That's even more disrespectful! Comparing them to the Jocks, indeed :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
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That's even more disrespectful! Comparing them to the Jocks, indeed :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Or a Nova ScotiaQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Working at a decent level perhaps? What respect does a League Two manager command from top level players?Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Haha very good!Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
David Moyes?
Denis O'Brien, can you hear me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Keiran mckenna when he got Ipswich job seemed a massive gamble was basically a youth team coach and then a coach associated with what at the time seemed like poor man utd management regimes
Somewhat connectedly, looks like Erik Ten Hag's about to be unemployed too. But I've never seen any indication that either would fancy international football, let alone with Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
The new QPR head coach / manager as well. No playing CV. Had managed provincial clubs in Spain, Denmark & Norway, then the Hammarby job in the Swedish league, bigger job but not exactly huge or financially unattainable. Onto QPR who were six points adrift of safety on his arrival, comfortably stayed up & showed play off form since soon after he arrived. Hammered Leeds 4.0 the other night to seal it & wrote off Leeds automatic hopes. These guys are out there, and I mistakenly believed we were looking for one, and mistakenly believed we had a guy capable of locating one also.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
SSN were reporting yesterday that Bayern have made contact with Ten Hag's agent. hard to believe but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Moyes is end of career so might not fancy a meaningful drop down in club standard. Maybe international appeals? Might be a job going in Glasgow soon depending on how the next 2 weeks pan out!
Have to assume the Bayern links are a wind-up of some kind. Just looking at the injury catastrophe Ten Hag has overseen in terms of training/physio this season is enough to wonder what he's at in terms of top-level management.
I'll admit, I wouldn't be totally adverse to talking a gamble on someone like Moyes, but the money presumably isn't there.
Only person really gambling in that situation is Moyes. Doubt he's that desperate he'll take the Ireland job. Think he'll put the feet up for a bit before taking the Scotland in 2026 unless Clarke leaves earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Hull have sacked Liam Rosenior for some bizarre reason. Must assume there's been a falling out because he was doing a good job. He's more along our line of gettable managers and even then Championship clubs will be looking at him.
in more realistic terms, Liam Rosenior has been relieved of his duties at Hull
I think he would do a good job
Amazingly, I would again doubt we could get him. He's very young and will be snapped up by a championship team
I think the problem for the fai is if they unveiled somebody like mckenna at the stage of career when he was at utd people would say they were just trying to save money and hadn't a clue. If it went well then like mckenna at Ipswich people would say Fai just got lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
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Originally Posted by liamoo11
Id fooking love it if we were being accused of getting lucky!!!
Steady !Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Ah yes, the FAI. A great bunch of lads who usually get things right and are unfairly criticized quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
After putting his Aberdeen nightmare behind him to lead Dundee United to the Scottish Championship title, would Jim Goodwin be worth a look?
Aberdeen are a bit of a Head-The-Ball club anyway ~ So anybody can be excused for having a nightmare there !Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Why not? If a mediocre Championship player can bolster his international future with a few goals against the likes of Livingston, St Johnstone and Ross County why not apply the same leap of fantasy to a manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
To be fair, any amount of bolstering is welcome at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Japan and South Korea seem quite happy with their players getting a few goals against the likes of Livingston, St. Johnstone and Ross CountyQuote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Well, it's hardly comparable to UEFA qualifiers, considering the opposition for Japan and South Korea are the likes of Myanmar, Thaliand, Singapore and Syria.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
On Goodwin, I think he needs a prolonged good spell in the SPL to properly re-establish his reputation.
I saw Ronny Deila in the stands at Celtic on Saturday. I wouldn't be averse to him. Curate's egg of a CV but still young enough and probably within budget. Thoughts?
My instinct is that a previously approached candidate will get the job though, after the Euros.
Has a decent win percentage throughout his management career, albeit a bit skewed by his time at Celtic when they were in the middle of that nine in a row and there was no one really capable of challenging them. European club form not especially impressive. He's OK, but doesn't ever seem to have had that really standout tenure where he did something really special, bar what he did with his earliest management roles in Norway, and that was a while ago now.
With the championship playoffs underway 3 of the 4 managers are likely to get the boot after a somewhat successful season
Carlos Corberán, Daniel Farke, David Wagner and Russell Martin. I don't know much about Martin or Corberán but I'd say Wagner or Farke would be good for for us if they became available.
Corberan would be too, but I doubt we could afford any of them. I'd pass on Martin (not that we could afford him either!). Incidentally Corberan is maybe an exception in that list as he has significantly overachieved to get West Brom into the playoffs and they'd be mad to let him go if they don't go up.
I wouldn't touch Martin with a barge pole - for anyone following Southampton and the development of Bazunu this season, it is clear that Martin does not know how to defend. If Southampton win promotion they will be obliterated in the PL because they cannot defend. Martin would be Stephen Kenny on steroids in terms of how he would set up the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Corberan is the polar opposite - I think that WBA would put up a decent account of themselves - despite having a much weaker squad than Southampton - because Corberan knows how to organise a defence (i would regard him as a younger version of Chris Hughton).
Both Farke and Wagner fall between both of those - and would be a quality hire.
The problem is that if any of those are sacked - which they shouldn't be if the owners have any sense - I think they will all be in demand.
Canada just appointed Jesse Marsch - which I think is a good appointment for Canada, but in comparison to Corberan, Farke and Wagnar, - Marsch is not in the same league. It is possible that we are in the Marsch territory.
Sinking (wink) !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Norwich's Wagner has just been sacked.
He could be tempted. I hear he's a bit of a mercenary.
Valkyries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRU1AJsXN1g
He could get a tune from some of our players.
FAI won't be hiring Robbie straight from Israel. They're not gonna bring that attention onto themselves and make what's gonna be a pain in the ass managerial search even worse by having press conferences constantly talking about Israel.
Instead they'd rather hire confirmed racist Sagnol?Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
That can be dealt with as required - rightly or wrongly - by Sagnol showing regret and having learnt from mistakes (see Malky Mackay in Scotland after all those text messages, he's been hired by Ross County, the SFA and most recently just this week by Hibs).Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Whereas bringing Keane straight in from Israel would be an absolute PR disaster.
Claiming Keane taking a job in Israel is a worse transgression than Sagnols comments is bizarre. Both would need to be addressed to some degree but Sagnol has a steeper hill to climb by far. FWIW, I could live with Sagnol as Irish manager if he demonstrated some growth and remorse.
I don't know that I'm saying one is a worse transgression than the other. To be honest I don't know enough about the Sagnol situation and background to take a view on that.
What I do know is that he's currently manager of another international team, so presumably the PR side of what happened with him is manageable. Whereas, right now, the combination of Keane's employment location and Irish views on the Gaza conflict - particularly those of Irish football supporters - make employing him a virtual impossibility from a PR point of view.
Rightly or wrongly people won't boycott games because of Sagnol's history, provided that he can demonstrate contrition. Whereas I genuinely think a lot of people would boycott Ireland under Keane right now regardless of what he says or what spin the FAI might try to put on it.
One man took a job when no one else was offering and another thinks that Africans need Nordics in the team to help them.... these 2 things are not the same
But you are offering a view. An ill informed one by your own admission, but that hasn't stopped you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Sagnol had a big employment gap & washed up in Georgia, a place with a long hard road ahead of it in race relations terms.
He has never shown genuine contrition. Never owned it.
Fans won't boycott you reckon, and even if you're right, what about the lads with African heritage, proudly representing Ireland today ? They're supposed to just shut up & pretend everything is OK yeah ? Shouldn't that impact be a consideration around a candidate with his past ?