yet another terrace gone and you're happy? Hopefully it will be restored now that they are out. There's only 3 left in the Premier and 1 in the First!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
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yet another terrace gone and you're happy? Hopefully it will be restored now that they are out. There's only 3 left in the Premier and 1 in the First!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
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Some achievement beating Flora alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Very disappointing day for the league in Europe, not to mention what went on this morning. Really thought Sligo had a chance on home soil but they were on the back-foot from the word "go". I couldn't even listen to the full Pat's game after Lviv got their away goal, I was so unenamoured by the goings on earlier in the day. How were the players received by the fans generally?
Questionable. The Barclay's Great Irish Sporting Public™ are only really interested in the Top Four™ and Celtic. Maybe Spurs at a push or some club like Fulham or Spartak with an Irish player (although McGeady is injured at the minute). Rangers might cause a bit of a stir and actually give Rovers a chance. I'm assuming they'll have a few players suspended for the next round after their awful disciplinary showing against Malmö. They might provide a quick windfall, but "glamour ties" don't do anything for Irish football in the long-term. Shels-Deportivo showed that. Birmingham might be vulnerable at the minute, mind. Whatever tie offers Rovers the greatest chance of progression, even if slim, is the one they ought to be after. What about Salzburg? Bohs pushed them close a few seasons ago and things might have been very different had it not been for a suicidal mix-up of a similar nature to the goal they gave away to Ljubljana in Dalymount this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
some achievement missing two sitters in the away leg and then killing your chances off in the space of 90 seconds by lazy midefielders not tracking back.
perhaps your manager should have adopted the MON style of coaching instead.
still, you can concentrate on the league now, so all's well that ends well eh.;)
The Pats match tonight was horrible.
Half the crowd clapping the players while the other half booed.
Shocking night all around.
Hard luck to Sligo too.....
One thing I noticed before the Sligo game... The Vorskla players were casually taking up their positions around the pitch before kick-off. They just looked confident; the demanour oozed superiority. In contrast, the Sligo players could barely hold still for a team photo. Bar Joey Ndo, they were racing around like nervous wrecks. The game was probably lost psychologically before it even kicked off.
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Originally Posted by harleyleeds
You've gone quiet this evening. Are you prepared to admit your bluster was all rather outlandish now?Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
It's one achievement more than what Sligo did.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
While it was a good result the background to it was very similiar to Shels-Hajduk a few years before. KS were 20-odd million in debt, about to fold, not paying players, the main stars refusing to line out, Koller (who was magnificent all season beforehand) being punished for speaking out about not receiving 3 months wages. And basically the club was in the sh!t. Hajduk - heavily in debt, players not paid for 6 months, coach being told what to do, internal war and players boozing it up the night before the return leg. Much of a muchness.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
Pats did very well to get as far as they did this year, of all the LOI teams in Europe they overperformed and were a credit to our leagues. I hope they get back into Europe next year and get an even better run.
On the topic of full-time vs part-time, from my own experience it's not the amout of training or time you spend in the gym, it's recovery. As a part-timer you're not able to rest up after a hard work out, you have to go to the office or what have you. Plus You land into training straight after finishing your 9-5 and maybe haven't been able to eat properly, or be stressed to the nines etc. Ireland can sustain 8-10 pro clubs if there was a franchise system and it was run properly, though given how we can't even organise our banks and transport infrastructure something as simple as a sports league is never going to work.
Can they draw any of these teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
PAOK, Austria Vienna, Rosenborg or Metalist might be the best chances of getting through. Birmingham are in the sh*tter as well - that's a big possibility.
How do Rovers fans feel - do they think they can advance or are they looking for the high profile game?
Karpaty were the best side we've faced in Europe. maybe Steaua but I didn't see the away leg (just the goals).
The teams Rovers could get. Not easy, but sure we knew it wouldn't be.
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)Beşiktaş JK (TUR)FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)FK Partizan (SRB)
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...d=1656289.html
Got to be looking at Metalist if they want to progress, hard to see a way past the others, very slight outside chance against Partizan or Pana.
In that case, they'd be just as well off drawing Atletico, for the exposure, the experience and the crowd. I think that's a fair assessment.
Edit: Just looking at the groups and both seeds and unseeds, you can see just how big a ceiling the Irish clubs have to break through. Here's hoping!
The plucky Irish side knocked out one of the talented ball-playing Icelandic sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The Irish sides started at a later UEFA Cup round than the Icelandic sides - because they were higher seeded (one in the first, one in the second and one in the third for Ireland versus two in the first and one in the second for Iceland) - so not really a surprise that Icelandic teams won more games given they were playing against poorer opposition.
Zilina aren't Champions' League specialists - they've qualified once ever, and lost every game.
Rosenborg were already 5-0 up from the first leg, a score they didn't rack up against LoI opposition.
Other than that, your post was spot on...
our teams really need to score in away ties to have a chance against the bigger sides. not easy but. sligo had 2 great chances to score in ukraine but didnt. game over after 20 mins in sligo then. see who shams get in todays draw, will be tough to progress but at the least they will make some more money which is good for any LOI side.
Good spot PS, Zilina are a club at war with itself, they did well to get into the CL group, but I saw them being torn apart by Aiden and our non-scoring winger could have had 2-3 goals if he'd had a go than turning back around to beat the same man again.
It will end up being Metalist. Sure we can't get enough of the Ukraine!Quote:
Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani
Have to say that Partizan are nothing special at all. Genk beat them over two legs and Genk are not in the same league as Copenhagen for example I think. Saw the first leg - Genk were all over them, eventually won 2-1 after Partizan opened the scoring. They would have a fighing chance there imo.
No chance against the rest, they might put it up to Kharkiv for a while but Ukrainan opponents look too stong for Irish teams. ( no sh!t sherlock )
Damn, I was hoping it would Spurs. Redknapp has been talking as though he has no intention of playing his first team in the Europa.Quote:
Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani
From those teams, the big draw against Atleti would be nice. Partizan would be interesting. Their confidence can't be high but they'll fancy themselves big time against Rovers.. could be a good thing.
Are the goals from last night's games available to watch online anywhere yet? I just caught one of the goals against Sligo.
Just on Panathanaikos, I'd always wondered what the story was behind the shamrock in their crest. Turns out it may have (somewhat) Irish roots. According to Wikipedia:
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In 1918, player Michalis Papazoglou proposed that the club adopt the shamrock as its emblem. He used to have it sewn on his shirt since he was competing for a club in his native Chalcedon, Constantinople. Papazoglou was possibly inspired by William Sherring, an Irish Canadian athlete who had won the Athens 1906 Olympic Marathon wearing a white shirt with a big green shamrock on it.
I love that name \m/Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Just a pity they aren't from scandanavia.
Sligo were very unlucky though. That second goal was a clear goal. And kirbys miss was ridiculous. It could have been 2-0 then. And in the second half over there Vorskla never looked like scoring. It really could have been very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better, but apart from that...excellent."Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Not quite....Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
"Is there any overt Irish connection there, given their crest and green strip, or is it, as my mate claimed in the pub during one drunken Champions League viewing, that Greece is the only place outside Ireland where shamrock grows?"
Much as it pains us to say it - for we love a good yarn more than most - neither story is true.
In 1918 Panathinaikos chose the shamrock - or trifylli as it's known in Greece - as their emblem on the suggestion of Mihalis Papazoglou, an athlete from Constantinople who played for Chalkidona, and Chalkidona had the same symbol. The idea was accepted by Panathinaikos's council and confirmed as the team's official badge.
One goal scored in six games in the last round by Pats, Sligo and Sham Rovers combined. Still can't get over that Kirby miss in the Ukraine.
Paul O'Shea is having kittens reading all the abuse Geysir is getting. Retribution.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
Haha, me? Petty? I wouldn't say so.
Geysir doesn't ever get what i'm getting at, so its all lost.
I'm sure he knew what he was doing posting that, and I'd also say he got the reaction he was looking for.
Rovers are the lowest ranked team in today's draw.
Of the 38 seeds, the lowest ranked 10 of the 38 are:
Red Bull Salzburg
Rosenborg
Lokomotiv Moscow
PAOK
Birmingham City
Stoke City
Rennes
Austria Wien
Rapid Bucureşti
Partizan
Group 1
Seeded
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
Beşiktaş JK (TUR)
FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
FK Partizan (SRB)
Unseeded
FC Sochaux-Montbéliard (FRA)
Vitória SC (POR)
FC Alania Vladikavkaz (RUS)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)
so the groups are there and then only those can play eachtoher. Well its obvious they will get atletico. Didn't panathainakos lose at home badly in the last round? Metalist or partizan would have to be the hope.
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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
yes danney i was way off the mark Rovers obviously never had a chance . Bit sad for you that this is what makes you happy but then just being someone who has never and will never have a club of your own slagging off others is as good as it will get for you . yes i am sickened at the loss, yes i thought we could win the game based on the performance last week but we never turned up and poltava were quite a few classes above us. The thing is danney i now look forward to my team in the other competitions they have left and if it isnt too outlandish to say i think they can still win the league and or the cup. you on the other hand have nothing but more criticising of teams and or fans who dont share your opinion. the thing about supporting your team is you can be as outlandish as you want but you not having a team to support will never have that pleasure. I will follow my team to the day i die through good days and ones like yesterday and am proud of the effort they put in against the ukranians (turns out they werent in the same class) ,next up Dundalk away. Danny i think we can beat them away and i hope im not being to outlandish for you but really follow your local gaa team it would suit you better than having no team. I make no appologies for making any claims about my teams capabilities wheither you like them or not , they are mine and im entitled to my opinion right or wrong . when we sat down to watch the game yesterday and saw the great work done by the lads on the Showgies before getting a lesson in football I was very proud to be a Rovers fan and after said lesson still just as proud . So danney I dont think my claims were outlandish just an over excited fan not seeing past the pride he has in the ROVERS , simple mistake really for someone with a team to love.
How is the seeding decided? It just seems odd that Birmingham are seeded, they're a championship side
I don't think Detective Inspector was saying that at all. Just that you were talking through your hat without knowning anything about the other team.
But this is a common theme amongst - some i must state- LOI fans to those who dont support any club, you get the back up like a cat, and crawl behind your rock, become somewhat insular and revert to type - the age old Im better than you because I support a LOI club and you don't, barstooler, not a proper supporter etc etc. The thing is though, most on here wont actually see this and just "think/say" I don't know what im talking about - which is kinda exactly my point.
Quiet you, we're guests in here, don't go spoiling it for the rest of us.
It's amazing what belief and confidence an 8-0 win at your rivals gives you. You believe you're invincible, and then reality soon crashes down on top of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
Remind me how many goals you thought Shams could score against Kobenhavn again?
Can Rovers get Spartak Moscow? If so it's happy days! Except for Thompson!
Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL) v FK Partizan (SRB)
Home leg first against Partizan! Stinger.
Partizan. First leg in Tallaght.
Oh crap - worse again! Ah well, at least Belgrade is a lovely city with cheap booze and nightlife. And at least it's not Red Star!