Setanta Announces Live Games

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Originally Posted by Flexy

RUBBISH WHY SHOW BOHS V DROGS NEXT WEEKEND top v Bottom when you have Derry v Shamrock rovers as game of the weekend. Bohs get everything at the moment, refs decisions tv money you name it Bohs get it

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Jeez, what a whinger! :D

Premier Division clubs will also benefit from payments for TV rights. All 10 clubs will get an equal share payment of €20,000, while an additional €35,000 has been set aside for clubs with six or more fixtures selected for live television broadcast, or four or more live television fixtures held on nights other than Friday.


So every club in non televisually attractive regions get the same as Bohs for up to five televised games, while Bohs takes a 2-3k hit on gate receipts each time we have a home televised game!!!!!! What are you all whingeing about you freeloaders?
RRS

Don`t see Bohs reaching the six game figure somehow as Setanta may be out of business quicker than we will be!

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Err - yes. They should :rolleyes:

The FAI sorts the contract with Setanta, so the FAI can ask for whetever it wants in there.

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Yeah, you're right.

Setanta: We'll give you x euro to show the games we want
FAI: Only if you agree to leave Dublin every second game
Setanta: **** off
FAI: Okay, we're sorry, give us the money.

Setanta hold all the cards, there's hardly people vying for the rights.

Setanta will show whatever makes most sense, i.e. what costs them least but is of decent standard.

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Originally Posted by CMcC

And Pol I agree to a large degree that financial matters (ie location) are dictating which games to show. But if Pats, Rovers, Shels etc were the next 'hot thing' I would wager they woudl be shown as much as Bohs currently are. I actually agree with your point re the other clubs your mentioned. Which is why I said Dublin location is one of the driving factors re producton costs. I believe those clubs would get more games - but maybe not as much as Bohs are currently.

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Yeah, we agree 100%. The point I was making is that if the next hot thing was outside Dublin they wouldn't be shown. But if it was UCD, Fingal, Rovers, Pats or Shelbourne, they'd get the same treatment as Bohs are getting.

There is no conspiracy here. It's economics, pure and simple, coupled with the fact that Bohs are the best team in the league at the moment.

On a side note, I would seriously doubt if there will be a Setanta Cup at all this season, or if there is, the prize money will be cut.

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Originally Posted by micls

Yeah, you're right.

Setanta: We'll give you x euro to show the games we want
FAI: Only if you agree to leave Dublin every second game
Setanta: **** off
FAI: Okay, we're sorry, give us the money.

Setanta hold all the cards, there's hardly people vying for the rights.

Setanta will show whatever makes most sense, i.e. what costs them least but is of decent standard.

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The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle in fairness.

Setanta don't hold all the cards. They need access to continuous live sporting content - and preferably football, as that is what drives most of their business. Where else are they going to get low-cost live football between May and August ? :confused:

Also - you're assuming the FAI actually tried to place stipulations on Setanta's contract, rather than just go all Father Dougal as soon as they heard someone was interested in showing games. Previous FAI history suggests you may be giving them too much credit.

Finally - we do have channels vying for our content. RTE and TG4 also carry games. There's also the possibility of Sky at some point showing live LOI - they showed live Irish League last season.

Setanta need us as well you know.....

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Setanta need us as well you know.....

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I don't think they do. I'd say the viewing figures wouldn't justify the money spent on live league games and the Setanta Cup and it's assocciated costs.

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Originally Posted by ciaraa

Most hyped up derby probably. For 2 supposedly big teams playing their biggest 'enemys' the attendances are pretty poor to say the least and the fare on offer is generally worse.

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Tallaght will sell out on Saturday night, with the support split 95%-5%. :D

Will United Park sell out for the other derby, with a bigger capacity? :confused:

[QUOTE=mypost;1159709]Tallaght will sell out on Saturday night, with the support split 95%-5%. :D

That will a nice novelty for the majority of your fans who have never seen you outnumber us at the fixture.:D

That will a nice novelty for the majority of your fans who have never seen you outnumber us at the fixture.:D[/QUOTE]
:D:D

your not the chief book keeper at bohs by any chance are you ?
evidently arithmetic is not your strongest suit

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Originally Posted by mypost

Will United Park sell out for the other derby, with a bigger capacity? :confused:

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It probably will sell out in fairness.. United Park is limited to 2,000 so it won't be that hard.

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Originally Posted by placid casual

That will a nice novelty for the majority of your fans who have never seen you outnumber us at the fixture.:D

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:D:D


evidently arithmetic is not your strongest suit[/QUOTE]


Last one I can think of was the RDS, were you even born then?

Childish bickering aside, would it not make most financial sense to show the away games of the teams with the highest attendances. Cork, Derry and Shams are getting around 3000 at home, but only taking a few hundred round the country. That's pretty much 2-3000 guaranteed viewers for the televised game, plus whatever floating support you pick up. Let's face it, the average floating barstooler probably doesn't even know who Bohemians are.

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Originally Posted by pól-dcfc

I don't think they do. I'd say the viewing figures wouldn't justify the money spent on live league games and the Setanta Cup and it's assocciated costs.

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In fairness, you're missing the point a bit on why Setanta is showing the LOI Pól. They need live football - as that's what they're all about. A live sports channel, that specialises in football, has to show SOMETHING all year round. It can't just wind-down for a third of the year or they'll risk shedding subscriptions.

So with that in-mind - where else do yuo suggest Setanta would be able to get regular live football games at this time of year at relatively low cost and with at least some vague form of subscriber interest ?? :confused:

It's as much about content and schedule filling as it is viewer figures for Setanta. Which is why they go for the cheap Dublin-only option.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

In fairness, you're missing the point a bit on why Setanta is showing the LOI Pól. They need live football - as that's what they're all about. A live sports channel, that specialises in football, has to show SOMETHING all year round. It can't just wind-down for a third of the year or they'll risk shedding subscriptions.

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I understood your previous post. Setanta don't have a pot to **** in. I don't think they don't need the LoI. The LoI don't need Setanta much either. Setanta have the rights to plenty of EPL games that they could presumably repeat and get higher audience figures than for the LoI - costing them much less money. They also have several other sports featured.

Why do you have to post everything as if it is 100% solid fact steve? They don't need the sport on their channel to be live. They just need something on. A massive amount of your posts are valid, but the way you post sometimes really p1sses me off. I wish you could bring out all the good, constructive suggestions and opinions you have, without constantly (intentionally or not) belittling just about everyone else on the forum. This is obviously just a personal opinion, but other posters responses to some of your posts would indicate that they feel the same way.

I'm trying not to be p1ssy here, and I apologise in advance if it comes across that way.

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Originally Posted by mypost

Will United Park sell out for the other derby, with a bigger capacity? :confused:

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Why be a **** about it? United P has a capacity of 2000 of course it will sell out ffs. Typical Rovers attitude...:rolleyes:

I remember talking to someone a couple of years back who used to film games around the league (and now works for MNS) - he told me that Dalymount was one of the only grounds in the League at that time which had the cabling and such to facilitate live TV broadcasts installed permanently (making it extremely easy for RTE/TG4/Setanta to roll up, plug in their equipment and the rest).

Maybe that is still the case - and this is one mitigating factor to the amount of Dalymount broadcasts...

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Originally Posted by pól-dcfc

I understood your previous post. Setanta don't have a pot to **** in. I don't think they don't need the LoI. The LoI don't need Setanta much either. Setanta have the rights to plenty of EPL games that they could presumably repeat and get higher audience figures than for the LoI - costing them much less money. They also have several other sports featured.

Why do you have to post everything as if it is 100% solid fact steve? They don't need the sport on their channel to be live. They just need something on. A massive amount of your posts are valid, but the way you post sometimes really p1sses me off. I wish you could bring out all the good, constructive suggestions and opinions you have, without constantly (intentionally or not) belittling just about everyone else on the forum. This is obviously just a personal opinion, but other posters responses to some of your posts would indicate that they feel the same way.

I'm trying not to be p1ssy here, and I apologise in advance if it comes across that way.

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Helpful feedback Pól, constructively put. Thanks and apologies.

I'm just used to arguing things with conviction (sadly it's my job !).

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