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point taken and actually agree with you but i honestly dont think celtic moving south is a positive thing, and as for Mcgeady - moving south just for the sake of it, is wrong. If a top club comes along, then ok. But b'ham, s'land etc would be a step down, imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I forgot Carlos Cuellar as well. He went to Villa last season for £7.8mQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
A Great club has much more to it, than the league it plays in.
Though Scottish clubs across the board are suffering at the moment from a lack of funds, driven by media revenue/ tv exposure and the current economic cycle. This filters its way down to poorer quality on the park and attendances at the stadiums. Unfortunatley.:(
some folks regretably believe the sky and "so called irish" press hype here that they think that the EPL is the be-all and end all of football. as i previously said in this fred - football has lost its soul. Hopefully though, we might get our sport back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
telegraph say briminghim are tabling a bid of £14mil for him. Looks like it could be done by monday.
RTE says £8m?? (per the other forum - feedposter)Which would be a bit weird seeing as a £10m bid was knocked back last week.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
£14m would be too hard for Celtic to say no to.
ya but mowbray then said he doesn't need it, that celtic aren't dictated by the need to sell.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...n-McGeady.html
We dont need to sell but £14m would be difficult (perhaps downright stupid) to turn down.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I love watching him at Celtic but appreciate that he will need to move on at some stage to develop further and who knows what Premiership clubs will be offering for the 'McGeadys' of this world in a year or twos time - Id say its a fair chance it will be much less rather than much more than £14m......
A £14m package might even get the Keane to Celtic rumour (episode 10) up and running.
What are the odds that Birmingham are trying to offload McSheffrey in the package?
When you have a look at EPL club finances, there appears to be only one club (Birmingham) who can actually afford to make a bid.
Liverpool could use McGeady but I guess they have a bigger financial fish to fry, servicing a £450m debt with no surplus income.
I don't know much about Celtic but they seem to have a few good young wingers at the club that could fill McGeady's shoes. 14m would give them a massive advantage over Rangers.
£14mil is a fair price i think but really hope he doesnt go to birmingham., Just hope he McGeady (and celtic)dont get blinded by the cash...Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
altho big eck does knows him well, should know how to best utilise his skill. good irish contingent there currently too which should help
At the end of the day the EPL is a different kettle of fish to the SPL. I wouldn't mind seeing McGeady go to Birmingham. Its about the bigger picture and he would need to prove himself in the EPL and if he goes there and plays well for 12/18 months a better club will come along.
While I wouldn't mind him signing for Birmingham, personally I'd prefer to see him go to a Spanish or German club.
here, fishy fishyQuote:
Originally Posted by yapster
which trick is the one you are speaking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
I'd say he's more of a 5 trick pony with little end product.
Who knows maybe a move the th EPL will help improve this aspect of his game.
Hilarious coming from you. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by yapster
mcgeady is ok, i like him, but moving to birmingham is a bit uninspiring. I guess it's good coz he will be playing in a different environment and more likely to see him on highlights but i expected more. cant believe anyone would invest so much for him. he's decent but that would be a rip off.
When Nani cost 17million, anything less than that would be a bargan for McGeady :)Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
I only keep a passing interest in Celtic, watching their odd game but they seem to be going backwards under Mowbray??? Rangers are well clear now with a very very average looking team. Cant see McG getting much CL football with Celtic at this rate.
what has Aiden's paternal granny got to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by skstu
damn this forum cracks me up at times. lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I take it Yapster's a troll then? :rolleyes:
Just as expected, Celtic assistant manager states the obvious, as reported by the
BBC
"Every footballer has a price, I would suggest at any club," said Venus.
"So it would be folly of me to sit here and say that there's no way Aiden McGeady's leaving. But I would suggest it would probably take a lot of money."
McGeady is being tracked by a number of clubs in England and abroad, with Birmingham City being one known to have made a firm inquiry.
Blues manager Alex McLeish is thought to be considering a fresh move for McGeady, with Celtic likely to be looking for about £10m.
It sounded like a COME AND GET HIM statement to me.
Maybe the club he'd be playing for would be a step down, but the clubs he'd be testing himself against would certainly be a step up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larssonisghod
Personally whether Celtic win or lose every game means nothing to me, I'm only interested in how McGeady does for Ireland. I think a move to a league which sees him up against better players would do something to show us his true level.
A move to Birmingham is a step up imo. So he wont play in the champions league for a while. He'll be up against decent oppositon most weekends and will have to up his game to get his place. At the mo he walks into the celtic side, don't think the same would happen in brum if he wasn't playing well.
The champions league was the only platform for Aidean to really test himself at Celtic and with the new qualifying rules and Celtic no longer assured of winning the SPL every year I don't think he can bank on getting that every year.
Agreed re price tag, but when we still see clubs spending 25m on donkeys like joleon (rubbish name as well) lescott then inflated player prices are still alive and well in the soon to be bankrupt Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
He's not worth anything near 10mil imo, I would say about 5mil would be more realistic. The Premier League will be a massive step up for him, Its going to be sink or swim for Aiden.
I hope im wrong but I can see him back on loan in Scotland within a year or two.
Re: Comparing his valuation to the crazy money spent on Lescott etc, Man City are competing in a different market to Birmingham, its completely skewed by the blank cheque they have at their disposal and Everton didnt want to sell him so they had to pay a premium.
True, but comparing him to the transfers of the better players from the SPL over the last few seasons (Craig Gordon, Alan Hutton, etc) gives a better idea of the cost of buying the top players from the SPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeside Swagger
Whether or not he's worth £10million+ is a different argument to what he'll cost to buy
As a different example, is Shay Given really worth 6 million? Probably double that and you're closer to his true value, but that's what Newcastle were willing to sell him for.
I think the whole concept of "worth" can be thrown out the window. What matters is how much it will cost to buy him, eloquently described by numerous posters above.
Celtic have seen less talented players like Craig Gordon and Alan Hutton both go south in recent years for 9M so they are not going to undervalue McGeady. They are in a fairly solid financial position so they don't have to sell him unless the price is right for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeside Swagger
Absolutely! Similar to one half of the situation with the Lescott sale by Everton. i.e. Celtic also dont need to sell. Birmingham might not be a Man C but they are as close to an 'open cheque book' as we are likely to get seeing as Man C are not in the market for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon 7
They are in a strong Financial position in so far as they dont have any debt and refuse to use leverage as a means to raise funds. Its not as if they are flush with cash for transfers though.
I think Celtic's willingness to consider offers might have something to do with McGinn's advance. Another goal last night. It's beginning to look like a serious lost opportunity him playing for the North.
McGinn always wanted to play for the NorthQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Didn't Gordon go from Hearts?
he did i think they ment that they have seen other scotish clubs recieve those amounts? either that of he was mistaken but yep he was hearts keeper won spl player of they year whyle with them
McGeady going to Birmingham would be a positive move for him, career wise.
He's 23, yet to reach his peak & staying in Scotland is an admission that he does not believe he has the ability to perform at a decent level.
There is no doubting that he believes in his own ability, but I dont think anyone should doubt just how much McGeady loves his club. People might laugh at that and say its not exactly professional but while I do think he will move on eventually he will not be in a big hurry to leaveQuote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
I've no doubt that McGeady has a huge passion for Celtic and irrespective of his future career choices he will always be a Hoop, but i don't see how, if he's ambitious to further his footballing career, he can expect to do that at Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg