborg will be favourites and will be very tough however Pats have a good chance..
01/08/2008, 12:35 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I'm nowhere near as confident as you lot

Remember there's an inverse experience curve operating in this thread.

Those who have feck all experience of European football know the most simply by looking at statistically insignificant datapoints in a 5 year rolling average coefficient....
01/08/2008, 1:09 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by adamcarr

Mathews Euro record continues, he started with a 4-5-1 when we needed to score.:rolleyes:

Can anyone post up his awful record here. The drubbing by that Welsh side was the worst ever
01/08/2008, 1:34 PM
jinxy lilywhite

Good Draw for Pat's. 50-50 game can go anyway. Progression is better at this stage than a glamour tie.
Someone posted that an away tie first would be better but I'd tend to disagree. Would cork of got a decent home gate if they got hammered in finland in the first leg? I don't think they would.
01/08/2008, 1:51 PM
paul_oshea

It was I, I didnt mean it in terms of gate receipts, I meant it in terms of, each team knows exactly what htey need in the second leg, and each team therefore at home in the first leg may be a little more complacent as they know they have a second leg no matter what. Irish teams that can go all out in the first leg away and try and secure a draw, have their destiny in their own hands when they return home. Isn't it better to have that at home in the second leg, than away in the second leg? Home advantage and all that. We have seen too many EL teams battle out scoreless draws in the frst leg at home, only to be convincingly beaten in the second. The game that best suits my example is shels away(against split) where they knew exactly what they had to do at home and did it. Look at Derry away against PSG etc(and at home etc). I'd like to see the full stats actually, either way, certainly against bigger teams it seemed to help to have the first leg away from home.
01/08/2008, 1:53 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

Good Draw for Pat's. 50-50 game can go anyway. Progression is better at this stage than a glamour tie.
Someone posted that an away tie first would be better but I'd tend to disagree. Would cork of got a decent home gate if they got hammered in finland in the first leg? I don't think they would.

I posted that its easier to progress being drawn away first.
01/08/2008, 1:54 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

It was I, I didnt mean it in terms of gate receipts, I meant it in terms of, each team knows exactly what htey need in the second leg, and each team therefore at home in the first leg may be a little more complacent as they know they have a second leg no matter what. Irish teams that can go all out in the first leg away and try and secure a draw, have their destiny in their own hands when they return home. Isn't it better to have that at home in the second leg, than away in the second leg? Home advantage and all that.

Yes, I agree. The first 45 minutes of the tie usually involves the teams getting to know each other and each team being cautious. The 2nd leg is normally more open so its important to have home advantage.
01/08/2008, 2:20 PM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

they have got their comeuppance at long last.. now its cork city turn!the baton has bein passed on from us..:)

Losing to a part-time, out of season team is far worse than losing to a full-time, mid-season team. Add to that, Cork were effectively trailing from the first leg.

Cork's result was bad but it was not worse than Longford's 5-1.
01/08/2008, 2:23 PM
adamcarr

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

they have got their comeuppance at long last.. now its cork city turn!the baton has bein passed on from us..:)

The common link is that tit of a manager that you sent down here.
01/08/2008, 2:27 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by superfrank

Cork's result was bad but it was not worse than Longford's 5-1.

Co-efficiently speaking at least Longford won the home leg...
01/08/2008, 2:33 PM
Duggie

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Originally Posted by finnpark

I posted that its easier to progress being drawn away first.

i dont know - its only easier if u do well in the first leg. personally i dont think it matters, the tie is over two legs anyway so if u do your stuff in both games the result will take care of itself IMO.
01/08/2008, 2:51 PM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by superfrank

AFAIK, Haka are full-time. Carmarthen weren't.

Can anybody confirm that Haka are fulltime. Somebody told me the other day that they're not?

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Originally Posted by SkStu

horrible result. embarrassing for the league. I thought the fist leg result was actually alright in that Haka are probably underrated a bit - but i wasnt expecting this.

Nail on head. Fully expected Cork to lose by a goal or two. As it was it's actually an embarrassing result.
01/08/2008, 2:54 PM
Duggie

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Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Can anybody confirm that Haka are fulltime. Somebody told me the other day that they're not?

Nail on head. Fully expected Cork to lose by a goal or two. As it was it's actually an embarrassing result.

id say they are, prob the same as over here with some full time and some part time. but id imagine haka are.

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