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Agree with this, also because he's not a west ham player, they won't be playing him to help his development, really think he needed to go somewhere where he'd have automatically been first choice. Leeds would of made senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic
With every higher position in the PL at the end of season being worth £3m (TV/Merit etc), even if safe from relegation, there remains every incentive to gain as many points as possible - esp at a club run and owned by such deeply unpleasant, unscrupulous people as at WHU.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Meaning that any (otherwise understandable) sentiment Potter may have of giving the likes of Ferguson regular starts in the run-in will cut no ice with the Board.
Meaning Ferguson will likely either have to smash it in training, and/or hope for injuries, and/or wait for the team to go on a losing run.
P.S. I see that EF came on after 73 mins - with the game safe enough, Potter resting Kudus for their next game?
Got about 20 minutes. 4th sub on for WH. Showed some nice touches here and there. However he had one clear chance one on one where he was slipped in by Bowen. Made a bags of it and it was blocked before even testing the keeper. Needs to go somewhere in the summer he has a strong chance of starting games and hopefully the goals will follow. Championship probably.
17minutes + 5 minutes of injury time ~ ~ Tis something anyway.
I’m not too worried. A bit of a reality check that it’s not just Brighton leaving him out could do Ferguson some good in terms of what it takes to be a premier league player. The raw ingredients are still there.
he really needed to do better with that chance. didn't need to score but at least needed to make the keeper work...
You missed the point of what I said. Bazunu went somewhere he was guaranteed to play. Of course you can have conversations in the background of only agreeing to go to a club if they are going to actually play you. As I said, I understand West Ham dont care, but Fergusons camp should have done a better job of having the conversation before he went to the club and if there was any doubt that he was going to be starting then maybe he should have gone somewhere in Holland or Belgium for example to get game time. Between the injury and competition for places at Brighton he has no football in a year. He has to just get minutes under his belt. The whole way this has been handled from Fergusons camps side is just baffling... and might only get worse if Fullkrug gets fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic
Part of me thinks it is early doors. Let's see how it goes.
The other part of me saw him have a very good half against Brentford - 45 mins - and then go onto get 27 mins across the next two games and think it's all a bit disappointing. Particularly when he was brought in as almost their sole striking option and they've gone on to play without a striker for the games in question.
Two games now before the international break for West Ham. I hope he doesn't have only a bit part in those.
If he had moved to a new club permanently Id agree that its still early days and he'll probably play his way in. That theres only about 2 and half months left in the season and hes just wasted another month is the issue really. Hopefully he can force his way in, you could see the rust with that chance he missed yesterday. A sharp Ferguson would have taken one touch and finished, it was the sign of a player lacking in confidence and match sharpnessQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
But he is getting minutes. "Conversations" have no legal binding, even handshakes are worthless (ask Kenny Dalglish). No club manager will guarantee starts. When was a club ever sued because a loanee didn't get x amount of "agreed" starts? I think it's possible, however, for the player and/or his owner club to apply for a loan annulment after a certain period if they feel aggrieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Bazunu: how do you know he was guaranteed starts?
Bazunu didn't end up at a random place like Liege by accident genius
A good performance last week saved his bacon. Liege fans starting to whinge. Expectations yes. Guarantees no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Sure he could be hit by a bus in the morning
Always best to keep your fitness and reflexes up to avoid that scenario ~ Which is why I have never been hit by a bus, yet !Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Doubt it would be the case with either of these two given how established they are and their wage levels but you do get loans with significant financial penalties ie:
Liverpool loan Ben Doak to Boro. They agree to pay 50% of his wages as long as he plays 70% of the minutes he’s fit and available for and if he doesn’t reach that threshold then Boro need to repay the money
Ferguson wasn't match fit when he arrived so Potter put him on the bench. Unfortunately for him, WH seem to be winning recently, so Potter has decided not to change team much. Unlucky for Evan, but I reckon he will get a run in the team before the end of the season
You would think that it would be a good idea for Potter to play Ferguson, if for no other reason to show that he chose a good player to take on loan !Quote:
Originally Posted by Drummerboy2
Or, if he's flying in training, don't play him to keep his value down with a view to a summer transfer.
Machiavelli style thinking there !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
It would take a hell of a lot of self control from Ferguson to go along with that kind of thinking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler