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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
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A student of Ollie Horgan I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Good shout. Just because they are a Dutch team doesn't mean they play like the Ajax of old. I remember when I lived in Holland, how particularly rubbish a lot of the teams were, games with loads of goals all round. Take out the top three and that league was poor. Has it changed since then? Don't know, but Dutch clubs haven't done a whole lot since the 90's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Maccabi Tel Aviv knocked Basel out of the CL last year. I watched both legs, Basel should have walked both games, they threw both ties away with sloppy defending. Really was a pain and didnt think much of MTA at the time.
St Petersburg, not a hope.
As long as they remain competitive, Dundalk have a chance for at least one win....
"Everyone is better than us, we're in a relegation battle and nothing else. We'll be lucky to finish off the bottom of the First Division next season."Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Dundalk's Fixtures up on the UEFA website, Tallaght Stadium listed as their home stadium
AZ Alkmaar (a) 15/09/2016 18.00
Maccabi Tel Aviv (h) 29/09/2016 20.05
Zenit Saint Petersburg (h) 20/10/2016 20.05
Zenit Saint Petersburg (a) 03/11/2016 18.00
AZ Alkmaar (h) 24/11/2016 20.05
Maccabi Tel Aviv (a) 08/12/2016 18.00
Tallaght is the right venue for them. Ask BATE.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Correct. In the "Dublin Arena" as UEFA insisted it be called last week ... no advertising, you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Question is, which will be moved???
Up to Dundalk to do a marketing job on all the games to get a good crowd along for them.
Create a bit of hype around European football being in Dublin, do a ticket deal on the 4 home fixtures if bought together upfront etc
Dundalk need to try and exert some influence on European football if they can. Through or with the assistance of the FAI they need to argue and lobby that all league champions exiting the CL qualifiers should be placed in the following EL round.
If Dundalk win the league as expected this year, there's no guarantees they'll get through their first qualifying round next year, such is the obvious nature of knockout football. In such a scenario entering the following EL would be beneficial for their continued experience of European football. UEFA are talking of increasing the money for teams losing out in the qualifiers. Champions of lower ranked leagues need more European games along with the increase in money that'll be offered to them as a sweetener for accepting the tougher qualification route.
Should the 1st phase of the knock outs be included when the opposition is not known?Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
What is the leverage?Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Threaten to form a breakaway competition?
Yeah, I know what you're saying. Surely every association must have an equal vote? 21 league champions were out after CLQ1 and CLQ2 this year. The 38 associations of league winners entering before CLQ3 should try and work together to bring a positive change in the favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
It shouldn't be unrealistic for the FAI to work with similar associations to lobby for change. Doing nothing is like the A Championship clubs who lobbied for nothing and got nothing for their junior football mentality.
Within current structures, the Europa League should be limited to 2 teams from each country and league champions dropping out after each Champions League qualifying round.
Bless your little socialist heart legendz
You can't honestly believe that San Marino has the same 'vote' as Germany?
Never mind thinking that the FAI would lobby the rest to help LOI clubs
I know what your saying. Was it Scotland and Ireland that pushed for the euro's to be expanded to 24? It's non unrealistic for smaller nations to push for some change in their favour. The likelihood of the FAI doing so granted is remote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
UEFA were talking about the possibility of a third club competition. With changes imminent to the access list, it'll be a crucial time for lower ranked leagues to get some constructive change in their favour.
Lower ranked league champions entering the Europa League can happen without impacting on the higher ranked leagues. It could mean the 38 or so lower ranked leagues only having 2 EL spots to free up spaces for league champions in the qualifying rounds.
Resist, resist!Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Bad and all as the Europa is, does anyone think TV will go for another - lower - competition?
The money will depend on the TV.
The Europa isn't a bad competition. It's mainly been the EPL who've been dismissive of it and it's influenced those here who watch the EPL. The Europa is popular enough on the continent.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebray
Rewarding the EL winner a CL spot has been a constructive step. They should cut out CL third placed teams entering the Round of 32. Once you have teams in a group stage, the eventual winner should only come from those teams. Wenger and Villas-Boas have said in meetings with UEFA they have raised that issue.
I read on Facebook that Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign are planning a protest at the Maccabi Tel Aviv game. They are hopping to get people to waive Palestine flags inside & outside the ground which means Dundalk could be hit with a massive fine.
I can assure you, nobody with a Palestine flag will be allowed into Tallaght on that night! Straight from the clubs ownersQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainee
Very, very hard to stop in fairness.
A good kicking is what anyone needs who brings one in!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Please God Maxi will be stopped bringing one in!
Greatness folksQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Indeed it's ver easy to stick a flag under a shirt and unfurl it at the game. I hope the club warns people that anyone caught with one of these flags will get a lifetime ban from Oriel Park. Not that a ban will bother attention seeking political nutters who are only at the game to goad Israelis.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Fines for this crap RE flags will be huge
Should be safe enough most of the political nutters don't like paying for anything including match tickets ��Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Yer man from Galway will be down. He seems like loads of craic.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Looks like this is the groupings for the UEFA Youth League Domestic Champions Path draw later. Ajax and Anderlecht the obvious big teams here, with Rosenborg not far behind but all of these clubs you would expect will have very good underage set ups.
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/..._UltraWide.jpg
What sort of money is involved in that? I presume it has to be enough to cover Cork's costs anyway - but that could easily be E100k a tie (so not far off real Europe prize money)
It's a really confusing system that UEFA Youth League. 32 teams in the Champions League have their youth teams in group stages. The other 32 teams are in a straight knockout. 8 teams from group stage progress and 8 teams from domestic winners progress and meet in the last 16 of the competition.
The reigning champions Chelsea can't even defend their title seeing as their senior team didn't make it into the CL.
The final is held in Nyon each year in a stadium that would be scoffed at by League of Ireland sides.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...y-aerial-2.jpg
Bit of a shambolic competition, to be honest. Smaller clubs giving out as it will cost them a lot of money to participate. Seems set up to benefit large clubs with large academies. There's a surprise.
That's probably why Dundalk let Legia win.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Nah, not with seven million to spend ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Costs are covered by UEFA for travel and accommodation so not sure why smaller clubs would complain...
HJK Helsinki in the first round. Win that and its Roma or APOEL.
There is a reimbursement cap on costs that will be covered. Clubs in peripheral areas of Europe with few direct flights are disadvantaged under this scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
HJK lost 6-1 on aggregate to Celtic last season.
I'll be interested to see how City match up as they're clearly the best in Ireland by quite a bit this season.
Hopefully, they'll do themselves justice. It is right and proper that the best team represents Ireland in these competitions.Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
No question our U19s are the best on the island. In the Cup final again this year, already wrapped up the southern division. This will be a good test.
They will be without Ellis and Donnellan wont they? Ogbene is very good tho he could impressQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Probably, I guess we might be able to recall them, but I don't know if we'd want to. Of course, the U19s have been without those two for some time now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ybig
The competition didn't even exist, then the NextGen series came along and made a good stab at it. UEFA of course threw a fit and made their own competition to kill off the growing NextGen series.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
No surprise that it's halfassed since they were forced into doing it.
Great opportunity for City, and they're clearly the best equipped team in the country. Hopefully they'll gain some good experience.
If Dundalk had made the group phase I dread to think what would have happened to our youth team. They're pretty good by League of Ireland standards, but could have wound up in a group with some of the big guns who go around hoovering up the very best talent from around the world.