Ah so winning more trophies against poor teams is better than winning fewer trophies when there is a challenge. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by goal-achio
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Ah so winning more trophies against poor teams is better than winning fewer trophies when there is a challenge. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by goal-achio
@kevin don't waste your breath on Goal.
@goal.....Temple ruled Cork for 10 years on the trot.
Check the Aul site to see who's won a Quad.
I have said and il say again Coachford are a very good side.
That Temple side was the best team iv ever seen play in Cork , ever.
The Greenmount side next were just at there best unreal.
Goal , for a fella who normally dose his homework I'd of expected ya to know who has more league titles.
Jason I never mentioned who had more titles I asked the question did they ever win a quad so since you know it all educate me and tell me yes or no?
93/94
Temple won the intermediate league.
The Aul Shield .
Linnane Cup.
Corinthians Cup.
I'm afraid to ask but how did they win the MSL and AUL competitions in the same seaon ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Bourne
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne
For us of a younger age Who were those competitions for?
As we don’t have two of those competitions any more and the Corinthians Cup is competed for if you lose in the opening round of your divisional cup.
The AUL had a senior division at one time , late 80's early 90s so they won the Aul Intermediate leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Hacker
I dont think Coachford have won the Quad either ?? That might change after SundayQuote:
Originally Posted by goal-achio
Dont believe the Corinthians cup was always a losers cup . That temple side wouldnt have been allowed play in the AOH cup at the time due to it being a junior competition then.Quote:
Originally Posted by fruice
Fair enough never knew there was a senior level within the AUL.Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinJBarry
But to that extent is it pointless comparing Coachford to them ?
if one was competing at junior and one at senior!!
I believe and I may be wrong so Jason jump in and feel free to correct me , Temple competed in the FAI senior cup and went quite far on a few occasions . So there is no argument . Temple the AUL side in the 80/90s are a far superior side to Coachford . QUAD or NO QUADQuote:
Originally Posted by fruice
That puts an end to that argument then
Looking back at our book for our 40th anniversary with greenmount we only ever won a treble, never done a quad, so if coachford manage the quad then fair play some achievement, but the AUL in a whole was stronger back then then it is now and I do firmly believe that our greenmount team and the Temple team would beat the current coachford team but that is something we will never know haha
So does that mean back then that the AUL was classed as a senior league?Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinJBarry
Just to clarify a few things lads.
The MSL had a Senior league .
The Aul had an intermediate.
After 93/94 the Aul intermediate teams then formed the Aul Prem.
It was a 2 year transition where the 10 intermediate/ premier sides were not entered into the aul draw until the last 16 stage , bate that.
So only 6 other sides reached that stage , hence why the AOH was so valued.
@Kevin ur completely right.
It's ledgendary up the Northside that Temple went to the Brandywell and only barely lost, much to the appriciation of the Derry supporters.
I completely respect that you can only beat what is in front of ya . But we should all appriciate the Aul is a pale shadow of what it was.
Credit to Coachford for winning a superb MJC. Brilliant.
The league was won the 1st game they beat Grattan, the rest is irrelevant.
I'd rather enjoy Sunday but on any given day these 2 sides have nothing between them as long as both play ball.
The intermediate speaks for itself.
Senior / Intermediate was basically the same thing.
Temple were Aul back then.
The Shield was for the intermediate teams.
The Corinthians Cup at the time was a huge cup , basically cause Collage Cors were still big hitters in the Aul .
The Linnane was for the top 2 divisions only.
Jason/ Gavin cop on will ya Grattan don’t play football would ya cop on the defenders pump it long the forward hope for the best and run their fastest to get it I being going on about this a year boy cop on now I’m trying to be good before Sunday
Gavin or any Grattan chap on here can ye honestly say yer going to cross Sunday with plan B iv spoke about this for months please tell me ye have worked on different approach cause if my sources is right ye haven’t trained if that’s through ye be bate out the gate I be after wasting money and my Sunday hoping for a good game and then ye’ll head back to Josh talking bull about ya their best team in cork we play well please don’t kick ball and hope for best
You were on the lash I take it harsh? lol
Well, I don’t think anybody expected any different on that pitch last night, grattan are a dogged tough organised side, it doesn’t matter, they don’t have the legs to compete with coachford on a big pitch, they’re a class apart in my opinion
Ball I was and I had few pints last night before and after the game so I said I’d leave dust settle but by god for weeks I saying Grattan would need to approach game differently and by god they did the opposite I take it they took nothing from last two defeats management need good look at themselves formation all wrong played into coachford hands again iv never came across a team who bypass their midfield so much with the ball I could go on and on but a waste of 2 hours watching that
On yesterday .
Up to the 1st goal , there was nothing between them. Grattan were missing Lordan and Harte,,,,,,take Casey and Cailan out and keep it in perspective
In fact I'd go as far as saying Grattan were bossing it with out actually creating anything, they bullied Coachford 1st and 2nd balls.
Bang 2 quick goals an the game was over really poor goals to conceed, but its always been the case in these games.
3rd goal, good goal and totally killed the game as Grattan were looking to get back into it.
4th was a worldy.
5 who cares.
Coachford have talked the talk and walked the walk.
Have to tip my hat to them . Good team , great manager.
Ref you obviously feel agrived at Grattan for some reason. I saw neither side nitting passes together . The people I watched the game with yesterday collectively saw a game won by individual moments of brilliance by individuals or moments of madness .
Neither side hit long balls yesterday.
Both played ball.
Difference was one side is used to winning and the other needs to re aquaint itself with winning big games.
Coahcford an Grattan have played 6 finals between then this season alone.
Won trophies we have never won an won trophies that have reaffirmed Cork Junior football is alive an well.
Fair dues to both.
If you are awarding team of the year , id give it to then both. If I was to award manager of the season, I'd gove it to both.
MJC
AUL Prem.
Champions Cup runners up.
Beamish/Murphys Cup
Mossie
Aoh
That's some going for 2 teams in one season .
No doubt you will have a whinge though.
Bla bla bla all you ever put up is stats would ya cop on I’ll agree with most people on here that everyone knew the outcome yesterday Even with the two players you mentioned where Missing they would of made no difference whatsoever so ever ye had at least 3 players gasping for breath at ht I was surprised to see um come back out the tunnel there’s a good 4/5 of that Grattan team I’m assuming retired yesterday for me they’ll need big rebuilt next season to compete teams be playing for second again next season in my opinion
Ref , on retiring ya I'm done after this as well . Seasons done.
The irony is honestly my names not Gavin it James, lads call me Jim.
And lastly, knowone actually cares what you think but as Kevin put it best,,,,,, ur mildly entertaining.
G'nite.
Lordan and Harte are two good players, to compare them to Cialan and Casey is lunacy, Harte has barely played the last two years through injury, lordan is one of the note underrated lads in the AUl but is wasted in grattan midfield, he looks to play ball and it bypasses the Grattan midfield completely for 75% of the game, the two coachford lads get into any MSL team, they’re a younger fitter bigger quicker side, I’ll give grattan some credit, they’re the best of the rest but on a big open pitch they’re nowhere near the level of that coachford side
Harte is as infuriating as it sounds probably the most talented player in the AUL.
Lordan was/is the best overall midfielder in the AUL.
The 2 Coachford lads, every proper senior team has 2 or 4 of them.
Is the smallest Chalky stepping away from Rockmount to let Cailan in , it's like comparing a Dacia to a Merc
Are the Galvins moving,,,,,,
Is Connolly moving to one side for Bradley
They have become a big fish in a very small pond.
Jason iv a pain in me head now from celebrating the quad getting plenty of free pints and ur not helping it going on a bit Ball is spot on there lordan must of being the biggest waste of time playing for Grattan the man is a pure baller and all ye did all year was kick the ball over his head I think if the rumours or right that’s why he’s moving on along with another few season over now well done to coachford brilliant season and to Village for getting the closest to um we do it all again next season ps never mind Kevin he’s only here like me to upset ye scally wag that lad is haha
Free pints? did you head down to Coachford then Colin? You should be embarrassed to show your face anywhere after that trouncing in the AOH finalQuote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
Hahaha
Colin this week Daniels last week make up your mind man but I will say your warm hahaha
I was saying it from the start he was a castleview man, he's the assistant manager up in castleview sure, on to yesterday's game it was a 1 sided game it was men against boys gratten fitness levels were poor you could see a few were out of breath after 20mins on a big pitch you will always get found out for fitness and yesterday showed and on the football side of it gratten kept going long against 6ft 8 center backs for coachford were loving it all evening long, all the talk about gratten pushing coachford all the way this year not a chance finished 3rd in league and blown away in cup final just goes to show they are living in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by KevinJBarry
I never mentioned Daniels . You wouldnt be on the same level as that man , a serial trophy winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
Ah Kevin be nice we do it all again in few weeks totally agree with the Fish Grattan were very unfit good few were carrying timber coachford different beast all together
You would know about a team being unfit - what training do ye do with them up in Castleview atall Colin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
Wow your on fire
Thanks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
Ref & Fish ,
Rat on your own clubs .
Class lads
You crack me up Gavin
Leave out the personal stuff lads.
Appreciate that 12th that Jason always on me case