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He'll be gone before then I'd imagine. His contract does expire at the end of the year, but we are entitled to compensation if he does leave. He wasn't involved at all last night, so I think its fair to say he won't be around much longerQuote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
How do you make that one out, is it not the club that the player first started off with aka Bray who would be entitled to compensation from ye but now that hes moving from ye to middlesboro, possibly for free then is it not free?! Im not to up to date with the under 23/compensation rules but my bad if im wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
I'm not fully sure but I think Galway are entitled to compensation because they've developed him as a player over the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black and White
Bray would be entitled to a cut of the transfer fee if an offer is made by the buying club, which is accepted by Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black and White
In the case of O'Shea contract expiring compensation would be due to Galway only, as long as the player has been at the club for 2 years and is offered a contract by Galway of the same value as his previous one within a certain time frame. I am unsure if the two year rule applies to seasons or calendar years. He signed for Galway on 20/12/07.
Here's an extract of the rules:
League of Ireland Premier Division clubs are in category 2, as far as I remember. Premier League clubs are category 1. The compensation fee for catergory 2 clubs is £40k. Can't remember what category 1 is, but it is obviously higher.Quote:
Article 6 Special provisions for the EU/EEA
1. For players moving from one association to another inside the territory
of the EU/EEA, the amount of training compensation payable shall be
established based on the following:
a) If the player moves from a lower to a higher category club, the
calculation shall be based on the average training costs of the
two clubs;
b) If the player moves from a higher to a lower category, the
calculation shall be based on the training costs of the lowercategory
club.
2. Inside the EU/EEA, the fi nal season of training may occur before the
season of the player’s 21st birthday if it is established that the player
completed his training before that time.
3. If the former club does not offer the player a contract, no training
compensation is payable unless the former club can justify that it is
entitled to such compensation. The former club must offer the player
a contract in writing via registered post at least 60 days before the
expiry of his current contract. Such an offer shall furthermore be at
least of an equivalent value to the current contract. This provision is
without prejudice to the right to training compensation of the player’s
previous club(s).
If a player has been with a club as a professional for two seasons whilst 23 or under the club is entitled to compensation if he leaves at the end of his contract. Bray would get a cut if he's sold I think along with whoever his schoolboy clubs were. If he leaves for compensation and is subsequently sold then Bray and Galway and his schoolboy clubs would be in line for a payment again.
Edit: More or less as Dman says!.
Just for further clarification on when previous clubs get a cut of the transfer deal:
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...529&Itemid=318
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Compensation & Solidarity Payments
- Compensation Payments conclude when a player's training is completed
- Thereafter, Solidarity Payments are applicable if a player is transferred during contract
- Example: If Michael Owen had moved from Liverpool to AC Milan at age 19, when out of contract, training compensation payment would have been payable by Milan to Liverpool.
Solidarity Payments
If the same move had occurred when the player was in contract, the transfer fee would have been negotiable and 5% of this amount would then have been distributed pro-rata to all clubs involved in his training since the age of 12
Galway fans,could John Russell play CCC or L1?Very impressed by him!
Not sure if he's Championship level, I think League One would be his max. We don't want to let him go though!Quote:
Originally Posted by longfordjames
Just watch the highlights of yer games on youtube,he ran the Bray game and 1st half of Sligo.
Aaron Shanahan was in goals tonight for us against Atletico Madrid, very impressive so he was. Anyone know if he's signed or what? Used to play with Dundalk I think?
O'Shea apparently having a medical in Birmingham tomorrow.
Don't know if he's signed or not but he looked very good. He's a free agent I think so we could sign him outside the window if he hasn't signed already. He was with Athlone for a while earlier this season I think.
Fairplay to him! He must have worked hard at his game.
He was poor at Kilkenny City, tbh. Very enthusiastic lad though.
Alan Mannus has apparently signed for Shamrock Rovers.
If only Mannus could have seen into the future, he'd have signed a contract with Linfield.
Great keeper.
very interesting. what does this mean for barry murphy? mannus was in england on trial there for a division 2 team but he wasn't signed, so doesn't say a lot about the guy but then when i heard that rovers had signed it seemed like a fairly 'big' signing because i've heard much about him
To be honest, I'm surprised no one took the chance. But I can tell you, he was a level above any keeper I have seen in the Irish League or Setanta cup for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
Shamrock Rovers have got themselves a brilliant keeper. Some people just don't get the same lucky opportunities as others.
Glenn Ferguson for example never got the opportunity to play across the water yet Andy Smith did. Ferguson is 10 times the player.
Just the way the cookie crumbles some times.
Rovers have now got the best domestic goalkeeper on this island.
Brian Murphy would give him a good run for that title IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Some Rovers fans believe they already have the best keeper in Ireland.
Good signing - I wonder if he will still get called up to the N Irish international squad while playing at Rovers.
Some Rovers fans always believe they have the best keeper in IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie
Good keeper, most Dundalk fans would have liked him to have stayed on this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by De Town
i can't agree with that, simply by using other players as a yardstick. Jay O'Shea has a host of relatively top teams after him(birmingham, middlesboro), and wouldn't even consider joining some league two outfit(the team mannus was at was bradford) and Murphy is far and away better than O'Shea in his respective position imo. Murphy is probably the best player in LOI let alone keeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
When Brian Murphy leaves Bohs, it will be to a much higher standard team than Bradford(or shamrock rovers for that matter)
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Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
called up today
Some Roves fans believe they have their own ground as well :) Seriously I would rate Murphy (rovers vintage) but not higher than Brian Murphy who is possibly the best keeper I have seen in the LOI, I have no doubt that Brian Murphy will make the Oirland squad as soon as he goes to England, Surprised at Rovers signing anorher keeper to be honest unless the current incumbent in on his way outQuote:
Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie
I would reckon Rovers goalkeeping coach Tommy Wright would've had a say on signing Mannus. With Wright being a keeper himself and from watching Mannus every season for the last few years he'll know whether he is above the quality which is already at Tallaght.
I wish Alan Mannus all the best but can't help think that he took a chance and it back fired on him. I dare say though that if Linfield ever meet Rovers whilst Mannus is in goal, that he'll get a great reception from the Bluemen.
IMO Mannus is better than Murphy. Can't see Murphy being dropped for him though, which would lead me to assume he's on the way out. It'd be a strange decision for Mannus if he's just going to sit on the bench. Any idea what he was on at Linfield? Can't really be much different from what he'll be getting at Tallaght.
O'Neill has dropped Murphy before and tried to offload him...
Jay o shea on his way to birmingham
http://www.bcfc.com/page/News/NewsDe...742951,00.html
I just read it on the Skysports website but theres no mention of a fee there either.Anyone know even approx how much we got for him??Im glad its finally over,been going on for a year now.
Hasnt signed yet but probably will. Decent keeper, pity things didnt work outQuote:
Originally Posted by eamoss
for him with us.
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Originally Posted by brendy_éire
I think he was on around 25k per year.
What happened there?. He looks a better keeper than John McGuinness from what I've seen of both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
That all :eek: thought he would of been on alot more than that!Quote:
Originally Posted by belfastred
That wouldn't be hard, in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
I think Curtis Allen ( bust his ankle in a friendly last night!) is the highest paid player now in the Irish League on around 40k although I think Gary Hamilton might not be far behind that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Betting Man
Most Linfield full-timers are on around 25k
Don't forget that within the last year, the value of sterling has dropped consdierably
rumours in Tallaght that Graham Barrett has signed for Rovers today.
bhs
E100k plus add-ons I think. Nothing confirmed as regards the fee yet though, and Leeson will probably keep it under wraps anyways. It will probably go down as undisclosedQuote:
Originally Posted by eamo1
Fact ,he has signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Still getting ripped off then. he's signing for a Premiership side, but they are paying Conference fees. I know he's not proven, but if they think he is good enough to sign for a top-flight team in a major European league, he's worth more than €100k - even if his contract is expiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000