Republic of Ireland v Georgia - Thursday, 6th October 2016 -World Cup 2018 Qualifier

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05/10/2016, 2:55 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Bray are part-time; not sure about Sligo. There's a difference between having a big wage budget and being full-time.

Does Bolger have a family? (I don't know) Many LoI players would be happy to go for a 52-week contract and the chance of career progression. The chance to play in Parkhead, maybe get spotted and move on like Sammon/Hoolahan. Lots of reasons. And if he goes from €500 to �1,000 a week as you suggest (and I appreciate these are makey-uppey figures), then he's more than doubled his salary - even assuming Cork are on 52-week contracts (which they might be if they're full time?). Not all players will want to, but I still think more would take such an offer than not.

Dundalk are one team skewing the standings, and don't speak for the entire league, or how Pat's/Galway/Bohs - lower mid-table teams - would fare in the SPL. That's my point. By all means take Celtic out when looking at UEFA rankings - but you have to take Dundalk out for a fair comparison then.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sligo are full time, Bray definitely have full time players in their ranks.
05/10/2016, 2:58 PM
Stuttgart88

Bohs' midfielder Larry Wyse used to always get targeted by Hoops fans. Even after he left and played for Athlone(?).

Larry Wyse
Larry Wyse
Larry Larry Wyse
He gets the ball
He does f*** all
Larry Larry Wyse

In NYC during the World Cup in ’94 we sang a different version outside the UN building

Boutros Boutros Ghali
Boutros Boutros Ghali
Boutros Boutros Boutros Boutros Ghali
...and so on
05/10/2016, 2:59 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by geysir

It would be about half that figure at best.
Average spl salary figures are misleading. The spl is one of the most unequal leagues in Europe when it comes to salaries, here's some recent figures average salaries paid by clubs

Here's a bit useless tittle tattle but on-thread tittle tattle.
Georgia's new coach is Vladimir Weiss, who has a father named Vladimir Weiss and a son named Vladimir Weiss, all footballers.

Weiss the 3rd played against us for Slovakia back in March, also played against us in the Euro 2012 qualifier in October 2010
05/10/2016, 2:59 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sligo are full time, Bray definitely have full time players in their ranks.

What does a full-time player mean though?

The difference between a full-time set-up and a part-time set-up is huge - in terms of time for team training, match prep, gym and cardio, etc, etc. You can't do that with just one or two full-time players.

But if a club has one full-time player in their ranks, how does that help them if the other ten are all coming from work? And how many full-time players do UCD have? Most of them are students with no other jobs - does that count?

I think you overestimate Bray. And underestimate the SPL. Overall, like for like, it's a better league than the LoI. But I suspect Dundalk and Cork would do quite well in it.
05/10/2016, 3:12 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Weiss the 3rd played against us for Slovakia back in March, also played against us in the Euro 2012 qualifier in October 2010

We can just call him The Holy Ghost.
05/10/2016, 3:20 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by geysir

Here's a bit useless tittle tattle but on-thread tittle tattle.
Georgia's new coach is Vladimir Weiss, who has a father named Vladimir Weiss and a son named Vladimir Weiss, all footballers.

3 Weiss men.
05/10/2016, 4:04 PM
IsMiseSean

Came in here looking for news on the Georgia game and I end up reading through a debate on the SPL vs LOI and the family history on the Weiss'.
Didn't the Crosby lad get banned for bringing threads of topic? :rolleyes:
05/10/2016, 4:11 PM
TheOneWhoKnocks

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Originally Posted by IsMiseSean

Came in here looking for news on the Georgia game and I end up reading through a debate on the SPL vs LOI and the family history on the Weiss'.
Didn't the Crosby lad get banned for bringing threads of topic? :rolleyes:

I'm struggling to think of a single post Crosby made that was on topic to be honest.
05/10/2016, 5:00 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

3 Weiss men.

Weiss' cube.
05/10/2016, 10:53 PM
samhaydenjr

Quote:

Originally Posted by geysir

It would be about half that figure at best.
Average spl salary figures are misleading. The spl is one of the most unequal leagues in Europe when it comes to salaries, here's some recent figures average salaries paid by clubs

Here's a bit useless tittle tattle but on-thread tittle tattle.
Georgia's new coach is Vladimir Weiss, who has a father named Vladimir Weiss and a son named Vladimir Weiss, all footballers.

I know that the SPL salaries are skewed dramatically by Celtic, and the article you linked to brings a bit more clarity to the discussion - but even at that, the wage of the average player at the lowest playing squad is around the same as the best-paid player in the LOI Premier earns. And if Adam Rooney earns the average salary of an Aberdeen player, he would be getting paid 140000 pounds and scoring regularly over the course of two-and-half seasons against fully professional defenses, whereas Sean Maguire is probably being paid somewhere between 15-25000 euros and has only been scoring consistently for one season against defenses that are likely to include some part-timers at least. Which is why Adam Rooney would be a better choice as our back-up striker, for now at least
05/10/2016, 10:55 PM
samhaydenjr

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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

I'm struggling to think of a single post Crosby made that was on topic to be honest.

Well that's ice hockey concussions for you ;)
06/10/2016, 10:02 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

3 Weiss men.

That's so bad its good.

And yes no one is an 80s rovers fan so stop making jokes no one cares about :P
06/10/2016, 10:03 AM
paul_oshea

Quote:

Originally Posted by geysir

Weiss' cube.

Weiss cubed, no?

Weiss' script?
06/10/2016, 10:07 AM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by IsMiseSean

Came in here looking for news on the Georgia game and I end up reading through a debate on the SPL vs LOI and the family history on the Weiss'.
Didn't the Crosby lad get banned for bringing threads of topic? :rolleyes:

True. :)

I think we're all a little bit worried about actually talking about the match. I'm not really confident at all after that Serbia shambles, the rake of injuries and how we struggled past Georgia twice last season - I think they're due a bit of luck against us.

Can easily see us dropping two points here. Maybe three.
06/10/2016, 10:27 AM
TheOneWhoKnocks

We aren't missing any players who would be guaranteed to start.

Georgia are - Lobjanidze and Kankava.

Perhaps MON is getting his excuses in early.
06/10/2016, 10:28 AM
OwlsFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Bohs' midfielder Larry Wyse used to always get targeted by Hoops fans. Even after he left and played for Athlone(?).

Larry Wyse
Larry Wyse
Larry Larry Wyse
He gets the ball
He does f*** all
Larry Larry Wyse

In NYC during the World Cup in ’94 we sang a different version outside the UN building

Boutros Boutros Ghali
Boutros Boutros Ghali
Boutros Boutros Boutros Boutros Ghali
...and so on

Went to school with Wyse's brother or cousin (can't remember which) so didn't join in the chants.
06/10/2016, 10:32 AM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Weiss cubed, no?

Weiss' script?

A word to the weiss, give up when you're ahead.
06/10/2016, 10:59 AM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I think we're all a little bit worried about actually talking about the match. I'm not really confident at all after that Serbia shambles, the rake of injuries and how we struggled past Georgia twice last season - I think they're due a bit of luck against us.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm nervous because the loss of any points from these two game will probably be catastrophic, or if it's because I think we might slip up.

In theory, we should have enough at home tonight, especially if we pick the right team. I'd happily take another shambolic performance with such a positive result though.
06/10/2016, 11:05 AM
DeLorean

Just to add to the apprehension, I'd kind of forgotten that Georgia beat a very strong looking Spanish side away from home in the run up to the Euros.

Spain 0-1 Georgia
06/10/2016, 11:14 AM
Kingdom

I'm not positive about tonight, I firmly believe if we continue in the ideals of playing football the way O'Neill wants us to play, then our luck will run out soon. As others have said, if we drop points tonight, then it's a big blow.

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