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28/06/2007, 11:04 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Dodge

YOu seem to forget that Pats have played Dungannon twice already this season, and at a time when Dungannon were in good form. They were one of the worst sides I've ever seen Pats play.

UCD, on the other hand, are a strong decent team.

UCD are one of the top 6/7 sides in the LOI, and IMO are better than Dungannon. I didn't sya naything else about the relevent strengths of the leagues so get down off your high horse and stop making out like everyone is out to dismiss you.

Dungannon had many players missing in the Setanta, they have a very small squad. But hey ho, you know best:rolleyes:
28/06/2007, 11:05 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Flexy

I do hope Linfield get a good draw this time, eg the teams from Finland, Iceland and Cyprus are all beatable and much cheaper and easier to get to for everyone. Even though we play in two different leagues I hope they get through as do Derry. Even though we all have our differences who's better etc, we should be cheering on our friends from either leagues. I myself would rather see Linfield do well as a derry fan, than Tampere or Tampax United from Finland.

Likewise

It can only be good for Local football that all representatives from both leagues do well. It also helps enhance the cross border tournement. Hopefully IL football will not embarrass again this season coming.
28/06/2007, 11:11 AM
Dodge

Every team was missing players in the Setanta and we have 16 players signed. But if you want to continue to believe that Dungannon are good enough to be in the top 6 in the LOi, please do so
28/06/2007, 11:11 AM
Graemerz

If we avoid Zagreb and APOEL we have a chance, no doubt about it.
28/06/2007, 11:15 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Every team was missing players in the Setanta and we have 16 players signed. But if you want to continue to believe that Dungannon are good enough to be in the top 6 in the LOi, please do so

I never said that either, they're not a top 6 team in IL football either. Last season they finished 8th in IL.

UCD are in the bottom half of your league. So I was using them as an example. If that is a false position then forgive me.:)
28/06/2007, 11:23 AM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Flexy

I do hope Linfield get a good draw this time, eg the teams from Finland, Iceland and Cyprus are all beatable and much cheaper and easier to get to for everyone.

I'd disagree with that. Cyprus have a decent league and their champions would beat Linfield.
28/06/2007, 11:29 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

I'd disagree with that. Cyprus have a decent league and their champions would beat Linfield.

I think the Cypriot champions would be too much for Linfield and indeed Derry City. They play at a good level and also the climate doesn't suit either.

However I would expect Linfield to beat the cypriots at Windsor. We have a good record at home only losing twice in the last 10-15 years or so. We also stuffed Omonia Nicosia 5-3 at Windsor, so i would be confident of gettign a home result.
28/06/2007, 11:31 AM
gspain

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

I'd disagree with that. Cyprus have a decent league and their champions would beat Linfield.

I don't know about beating Linfield but their champions last season were good enough to hold our champions to a draw in the 2nd leg. They only lost 2-1 on aggregate against our champions so they must have a decent league.
28/06/2007, 11:32 AM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

I think the Cypriot champions would be too much for Linfield and indeed Derry City. They play at a good level and also the climate doesn't suit either.

However I would expect Linfield to beat the cypriots at Windsor. We have a good record at home only losing twice in the last 10-15 years or so. We also stuffed Omonia Nicosia 5-3 at Windsor, so i would be confident of gettign a home result.

Cork knocked out the Cypriot champs in last season's first round.

Derry I'd say would take them as well, pending the appointment of a manager.
28/06/2007, 11:34 AM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by gspain

I don't know about beating Linfield but their champions last season were good enough to hold our champions to a draw in the 2nd leg. They only lost 2-1 on aggregate against our champions so they must have a decent league.

In a roundabout way are you trying to say that Linfield are better than Cork?:confused:
28/06/2007, 11:35 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

Cork knocked out the Cypriot champs in last season's first round.

Derry I'd say would take them as well, pending the appointment of a manager.

Then their standard isn't as great as I thought. I would be confident then we could take them. Although we are unfortunate that we don't play in the summer.

Still that has gave me heart if we do get them in Europe.
28/06/2007, 11:35 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

In a roundabout way are you trying to say that Linfield are better than Cork?:confused:

No I think he is saying, that if Cork beat them, then Linfield has a chance to.
28/06/2007, 11:48 AM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Do Derry, yourselves, St Pats etc etc play UCD?

A silly comparison. UCD are unbeaten against Bohs, Pats and Derry after 5 games this year.
28/06/2007, 12:02 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Then their standard isn't as great as I thought. I would be confident then we could take them. Although we are unfortunate that we don't play in the summer.

Still that has gave me heart if we do get them in Europe.

You honestly believe that because you beat Cork in one game in the SSC that all of a sudden your equipped to get past opposition they beat in Europe recently?
28/06/2007, 12:13 PM
Graemerz

Linfield would be in the top 6 and would be very capable of winning the Eircom, even with just 7 full time players.

Dungannon/Glens/Ports/Cliftonville would all be relegation battlers in the Eircom League. I think all four teams are certainly capable of getting results against the likes of Waterford, Galway, Bray and definitely Longford.
28/06/2007, 1:15 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

You honestly believe that because you beat Cork in one game in the SSC that all of a sudden your equipped to get past opposition they beat in Europe recently?

We beat all your top teams. Cork got us at a good time and STILL couldn't beat us.

We beat Derry City(and undefeated in 4 games against them)

We beat Shelbourne in their own back yard and we beat them at Windsor,

We beat Drogheda in their own back yard and we lost to them in the final and that took penalty kicks.

So yes, we are more than equipped thank you very much. Not that you really need to worry, Bohs haven't been in Europe for a few years
28/06/2007, 1:31 PM
Graemerz

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

We beat all your top teams. Cork got us at a good time and STILL couldn't beat us.

We beat Derry City(and undefeated in 4 games against them)

We beat Shelbourne in their own back yard and we beat them at Windsor,

We beat Drogheda in their own back yard and we lost to them in the final and that took penalty kicks.

So yes, we are more than equipped thank you very much. Not that you really need to worry, Bohs haven't been in Europe for a few years

Technically it was a draw. Someone needed to lift the trophy though and unfortunately we lost out in penalties.. Kinda like picking the short straw though...
28/06/2007, 1:57 PM
SPXcyan

I personally think Linfield would be in the top 4 in our league! they have proven that they are well capable of beating our teams!
28/06/2007, 2:09 PM
Dazzy

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

I think the Cypriot champions would be too much for Linfield and indeed Derry City. They play at a good level and also the climate doesn't suit either.

However I would expect Linfield to beat the cypriots at Windsor. We have a good record at home only losing twice in the last 10-15 years or so. We also stuffed Omonia Nicosia 5-3 at Windsor, so i would be confident of gettign a home result.

I hoping to get them if we get through, a bit of revenge for 2003, were it was Keelys fault.
28/06/2007, 4:30 PM
gspain

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

In a roundabout way are you trying to say that Linfield are better than Cork?:confused:

Not at all.

I'm just trying to ensure our league gets some respect.

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