Bohs in financial trouble - FAI Licencing called into question again?

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14/08/2010, 9:50 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Boo_Boy

Give your number 1 fan a call. He'll help you lot out.

:)

i did... this is what he told me...

Ezekiel, the dundalk fan, 25:17 - 'The path of the righteous club is beset on all sides by the inequities of the Shelbourne and the tyrannies of Shamrock Rovers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepards the weak through the valley of darkness. For he is truly the Bowez keeper and finder of lost "children go free" initiatives. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy the Bowez. And you will know I am Delaney when I lay my vengeance upon you.'

no idea what the f*cker was talking about.
14/08/2010, 11:39 PM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by SkStu

I agree with the Bohs people who say that they are relieved and that this is the beginning of the end of the rot.

I'll believe it if and only when I see it with my own eyes...

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Originally Posted by SkStu

The path of the righteous club is beset on all sides by the inequities of the Shelbourne and the tyrannies of Shamrock Rovers.

no idea what the f*cker was talking about.

Me either, lost me early on....
15/08/2010, 12:22 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by hoopy

I wouldn't agree with you there :bottle: :can:

A bottle of beer and a toilet roll?

Less of the details of your Sunday evening please, hoopy.
15/08/2010, 1:22 PM
GGAJD

I was in the brian boru last night and a barman who claimed to be ITK about the gypo situation told me they've already started to prepare for bankruptcy and every player and staff member have been told they can leave for free if they get a chance, including the poison dwarf. Could have been bulsh*ttin though.
15/08/2010, 3:54 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

A bottle of beer and a toilet roll?

Less of the details of your Sunday evening please, hoopy.

I think it's a charity collection tin. Maybe he'll lend it to Bohs.
15/08/2010, 4:29 PM
hoopy

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

A bottle of beer and a toilet roll?

I do agree it looks like a toilet roll instead of the can it's supposed to be. To use it as a toilet roll one could show how, after use, it ends up in the same place that Bohs members have been sending their club.
15/08/2010, 10:51 PM
de bowez

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Originally Posted by maseanjo

Let's see if we can arrange the following words into a sentence:
equals Pat trouble Fenlon financial.

Scapegoat.
15/08/2010, 11:53 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by de bowez

Scapegoat.

How about we nip this one in the bud right away so we can concentrate on on the topic at hand?

Fenlon took over a club that had lost out on the treble by 8 goals and come within 2 goals of a UEFA Cup group spot. He managed us to 3 wins in our first 15 league games of the 2007 season. To put that in context we'd finished second and joint first in our previous two seasons: basically, Fenlon just about managed to keep City out of the relegation zone.

And let's have a look at his signings shall we?

Dave Rogers (Shelbourne)- Left in June 2007 for Pats, later sacked by Dundalk for indecent conduct.
Karl Bermingham (Newry C) Left July 2007, now with First Division Monaghan United.
Kyle Moran (Free) Released July 2007, was with Pats, via Institute and Larne in the Irish League but released this season (see Dodge's post below)
Greg O'Halloran (Shelbourne) Made 6 appearances, currently with Cork City
Peter Hynes (Newry C) Made 13 apps, 1 goal for Derry. Loaned to UCD in July 2007 making 8 appearances, now with First Division Longford Town.
Alan Moore (Shelbourne) Joined Sligo Rovers in Feb 2008 but was released by them.
Ola Tidman (Free) Conceded 4 goals at home to Cork on his debut, now playing for IF Limhamn Bunkeflo 2007 in the Swedish league 3rd Division. Notable for making just about every City supporter's "Worst XI." Signed after he impressed Fenlon when on trial at Derry.

...but yeah, really he's just a scapegoat for our UEFA Cup/League/FAI Cup stars mystifying lack of form. Must have been something they ate...

You can call Fenlon the best manager in Ireland if you like, but playing the 'bitter' card when Derry fans discuss him is just ignorant
15/08/2010, 11:54 PM
de bowez

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Originally Posted by maseanjo

Ostrich!

Anyone that puts the blame on the players or manager certainly does have their head in the sand.
15/08/2010, 11:58 PM
de bowez

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

How about we nip this one in the bud right away so we can concentrate on on the topic at hand?

You can call Fenlon the best manager in Ireland if you like, but playing the 'bitter' card when Derry fans discuss him is just ignorant.

Id feel the same about Sean Connor, he is the one that handed out the big contracts to spoofers like Turner at Dalymount and its budgets from that season that have us in major trouble however at the end of the day its not Connors fault that he was handed that money.
16/08/2010, 12:35 AM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by de bowez

Id feel the same about Sean Connor, he is the one that handed out the big contracts to spoofers like Turner at Dalymount and its budgets from that season that have us in major trouble however at the end of the day its not Connors fault that he was handed that money.

At last the Bohs financials are unravelled -it is all about how big bad Seannie spent the dosh. Despite valiant efforts by Saint Pat to trim the budget since, the contracts handout out as far back as 2006 are the cause of the current difficulties!!!!
16/08/2010, 1:18 AM
de bowez

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

At last the Bohs financials are unravelled -it is all about how big bad Seannie spent the dosh. Despite valiant efforts by Saint Pat to trim the budget since, the contracts handout out as far back as 2006 are the cause of the current difficulties!!!!

Can you read? He was given a budget, he spent it, not his fault.

Managers take blame for results but not for clubs finances.
16/08/2010, 1:29 AM
HulaHoop

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

At last the Bohs financials are unravelled -it is all about how big bad Seannie spent the dosh. Despite valiant efforts by Saint Pat to trim the budget since, the contracts handout out as far back as 2006 are the cause of the current difficulties!!!!

That's right Ezeikial it's all the old boards fault and has nothing to do with what the new board did this season :rolleyes: Bohs now need to raise 400k to make it to the end of the year. Funnily enough if they had beaten TNS they stood to make around this figure from increased prize/TV/gate money in europe yet still clowns like comical marinobohs insist they didn't budget for european success. The old board spent a few million of Liam Carrolls money and ran up a debt of 7 million to win 4 titles in 10 years (bohs fans can judge if that has been money well spent or not) but the new board were supposed to come in this season and stop the overspending yet here we are six months into the season and they're struggling to find money to pay the wages. The new board have proven to be as clueless and foolish as the old one by gambling once more on the european dream. Instead of cutting back to a sustainable budget they outbid other clubs to sign 7 players at the start of the season relying on european money to pay for them. This after coming so close to failing to meet the SCP last year and relying on a heroic fundraising effort from the ordinary fans to bail them out. Bohs membership have gone along with all this and the ordinry fans like skstu here claim they didn't know the full extent. Bull**** - the dogs on the street knew bohs were scewed two years ago, there have been countless threads here and elsewhere. The accounts thread from last year should have woken every bohs fan up as to the reality of the situation but no they were blinded by the success on the pitch just like Shels fans were 5 years ago. No sympathy I'm afraid, you've been told over and over again to get off your arse and save your club but this is what the members did to those that raised doubts before it was too late http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-1448237.html

A few years in the doldrums is the least Bohs deserve after being so god damn stupid.
16/08/2010, 3:14 AM
SkStu

just a couple of things HH. I didnt know the full extent. I knew we were screwing ourselves season on season but didnt think that things would get so bad so fast. And yes, despite the cutbacks this year, it wasnt enough and the Board deserve to be slaughtered for gambling yet again.

Also, i dont think anyone associated with Bohs wants or needs your or anyone elses sympathy.
16/08/2010, 9:03 AM
Rasputin

Its clearly not Fenlon or the players fault.
Fenlon does not set the budget.
Fenlons job is results not balance sheets, he is there to get every penny he can from the board in order to maximise the chances of success on the pitch.
The board are there to give him a budget that is sustainable no matter how much money he is looking for.
Its not a very complex system but what is clear is that Fenlon is not at fault.
16/08/2010, 9:25 AM
White Horse

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Also, i dont think anyone associated with Bohs wants or needs your or anyone elses sympathy.

I doubt it will be offered by many fans.

The impending implosion of Bohemians is a case study in crass stupidity.
16/08/2010, 9:32 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Kyle Moran (Free) Released July 2007, currently with Pats, via Institute and Larne in the Irish League.

Just an aside. He was relesed from Pats at the end of last season. Easily one of the worst players I've seen at Pats
16/08/2010, 10:13 AM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

That's right Ezeikial(1) it's all the old boards fault and has nothing to do with what the new board did this season :rolleyes: Bohs now need to raise 400k to make it to the end of the year. Funnily enough if they had beaten TNS they stood to make around this figure from increased prize/TV/gate money in europe yet still clowns like comical marinobohs (2) insist they didn't budget for european success. The old board spent a few million of Liam Carrolls money and ran up a debt of(3) 7 million to win 4 titles in 10 years (bohs fans can judge if that has been money well spent or not) but the new board were supposed to come in this season and stop the overspending yet here we are six months into the season and they're struggling to find money to pay the wages. The new board have proven to be as clueless and foolish as the old one by gambling once more on the european dream. Instead of cutting back to a sustainable budget they outbid other clubs to sign 7 players at the start of the season relying on european money to pay for them. This after coming so close to failing to meet the SCP last year and relying on a heroic fundraising effort from the ordinary fans to bail them out. Bohs membership have gone along with all this and the ordinry fans like skstu here claim they didn't know the full extent. Bull**** - the dogs on the street knew bohs were scewed two years ago, there have been countless threads here and elsewhere. The accounts thread from last year should have woken every bohs fan up as to the reality of the situation but no they were blinded by the success on the pitch just like Shels fans were 5 years ago. No sympathy I'm afraid, you've been told over and over again to get off your arse and save your club but this is what the members did to those that raised doubts before it was too late http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-1448237.html

A few years in the doldrums is the least Bohs deserve after being so god damn stupid.

(1) that excuse is of course reserved for shams

(2) Not me the FAI stated it.

(3) bad as things are, we STILL dont owe 7 million (but dont let the facts...........)
16/08/2010, 10:18 AM
Spudulika

The funny thing about this thread, is the sheer crass gloating going on by fans of other clubs, and this is why football in Ireland is treated like something you wipe off the base of your shoe. The Bohs board messed up, they'll have to fix it. Sligo Rovers board messed up, they got on with the job, Galway, Cork, Derry, Shels etc etc so many clubs over extending and somehow they struggle on. It's a shameful mess when our national champions get into financial trouble again, it makes our league look a complete joke, yet the glorying in others clubs misfortune just shows why we deserve the "government" (ie Delaney and clan) we get. If member clubs can't stick together and fans at least let the full facts come out, then it's best we scrap the league and go fully amateur, at least that way all the little boys in the schoolyard can bicker and fight without media giving a damn.
16/08/2010, 11:09 AM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by Spudulika

The funny thing about this thread, is the sheer crass gloating going on by fans of other clubs, and this is why football in Ireland is treated like something you wipe off the base of your shoe. The Bohs board messed up, they'll have to fix it. Sligo Rovers board messed up, they got on with the job, Galway, Cork, Derry, Shels etc etc so many clubs over extending and somehow they struggle on. It's a shameful mess when our national champions get into financial trouble again, it makes our league look a complete joke, yet the glorying in others clubs misfortune just shows why we deserve the "government" (ie Delaney and clan) we get. If member clubs can't stick together and fans at least let the full facts come out, then it's best we scrap the league and go fully amateur, at least that way all the little boys in the schoolyard can bicker and fight without media giving a damn.

I mainly agree, and in time I'd hope it would be like that, but I think it's the stupid retorts and WUMMing every time the topic was broached over the last couple of years from certain posters that has resulted in the backlash this week.

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