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You obviouly care a lot about your club and football in your area as we all do here so I wont delve deeper, but for a LoI club missing out on millions on an academy player well its fantasy land still even if it shouldnt be, so I'm out! Big decisions at Dundalk cost the club milions so that can be done but not on academy retention.
It all depends how much Elding is sold for.. I think he's the best player in League tbh.. I tried my best to speak sense at the time, at least I can't be blamed for LTFC tossing the best player to ever come through it's academy.. I haven't commented for years basically on these matters, but just right now I feel I should for the sake of the club as currently it seems only people with zero experience in the game get to have their say!
Being a water boy for the U17s doesn’t count as experience lad.
Elding looks a great young prospect that will go on to have a good career but to call him the best player in the league is all sorts of absolute lunacy but it’s a game of opinions and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keen2win
Also, do you not see the irony in complaining that your club doesn’t give opportunities to local players and coaches while also calling for English born Sligo based Anthony Elding to manage your first team and praising English born Sligo based Owen Elding as the best player to ever play in your club’s academy?
Lets be honest here, he was only brought into our academy because Anthony was the manager and he brought him along. Owen is not from Longford or anywhere in the midlands. When Anthony left, so did Owen. The club hadn't a hope of holding him down. He's not like an Abankwah who was around Melview and we should have snapped up but slipped through our grasp. I really doubt the club had much power in this scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keen2win
Exactly. He left when his father did.
Neer realised how many Longford fan tuned in if not posters, good to see.
Hmm.. Not sure I’d back Bradley to have won the league with that Shels team last year, even given the fact that they basically stumbled over the line, plus the fact that Rovers and Derry performed well below expectations. Bottom line is that Bradley has an in built advantage at Rovers. Of course he has done the job, so deserves credit for that, but how would he get on at a club with less resources ? If Duff gets Europe for Shels again, an has any sort of a decent run in Europe, they will have had a good season.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Bradley built a team that was in freefall for 6 yrs when he started. The advantage you proclaim he now has been built up in his time there.
It wasn’t 6 years, unless you count 2 league titles and a Europa League group stage qualification as freefallQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
He also made no ground at all on the top two for a couple of years until they hit the financial skids.
There are multiple Longford players playing around the league. No point playing for Longford when there's no opportunity to progress! Elding would start linking up the academy and the first team, because he is a professional and that's how proper football clubs do it.. that's most important for me, giving young players and coaches a chance from Ireland's most disadvantaged community.. ya I have experience think I'm the only coach from Longford with a LOI medal tbh and involved in local game! ! Some people are just happy losing I think
To be fair our first cup and league were both won before Dundalk hit the wallQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I don't think so - the 2020 title (unbeaten it has to be said) was in part because Dundalk were entering financial trouble. €1.25m lost in 2019 and the 2016 group stage money pretty much burnt through.
Giovagnoli unexpectedly getting them through the easiest group stage qualification run going helped stretch things out for a couple more years, but I think it's still fair to say there were issues in 2020.
I think that memorable 3-2 win in Tallaght just before Covid where Jack scored the winner late on was the night Rovers believed they could beat Dundalk for the league and was played agaisnt estentially the 2019 league winning team.
Sure the behind the scenes stuff might have been happening but it was a league winning team on the pitch thast night.
Memory lane stuff
Rogers
Hoare, Boyle, Massey, Gannon
Flores, Sheils, Duffy, Slogget
Smith , Hoban
(Gartland Cleary and Kelly on the bench amongst others)
Rovers
Manus
Grace, Pico, Joey OB
McEneff Watts , Finn, Bolger, Byrne, Farrugia
Greene
6 of them still at the club plus Pohls was on the bench so 7
Two good teams
Adrian Massop literally has a LOI first division winners medal. You’ve an U17 C league winners medal. Relax there Mourinho. You’re not the sole Longford man with a league medal.
A league winning side and a league winning side wondering where their next pay cheque is coming from can be two different things though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Wait - what?!Quote:
Originally Posted by TownManForever
They didn't have that problem under peak6. They were throwing money into the club and wrote off loans when they left. It was when there owner was doing interviews saying they had double the budget of anyone else in the league. Money problems started when peak6 left and the new owners couldnt afford the contracts that were left behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yeah Adrian Massop was part of backroom staff when town won first division in 2014 Pineapple!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Eh dismatling a regular league winning side by getting rid of players still in their prime, Gannon and others eg. for crazy, useless, Zahibo types, a chairman telling a manager who to sign - Abibi (Murphy was supposedly Giovagnoli's target). When you look at the 2020 quad that was binned for players that agents that conned the chairman in to signing thinking theyd have resale value......no money wasnt the issue just at that point if you have owners there wlling to subsidise things. Until someone writes a book on the behind the scenes from 2020 to 2025, and suggests otherwise it was madness to push billionaries for local, well not billionires, wait until the eccentric 80 year old gets bored and leaves and or have a former footballer/administratot who knows the suss in as a COO.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Some of the characters involved should have gotten league winners medals 2020/21!