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Absolutely. But as you say, if he - or Boyle or Hoban or others - were good enough, then they'd have found another club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I expect UCD to thrive next season. That doesn't prove that the Premier is worse than the First
Its the suggestion that, based on the idiotic view that football tactics are somehow "one size fits all" when it comes to the players in those tactics which is quite frankly a baffling view to have and I hope nobody ever takes the opinions of people with that view seriously when it comes to football, returning to the LOI on loan, which is important because Preston could have easily just released him from his contract early, somehow categorically means he isn't good enough for league 1 when it is possible, if not likely that Preston's hierarchy have got offers in from League 1 clubs and Rovers and have decided that there's no point sending him out somewhere where he won't be given the opportunity to do what they signed him for in the first place so the best option is to allow him to go to a team that they know play in a way that will allow him to flourish, worst case scenario from their point of view is they still don't want him but his value goes up a bit from where it is now. From a Preston view if you want Burke to play in a team that can play in a way that suits him your choices are limited, another championship team doesn't make sense from their viewpoint, what League 1 managers say in August and what they're doing by October can be very different, the continent has always been sort of mistrusted by english clubs, then there's Rovers who you know will play a way that will help Burke play to his potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Anyway is this not what we want as a league? English clubs are now looking at out league as a place where their more technical players that might struggle with the more agricultural lower leagues can thrive. Can only help the image of the league and also helps keep players here longer.
As an aside noticed in Dan McDonnells recent indo piece that he says Dundalk are now offering contracts worth around 100,000 a yeah, good to see that clubs are now beginning to be able to afford to pay players wages that allow them to make a good living from the league.
Once again displaying an amazing aptitude to completely miss the pointQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Lumping the individual choices of players and clubs together without really knowing what the true circumstances are, a big assumption that is pointless...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
100k is good money but when said as 2k per week it doesnt sound just so frightening.
The only competitor for basketcase finance of clubs to LOI is league one. Coventry play 70 miles away in Northampton or 20 miles away in Birmingham, Bury not allowed play, Bolton unpaid and staff going to foodbanks, Charlton, Sunderland, Portsmouth and Blackpool all exist in league one or are just promoted. They're the big clubs, not the Southends...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The TV money is bigger, the losses are also bigger - 52 EFL clubs lost money last year. We are only six months since Charlton's owner demanded the EFL takeover the club and before that had Maxi-like fans going over to protest in Belgium. And that was a club in the playoffs!
The LOI is sane by comparison.
I was born in London and am a life long Charlton fan. I was at one of those protests in Belgium. It is incredibly disingenuous to compare the very organised and legal actions taken by various protest groups (CARD, Belgian 20 being the main two) to one nutjob threatening to set himself and a christmas tree on fire. The protests in Belgium have been consisent over the past several years and are largely unrelated to the teams performance. Protests died down last year as it was believed the owner was making a real effort to sell the club but it has become clear that he has unrealistic requirements in any sale and protests will be scaled back up again soon I believe, though no longer at games as whole those get media attention they don't impact the owner as he has only been to one game since taking over in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx-
Several of the individuals involved in CARD (Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet) in particular are very savvy and experienced, and were heavily involved in the Valley Party in the early 1990s that put pressure on Greenwich council to allow planning permission to redevelop the Valley which had fallen into disrepair forcing the club to spend years playing at Selhurst Park and Upton Park.
The situation at Charlton could be called insane and I wouldn't dispute that, but its the owner whos actions are insane, not the very rational, organised fanbase. The owner just this week was on Talksport explaining why he has been unable to sell the club and effectively said anyone who wanted to buy a Championship club is foolish as all you will do is lose money. This is just one of his many bizarre statements over the past five years.
I wouldn't disagree, it's absolutely no fault of the fans and some of them are going to incredible lengths up and down that league. The fact that the clubs are so badly run and the EFL let them do it so fans have to do that is mad.
Whether it's SISU, Duchatelet, Oyston, Ken Anderson or the others at different times, it's the fans that lose out and they are the ones left to pick up the damage. Some Blackpool fans hadn't seen their club play for five years, team performance was not a consideration either.
Some Coventry fans won't go to home games so as not to fund SISU's legal rampage, they will go to the away games and can travel in larger numbers away than at home.
Transfers thread people
Not to take this thread off topic, but missed here the other day Harps signed Ruairi Harkin from Cliftonville for his second spell at the club.
Jesus, what do you think this is, a transfers thread or something? Back in your lane Nigel!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
But is Harkin too good for Division 1 ? Or too technical ? You can't just come on hear posting about transfers. Shame on you NigelQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
bohs have signed ex town goalie mick kelly but his contract expired. he was on trial with QPR but that fell through as one unnamed loi club was asking for 400k for their cut of the deal!
Hes over 23 and out of contract no no money needed no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Any use?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IriH3dsAT_IQuote:
Originally Posted by David BOHie
Was brilliant for Longford last season, he's got the best distribution I've seen from any keeper in this league, especially out of his hands, he kicks this lovely flat long ball straight to his target, we scored several goals from it last season. Brilliant shot stopper but my only criticism of him is for an absolute unit of a man he is very suspect under a high ball at timesQuote:
Originally Posted by David BOHie
Has Niall Corbet left Bohs?
Anyone hear any news on Zach Elbouzedi? He's out of contract with Waterford end of this season, Dundalk were meant to have made an offer last month which was rejected, no idea on details or if an improved offer will be made.
He will also have UK options I`m sure, but that would have to be from 1st Jan only.
heard shamrock rovers were looking for their slice of the deal so by my reckoning he would be below age 23 imo when he was with them. Cabinteely were looking as well for their slice also!Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
July 96 would put him as over 23 now and if he's only signing now if a team really wanted him I doubt compensation would be the issue, I'd also be very very skeptical of anyone claiming a LOI club were looking for anywhere near 400k development money and even if they were that QPR wouldn't then take their chances at a tribunal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II