Minutes silence tonight

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Originally Posted by lopez

Here's one that isn't used so much in Spanish newspapers covering Irish affairs: Amadam. :rolleyes:

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Probably because the word is Amadán :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

For example, I seem to remember 1st, 5th, 10th and 15th anniversaries for Hillsborough and no doubt there will 20th anniversary events in April 2009. I may be wrong but I don't ever remember say a 10th anniversary of the Zambian disaster and we played in Dublin in April 2003.

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Huge difference there though. For one, Liverpool FC hold their own private memorial service on the Kop with the families every year on April 15th. The only thing they ask is that the club does not play on that day or that a fixture does not clash with the service. Unlike Utd, they do not make a big song and dance about it and request the whole Premier League and the FA to join in. You do not hear about this service in the media, or see it plastered all over the papers. Nor do Liverpool make a big deal out of it on a significant anniversary date. Liverpool FC and the Hillsborough Justice group are also heavily and directly connected and the clubs interest is genuine. Do Manchester Utd have an annual memorial service with the Munich families? I seriously doubt it. I can't recall any minutes silence for hillsborough at Ireland games or any other international games for that matter. The Munich thing is just United being United - milking it for all it's worth

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Probably because the word is Amadán :rolleyes:

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Wow! A lesson in the title of the Irish prime minister one minute and a spelling lesson the next. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Huge difference there though. For one, Liverpool FC hold their own private memorial service on the Kop with the families every year on April 15th. The only thing they ask is that the club does not play on that day or that a fixture does not clash with the service. Unlike Utd, they do not make a big song and dance about it and request the whole Premier League and the FA to join in. You do not hear about this service in the media, or see it plastered all over the papers. Nor do Liverpool make a big deal out of it on a significant anniversary date. Liverpool FC and the Hillsborough Justice group are also heavily and directly connected and the clubs interest is genuine. Do Manchester Utd have an annual memorial service with the Munich families? I seriously doubt it. I can't recall any minutes silence for hillsborough at Ireland games or any other international games for that matter. The Munich thing is just United being United - milking it for all it's worth

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You just gotta love how people are using Utds tributes on this 50 year anniversary to have a go at the club and here even as a form of one upmanship for their clubs:D

Look, it was a significant moment in English football history. It's not Utd's fault everyone seems to want in. They certainly didn't 'request the whole premier league and FA to join in'?

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Originally Posted by Armando

Look, it was a significant moment in English football history. It's not Utd's fault everyone seems to want in. They certainly didn't 'request the whole premier league and FA to join in'?

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But why do they allow AIG - their sponsor - to have a place on the commemoration poster? I personally find that disgraceful. Surely they could have asked AIG to have their name left off just once.

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Originally Posted by lopez

Wow! A lesson in the title of the Irish prime minister one minute and a spelling lesson the next. :rolleyes:

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I just found it ironic that in a post where you complained about the lack of knowledge of the Irish language, you then went on to misspell a word in Irish.

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

........I can't recall any minutes silence for hillsborough at Ireland games or any other international games for that matter.....

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I remember Ireland playing at home against Spain in a WCQ about 10 days after Hillsborough with Staunton, Whelan and Houghton in the team and am certain there was a minute's silence before that game.

I think you will find England played at Wembley the same day and that Scotland and Wales also played at home and at all those games there was a minute's silence.

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

I remember Ireland playing at home against Spain in a WCQ about 10 days after Hillsborough with Staunton, Whelan and Houghton in the team and am certain there was a minute's silence before that game.

I think you will find England played at Wembley the same day and that Scotland and Wales also played at home and at all those games there was a minute's silence.

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I think you'll find having a minutes silence at the time the event actually happened is pretty normal. Thats not what I was talking about though, I don't recall any 'anniversary' minutes silence for same....

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I just found it ironic that in a post where you complained about the lack of knowledge of the Irish language, you then went on to misspell a word in Irish.

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Evven morre irronic thaat thhe worrd wass thhe Irrish forr idiott. I don't claim to speak Irish fluently, probably because the vast majority of Irish people I've met don't speak it as a first language, or if they do they don't speak it around me. Take this forum for instance. How many threads on here are written wholly in Irish? Perhaps if Irish was spoken anywhere near the level of Dutch - which also has a native speaking population almost universally fluent in English - then I would have to learn it - I went to school in England and my father who was the pure stuff and born in the place, could speak even less of the lingo than I can, which is very little indeed.

Bearing this in mind, I don't need any w*nker(s) talking magallaigh (I probably spelt that wrong, and it probably needs an 'h' between the 'm' and 'a', but if it forces you to post any more inane posts, then I hope I did) about the English translation of teeshock (don't think I spelt that right either) when speaking English, although I think the relationship of Bertie and Mary is more akin to the Chancellor and President of Germany.

What is even more ironic is that Ireland has a population that mostly speaks English, and when there are efforts to promote the langugage, like in school, there seems to be little opposition from recently arrived foreigners but natives from big cities worried about their kids grades. It is also no surprise that this population even follows English football clubs, and stick their faces into a hanky carrying a cut onion to show their 'grief' about an English club having a plane crash back in the days when this plane crash was more like a car crash. I often wonder: Why did we leave the United Kingdon?

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Originally Posted by lopez

Evven morre irronic thaat thhe worrd wass thhe Irrish forr idiott. I don't claim to speak Irish fluently, probably because the vast majority of Irish people I've met don't speak it as a first language, or if they do they don't speak it around me. Take this forum for instance. How many threads on here are written wholly in Irish? Perhaps if Irish was spoken anywhere near the level of Dutch - which also has a native speaking population almost universally fluent in English - then I would have to learn it - I went to school in England and my father who was the pure stuff and born in the place, could speak even less of the lingo than I can, which is very little indeed.

Bearing this in mind, I don't need any w*nker(s) talking magallaigh (I probably spelt that wrong, and it probably needs an 'h' between the 'm' and 'a', but if it forces you to post any more inane posts, then I hope I did) about the English translation of teeshock (don't think I spelt that right either) when speaking English, although I think the relationship of Bertie and Mary is more akin to the Chancellor and President of Germany.

What is even more ironic is that Ireland has a population that mostly speaks English, and when there are efforts to promote the langugage, like in school, there seems to be little opposition from recently arrived foreigners but natives from big cities worried about their kids grades. It is also no surprise that this population even follows English football clubs, and stick their faces into a hanky carrying a cut onion to show their 'grief' about an English club having a plane crash back in the days when this plane crash was more like a car crash. I often wonder: Why did we leave the United Kingdon?

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It must be great to be perfect.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Nationality is not relevant to this tragedy.

There should be no issue with a minutes silence out of common humanity.

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If that rule was to be followed football matches would be shorter than the commemorative silences before them. I've no problem with minutes silences in general especially if they are directly related to the event in question, ie Player/officail dies and a minute silence is observed at the next match. But commemorating someone who died 50 years ago with a minute silence is a bit redundant IMO. also if it had been Juventus or Real Madrid who'd crashed in 1958 with Billy Whelan on board would the FAI have commemorated it in this way? I doubt it. The FAI seem to have an obsession with copying the Premiership, as someone said before "It's Diana all over again"