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30/07/2009, 8:19 PM
irishfan86

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Originally Posted by joema

Exactly. This friendly will not be any more competitive, therefore we won't learn any more about Miller, no matter how well he plays. So it is a perfect opportunity to see what Fahey can do!

And I'm not debating how good a player Westwood is - I'm just saying that he shouldn't be considered for selection for Ireland.

Wasn't trying to change your mind about which Murphy is better. So your sarcastic reply really wan't warranted.

I rate Fahey higher than Miller, but I don't believe they're the same type of player. Fahey would play as a wide player in Trap's system.

Not saying I agree with it, but it's just the way it is, so comparing the two is pointless.

But even if they were vying for the same position, Trap is running our national team like a club. Friendlies are not merely experiments, they are trial runs for qualifying games. Players will not be dropped from our squad because there is a player who could be better, they are dropped when they don't perform, or if a player demonstrates beyond debate that he is superior at club level.

I'm not a fan of Miller, but he performed well against Nigeria, and to drop him would send the wrong message to everybody.

We all ripped into Benitez for dropping Keane after he scored two goals in the previous match while at Liverpool, and now many are upset that Miller has retained his place after an impressive performance for us?

Trap's whole message is that it doesn't matter whether you are a bench player or a starter at your club- if you're doing the business for Ireland you will keep your spot. Whelan and Folan come to mind as players who were not always figuring for their clubs, but have played important roles for us so far, and have thus kept their spots.

Club performances are important, and do tell us a certain amount about what our players are capable of, but it shouldn't be the be-all and end-all.
30/07/2009, 10:58 PM
Wexford Delboy

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/News...736691,00.html
hunt surely be pulled from the squad,perfect opportunity to call up fahey but it might result in S.reids call up?
30/07/2009, 11:28 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Wexford Delboy

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/News...736691,00.html
hunt surely be pulled from the squad,perfect opportunity to call up fahey but it might result in S.reids call up?

I doubt Fahey won't be called up as a result as he is not a direct replacement for Hunt (out and out winger). Ditto with Steven Reid. Trap has named four other wingers (cos he counts Keogh...) so I would be surprised if a replacement is called if Hunt has to pull out.
30/07/2009, 11:57 PM
Wexford Delboy

yeah i realise fahey isnt an out and out winger but in traps system thats probably where hed be played...still think its a missed opportunity to give someone else a run out in the squad
31/07/2009, 12:00 AM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Wexford Delboy

yeah i realise fahey isnt an out and out winger but in traps system thats probably where hed be played...still think its a missed opportunity to give someone else a run out in the squad

But my point is that he won't get a look in in Trap's system as he only uses out and out wingers.;)
31/07/2009, 12:55 AM
tetsujin1979

from Blackburn's site: http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDet...738268,00.html

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Interestingly, Steven Reid, who is continuing his comeback from long-term injury, has been named on the standby list, but the match is expected to be a little too soon for him to be considered.
31/07/2009, 9:12 AM
elroy

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

from Blackburn's site: http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDet...738268,00.html

Btw Andrews has been banging in the goals for B'burn in pre-season, could be a good season for the lad.
31/07/2009, 9:42 AM
zenokelly

Trap considers S.Reid a major doubt for the Cyprus game, don't mind the Socceroos so there's little chance of him being called up if Hunt pulls out

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Realistically, Trapattoni conceded that Reid -- who has spent almost a year on the sidelines with his latest injury woe -- is a long shot to be even ready for the trip to Cyprus on September 5. Naming him as a back-up here only goes to show the esteem in which he is held by the Irish management.

"With his type of injury (knee) it is very dangerous to rush back too soon," Trapattoni warned.
31/07/2009, 10:52 AM
geysir

I�m a bit surprised by a few selecting Foley for RB
Despite a poor 1st half against Bulgaria, Stephen Kelly is ahead of Foley for the RB spot.
This is a friendly to prepare the team for our last few group games.
31/07/2009, 10:59 AM
Scram

Is Finnan injured ?
31/07/2009, 1:23 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by geysir

This is a friendly to prepare the team for our last few group games.

At last, someone else has copped on to this.

Most here think it's a talent show to give new caps out to anyone Irish playing at a decent level. Isn't that what Stan did?
31/07/2009, 2:47 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

At last, someone else has copped on to this.

Most here think it's a talent show to give new caps out to anyone Irish playing at a decent level. Isn't that what Stan did?

Were people seeing this as anything other than a warm up for the Cyprus qualifier?
31/07/2009, 3:14 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Were people seeing this as anything other than a warm up for the Cyprus qualifier?

Plenty of people in this thread do anyway.
31/07/2009, 3:31 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Were people seeing this as anything other than a warm up for the Cyprus qualifier?

Judging by the disdain shown by many for the lack of Fahey, McCann, McCarthy, Murphy and others, yes, it looks like plenty were looking on this as a chance to look at new faces rather than what it really is - a warm up for the Cyprus game.

The team and immediate back-up is well established. Marginal squad places are up for grabs but our qualification prospects won't be affected by who's left out of the Australia squad.

The uncapped players will have the Premiership shop window to play themselves into contention for the Italy squad, maybe even Cyprus.

None of the English based players has played a competitive club game since we played Bulgaria. On what basis to people see the newcomers as being better options now than they were on the 6th June?

Players like Lawrence are probably worth an immediate look more than McCann or McCarthy. We have 4 good CM options if S. Reid is fit, but we're sparcely covered out wide. fahey may or may not be better than Miller but the fact is Miller played really well in his last game for us (mirabale visu).

Trap makes changes slowly but he does make them. Best, Nolan, St. Ledger, Folan, Westwood, Andrews, Foley and others have all played themselves into the squad. Others can do the same.
31/07/2009, 5:21 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

(mirabale visu)

Some people might say that, in trying to be a bit too smart, you tezzed it.
31/07/2009, 7:51 PM
tricky_colour

Yes it's not a French forum :D
31/07/2009, 8:14 PM
Diarmo

Isn't that Latin?
01/08/2009, 12:40 AM
geysir

It's supposed to be latin, his French isn't that much better, fortunately he is sound in football matters.
01/08/2009, 1:35 AM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by Diarmo

Isn't that Latin?

Yes that was what the big grin was for, intended to be a joke!

As in here at 3:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpu9...eature=related

I know my latin as well as my football ;)
01/08/2009, 11:29 AM
the doc

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