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JET's a couple of years younger so probably not, but interesting that they were both at Arsenal at the time and both ended up at multiple Scottish teams. Footballers who don't quite make it or end up falling below their expected potential seem to be vulnerable to this kind of thing unfortunately.
So much talent. No excuse not to have the same Ireland career as Shane Long. Long was the better athlete but Stokes as a footballer was just technically insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I played against him when he was 17 and home for Christmas from Arsenal and he was just unbelievable. He was a bit older than me but he was just unbelievable.
By comparison, I also played against Jack Byrne when he was home from City at 17 and the difference was huge. Jack was a lovely footballer, but Anto was jaw dropping. He just everything technically. He wasn’t the quickest but on his first summer home from Sunderland, he worked with a sprinting coach who really got way more pace out of him, to the point where Sunderland hired him to come over from Ireland and work with their whole squad.
It’s funny comparing those two. I was friends with Anto’s girlfriend (she was with him before he left for Arsenal until some point at Sunderland) and you’d hear from other girls who knew them both that he was very openly cheating on her as a teenager in front of her friends.
Later, I’d say maybe around 2009 I became good friends with a lad I was playing with who was on the same Ireland underage team with him, so I ended up going out a few times with Anto on a night out around those next few years - and I genuinely couldn’t believe what he was like. Taking coke openly, whipping his dick out on the dance floor. Just generally being an idiot. Such a waste…
Some people never change. Meanwhile, Jack was such a hot head as a teen. He had a free header at the back post with an open goal - so I gave him a slight shove. Just enough for him to mishead it over the bar. But he almost went into the post. He turned around and grabbed me by the throat and he went to punch, he didn’t swing a dig but he was pulled back before he could - and it was for something that was basically an accident. I was speaking to him after it and he was saying City had devised a light system for him (if he coaches said green, he could do what he wanted, orange and he had to calm down, red and he couldn’t make a tackle or engage with anyone it all. I played him in a semi final of a preseason cup and sure enough, he got a straight red in the final. Whereas you look at him now, and he generally seems really calm and whenever I’ve met him, a lovely humble lad…
Some of the stories I heard, from people who would know, about his time at Hibs were pretty shocking. Just unbelievably poor behaviour around the club, with the other senior players trying to manage him in relation to his dealings with the younger squad members. But he was basically out of control in terms of gambling and possibly other issues at that point. But he was still the main reason why Hibs won the Scottish Cup in 2016, for the first time in over a century.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
The general feeling is that he didn't really care at Hibs, didn't want to be there and thought he was too good for the club. So in a lot of games he didn't really try. But, because the cup final that year was against Rangers, he played out of his skin on the day and was near unplayable. A ridiculous talent, but he completely wasted it.
Exactly. Just look at Adam Idah and Liam Scales :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Not the contract we expected when he was the young great hope... handed 15 months for possession today.
I was going to make a joke that with time off for good behaviour it'll be like all his contracts - he won't see it through to the end - but there's something terribly sad about seeing such a waste of talent and thinking about what might have been.
Yeah. Let's just hope he gets his **** together, for his own sake.
He won’t be getting anything together, nasty piece of work who treats others badly, and seems to have no social conscience at all. Many more visits inside to come . Dosent ever seem to learn from mistakes, and dosent honestly deserve the amount of re starts he’s had.
I like how the thread title is "Free Agent" :D
I might have been amused to change it to "HM Prison Service" in my youth, but it feels like punching down now.
Is he on the right wing or B wing now?
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/...stokes-appeal/
His jail sentence got overturned/suspended.
Seriously what do you have to do to actually serve time in Ireland, it's a joke. I'm sure the judge is right and he'll have learnt his lesson and won't do anything bad ever again...
Just like the housing crisis we've got an accommodation issue when it comes to prisons also. We've a bed capacity of 4,514 and in July the number of prisoners stood at 5,015.
From the linked article
'Gardaí said he was "fully cooperative" and "a pleasure to deal with" :)
Judge Jonathan Dunphy said there were "exceptional circumstances", and he noted Stokes was now drug-free.
He described him as "someone who has a lot to offer once he sorts out his difficulties," but he warned the 36-year-old that breaching the order would trigger a lengthy sentence.'
It has to be his last chance, even Houdini ran out of lives.
I'd say as long as he continues to be "a pleasure to deal with" following his arrests, and he doesn't physically kill anyone, he'll probably be fine.