League of Ireland in Europe 2015

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22/07/2015, 11:15 AM
D24Saint

Don't be conceited the whole league doesn't revolve around the ongoings at Oriel Park I meant the league as a whole has stuffered a hit since the crash.
22/07/2015, 11:20 AM
PartySaint

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Speak for yourselves!!

According to the attendance thread on here our attendances are actually up this season from last.

Not being Champions and not having an Irish International in our team anymore is obviously a good thing for our crowd numbers..
22/07/2015, 11:29 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

I was looking at that result and was thinking wtf something not right there with the red card and then 2 quickfire goals in injury time. Seemed a bit too tidy for a side that won 4-1 with ease a week ago. Had totally forgotten there was form previous (v Sligo?).

Sligo, yep. Against Vllaznia six (!) years ago.

Allegedly.

Edit - in fact, they were named as a side being investigated at the time. Sligo game not specifically mentioned though. Don't know what came of it. They were also implicated in 2003
22/07/2015, 11:31 AM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

The FAI need to be more influential in their support of the league, and demonstrating it as a viable career path for underage players who are never going to be playing for the "big clubs" in England, that it is more benefit to the players to be playing at a good level for Dundalk, Rovers, Cork etc than going to Kiddeminster or Dagenham & Redbridge on loan for a season and then getting caught in the lower league mire.

At what level do you think that LOI offers better money than England?

Same question regarding quality of training.
22/07/2015, 11:51 AM
D24Saint

The budget even at lower leagues in England is much superior to the LOI for example Hartlepool United finished just outside the relegation places in the forth tier last season & so far have sold 2700 season tickets for the coming season. The financial freedom that gives a club must be huge Id say on average LOI clubs sell 400-500 season tickets.The only ace our clubs have is european money but very often that covers other expenses & doesn't get invested in infrastructure.
22/07/2015, 11:53 AM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Sligo, yep. Against Vllaznia six (!) years ago.

Allegedly.

Edit - in fact, they were named as a side being investigated at the time. Sligo game not specifically mentioned though. Don't know what came of it. They were also implicated in 2003

Alan Keane must have had more on them to win they had on us to win. Missed a penalty and scored an own goal.
22/07/2015, 12:04 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by D24Saint

The only ace our clubs have is european money but very often that covers other expenses & doesn't get invested in infrastructure.

A good Cup draw in England will help counteract that as well.

Away v a Premiership side in the FA Cup has to be worth two European ties given gate money is split?
22/07/2015, 12:13 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by D24Saint

the whole league doesn't revolve around the ongoings at Oriel Park

Really? But I thought when you get your own special thread on Foot that was it! Get out of the other side of your bed tomorrow ;)
22/07/2015, 12:21 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Away v a Premiership side in the FA Cup has to be worth two European ties given gate money is split?

Chelmsford City drew Colchester United at home a few seasons back in the 1st round and banked nearly �1mil between prize money, TV revenue and sponsorship/gates. Not bad for a Conference South team. Ok it was a rare Derby and got a lot of attention but still. That money would increase per pround I presume. It eclipses European money but for a run in the competition.
22/07/2015, 12:41 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by D24Saint

The budget even at lower leagues in England is much superior to the LOI for example Hartlepool United finished just outside the relegation places in the forth tier last season & so far have sold 2700 season tickets for the coming season. The financial freedom that gives a club must be huge Id say on average LOI clubs sell 400-500 season tickets.The only ace our clubs have is european money but very often that covers other expenses & doesn't get invested in infrastructure.

I'd be surprised if there's more than maybe two or three clubs in the entire League of Ireland that sell 400-500 season tickets.
22/07/2015, 12:44 PM
dundalkfc10

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I'd be surprised if there's more than maybe two or three clubs in the entire League of Ireland that sell 400-500 season tickets.

Totally agree with this. We sold over 1000 this year (prob will again next season) but in 4/5 years when we are **** again (its bound to happen, its the LOI) it will be back down to the 3/400
22/07/2015, 1:15 PM
D24Saint

What would be league average be ? all clubs seasons tickets accounted for , Rovers & Dundalk would be high we would be medium etc . I didn't mean average for each individual club.
22/07/2015, 1:18 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by D24Saint

What would be league average be ? all clubs seasons tickets accounted for , Rovers & Dundalk would be high we would be medium etc . I didn't mean average for each individual club.

I meant league average too.

A good guess for league average is probably closer to the 150/200 mark.
22/07/2015, 1:22 PM
El-Pietro

City had a decent number this year too, I don' tthink it was quite 1000 but it wasn't far off.

City and Dundalk combined had close to 2000, and Rovers probably would have had a decent number as well. If they had 1000 then those three clubs would have sold enough to bring the entire LOI average up to 150. I assume Rovers had less than that but I would imagine the average is a lot higher than 150 as every other club will have sold tickets.
22/07/2015, 1:22 PM
D24Saint

Depressing figures especially when the value these tickets offer is fantastic, ours was �200 this year I think.I not sure what the family ticket was but it was still great value for the amount you get.
22/07/2015, 1:32 PM
vinnie

The serial no. on my Rovers season ticket has been in the 1100's the last few years, I always buy at the last minute

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

City had a decent number this year too, I don' tthink it was quite 1000 but it wasn't far off.

City and Dundalk combined had close to 2000, and Rovers probably would have had a decent number as well. If they had 1000 then those three clubs would have sold enough to bring the entire LOI average up to 150. I assume Rovers had less than that but I would imagine the average is a lot higher than 150 as every other club will have sold tickets.
22/07/2015, 1:34 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

City had a decent number this year too, I don' tthink it was quite 1000 but it wasn't far off.

City and Dundalk combined had close to 2000, and Rovers probably would have had a decent number as well. If they had 1000 then those three clubs would have sold enough to bring the entire LOI average up to 150. I assume Rovers had less than that but I would imagine the average is a lot higher than 150 as every other club will have sold tickets.

If you want to go through it all:

Rough guesses in my view:

Premier:

Bohs: 300
Bray: 50-100
Cork: 800
Derry: 250
Drogheda: 150
Dundalk: 800
Galway: 200
Limerick: 50-100
Longford: 50-100
Pats: 250
Rovers: 800-1000
Sligo: 250

First:

Athlone: 50
Cabinteely: 70-100
Cobh: 50
Harps: 100
Shels: 120
UCD: 50
Waterford: 70
Wexford: 70

All of that would leave the average betwee 210-245. Stand to be corrected on those figures, but can't imagine them being much higher.
22/07/2015, 1:55 PM
Dodge

Pats have about 500, and it's regularly about that number too
22/07/2015, 2:05 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Pats have about 500, and it's regularly about that number too

That was my initial thought about Pats, but figured it must have been lower with a fair bit smaller fanbase than the likes of Shamrock Rovers in Dublin.
22/07/2015, 3:46 PM
Dalymountrower

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

That was my initial thought about Pats, but figured it must have been lower with a fair bit smaller fanbase than the likes of Shamrock Rovers in Dublin.

Bohs normally 400 members at 365 euro and 125 -150 season tickets at various rates.

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