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(b) has been regularly criticised by BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Here is just one snippet. Many more available if you are still in denial
https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/dan-...-game-16221449Quote:
Stephen Bradley has told Shamrock Rovers striker Dan Carr to up his game.
(c) appears to be largely unloved by the Rovers sporting intellegensa.
Just read back over this forum or Rovers forums for confirmation of this
“Shortly “ clearly refers to the four months left on his contract (mentioned in earlier post), Bradley has been critical and simply didn’t play him or played him out of position (hardly a vote of confidence) and most shams on here have been negative in their view of Carr (as many opposition fans have noted with surprise)Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Which of these do you think “aren’t true “ ? Or are you stating 4 months is “still longer than most full length contracts” ?
Same article says he was to go up to Derry too, and before Ez's post it was clarified he has a year and a half to go. His position is left wing, how have people not grasped this yet? He's a left winger that can play through the middle if needed. Hardly negative to be frustrated about a players inconsistency, similar attitude from Rovers fans towards Carr as Dundalk fans had towards Connolly if not more positive towards Carr.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Saying a player needs to up their game isn't criticism, and one example isn't regularly, been at the club a season and 2/3rds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Being frustrated about a player isn't the same as him being "unloved" and a vocal minority isn't "largely"
And yet, in your own words, the contributions on here from a poster who supports Bohs and the same from a lad who supports Dundalk represent the thoughts and perspectives of those entire fan bases. Good man.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
The vocal minority of posters on here, jesus lads does everything need spelling out for yous?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Stephen Bradley sending more love out to Dan Carr
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...-says-bradley/
Shades of Dominic Foley to Gent with that transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Bradley knows exactly what he's doing - it'll go over great with the fans. I suspect it's probably 100% true as well. Bradley will still get slated over it from the usual sorts though.
Dan Carr now called Bradster out,saying its a load of boll**ks what he said! Drama!!!!
Dan Carr has gone to Twitter to rubbish the claims Bradley made. Interesting. It's always hard to know who is in the right, when something like this happens.
Bradser playing to the Rovers fanbase here at the expense of the player?
This looks to me like a player who got an strong offer that he wanted to accept and the Rovers manager hanging him out to dry because Carr preferred the 3 year deal in Cyprus and the possibility of European group stage football to staying in Tallaght
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...-says-bradley/Quote:
"He just didn’t fit where we were going as a club," the Rovers manager said. "When representatives tell you that maybe his heart is not in playing for Shamrock Rovers, he’s not the right fit for you.
"People maybe think we needed to sell but we didn’t like what we heard, this club and this team and what we’re doing and what we’re building is bigger than any individual.
"If people don’t want to be part of it, no problem, we’ll shake their hand and let them walk away. That was the case with Dan.
"You don’t want people who are in the mindset of not being with the team and not being in the group.
"This club is a special club and it’s bigger than any one individual and unfortunately, that individual just felt he was a little bit bigger than us."
[QUOTE=Charlie Darwin;2013270]Bradley knows exactly what he's doing - it'll go over great with the fans. I suspect it's probably 100% true as well. Bradley will still get slated over it from the usual sorts though.[/QUOTE
Bradley playing to the gallery alright. Its a great move forCarr, the fact thst he still went on twitter to rubbish Bradleys claims suggests to me that Bradley overegged the comments.I agree though, won't harm him at all.Very few players leave clubs with the good wishes of fans speeding them on their way
At times why people say something is more interesting than what they say.
The two things I took from Bradley's comments are:
1. He didn't want to lose the player.
2. Rovers got very little for him
Don't know how you came to that conclusion for number 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Sounds to me from the fact Bradley previously talked about talking to Dan's representatives and not Dan himself that the agent may have deliberately twisted Dan's words and wishes when talking to Rovers to make a deal more likely.
More likely another faux pas by Bradser, if Carr had 18 months left on his contract presumably shams got a decent fee (otherwise why release him) so happy days all round. So why would Bradser have an obvious pop at him if deal was a good one for both parties ? if he thought with Carr gone he could garner some credit from the Tallaght cavemen by slagging him off it was very silly, now needs to put up or shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
....get in the popcorn :cool:
The likeliest answer from both is that something was said by the agent to accelerate the deal. But both can still be right.
He had been playing well and scoring well, so it's not as if he has been wanting away or indeed not being picked by Bradley.
From the same place you have it seems - speculation and reading between the lines?Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Well, they said at the shams AGM......😂🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Plenty of players have left and been wished well by the club so if bradser had a go it was for a reason.
Personally I would have left it alone , has gone end of.
I think Bradley showed his hand with his obvious irritation. Ye dont want to lose players in a league run in especially when a squad is tight. Maybe there wasnt a courtesy from Carr to give Rovers a chance to convince him to stay? Maybe there were little contact at all and a deal was done - could it been done a bit over Bradley's head? If there was 18 months (?) on his contract that would mean a reasonable fee could be attained. Nobody will know until the next Rovers AGM ;)