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At least it's going to make the coming few days interesting...
Lads, I know its hard at the moment, but lets try look at the positives for Thursday. Jon Walters played 90 mins today. Matt Doherty, jeff, Coleman, clark, Duffy and ward are all premier league players. Randy is the best keeper in the championship. Mclean and Meyler both have hearts of lions. Callum Robinson and Kevin Long are genuinely very very good players. We have a track record of pulling unlikely results out of nowhere. Keep the faith.
Very true - right now we have three Premier League Right-Backs, three Premier League Centre-halfs and two Premier League left-backs, plus John Egan whose career is steadily moving forwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
On paper our midfield looks thin with only Hendrick in the Premier League. But as you said McClean and Meyler have the hearts of lions, plus they have enough EPL experience that it won't really affect their performances with us in the short run if they're playing in The Championship (it might even help if they're getting more gametime). Brady and Mccarthy will come back from injury but in the meantime, it gives the likes of O'Dowda, Browne, Horgan, Lenihan, Hourihane and Judge the chance to prove themselves - Browne in particular seems to have really come along in his development in the last year. Although, if it does turn out that Arter left due to a bust-up with Keane, then it's time for a serious chat with our Assistant Manager about the true meaning of Professionalism.
Up front, Long will always cause problems for defences and Walters showed against the USA that there's still life in the old warhorse - and Callum Robinson's decision (unprompted by the management team) to join the cause, combined with Graham Burke's good start at Preston, has come at the perfect time to give us some depth in the absence of Maguire and Hogan, although I think we could have used a newly-resurgent David McGoldrick to plug that gap - I feel that he has a couple of goals in him, given the right opportunity.
If Rice goes, it will definitely be a big disappointment, but not a catastrophe - we can look at Tommie Hoban, Jimmy Dunne and Derrick Williams as central defenders, with Conor Masterson, Lee O'Connor and Ryan Nolan looking close to a breakthrough. And who knows? Maybe he'll watch us play Wales and think "what am I doing? I should be out there playing" and return to the fold.
this statement would make keane a hero in most fans eyes..... not a villain as you suggestQuote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Squad named and there's no Arter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Would anybody object to bringing back Big Mick at this stage? I've defended O'Neill for as long as i can. This circus has to stop, and it won't stop while either O'Neill or Keane are in the job.
I'm all for bringing back Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
My only concern would be if they Keano fan boys in the media would give him a fair go.
when have the Irish media ever given any Irish manager a "fair go"?Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
i loved micks reign as Irish manager but it was marked by constant negativity in the media
Are there any left now?Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
Have the Irish media ever given anyone a fair crack of the whip?
Kerr's honeymoon period lasted until the 2-2 draw with Israel at home
We have limited enough options to choose from at International level IF (and it still remains 'if') the actions of Roy Keane or any other member of the management team is further limiting the pool we select from then the FAI must step in.
Put someone in charge who will try and play football.
I'd be keen on change but not for one of the usual suspects.
I questioned you before but I’m starting to think you may be on to something. It certainly seems there’s something going on in the campQuote:
Originally Posted by Cathalsmart
The more I think about it though, the more I think it’s not a massive deal. Unless it got personal.
Teams have arguments all the time.
If Arter and Keane had an argument about the game, it tells me that they both care. And the mentality and spirit of the team in many of our games has seemed very strong. We’ve gotten results where we probably had no business getting results at times (Germany, Italy, really putting it up to France who should have won the Euros and deservedly won the World Cup).
It’s hard to know. As I said, unless something got personal (which Keane is capable of to be fair) I can’t see a real problem about two people arguing over tactics/mistakes in a game.
To be honest any player who walks away to consider options, concentrate on the club career etc etc, are not going to be much good to us anyway. We lack the individual ability of the better nations but might just be able to make up for some of it by passion.
Can we keep this discussion to established facts? Speculation about what was said doesn't do anybody any favours
The fact is the country needs him and he is not coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I meant speculation on the subject of the argument between Keane and ArterQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Palmer seems to know a lot more about the fall-out than the rest of the press, pinch of salt I suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Is that not an oxymoron ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Interesting poll split 50/50 at the bottom of one article on whether MON should get rid of Keane.
It means they'll get clicks from people on both sides of the argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
The independent is a total rag these days
Ive a feeling that if we get a few more crap results, Keane will be offered up as a sacrificial lamb. ( Keane deserves to be sacked, but I think this will be done by Mon to buy time for himself)
All quotes taken from this article, because clickbait is not journalism https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...-37299748.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
There's leaked audio of an interview with a supposed player in the squad describing what went down between Keane and Walters / Arter.
Sounds like Stephen Ward, fairly tame stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
Can we hear this leaked audio?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ST...ature=youtu.beQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Fairly tame an assistant manager going out of his way to insult and pick a fight with two senior squad members? Effing and blinding and calling one a c*** and that if he had his way he wouldn't be picked? That's brutal management, sorry. I know industrial language is used in football but it's the tone and the intent that's the issue here.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
What is Keane adding to the setup? There is obviously a toxic environment in the camp right now. Funny that his bullyboy tactics might have worked with Arter but he wasn't long backing down from Walters. Keane should be got rid of asap.
Harry Arter wouldn’t last long in Oasis.
That’s definitely Ward alright.
There’s no way that’s acceptable.
Roy needs to apologise if he’s to last in that set up.
Otherwise it undermines the whole management team nd creates a bad atmosphere.
If that is really Ward, this audio will prompt a lot of questions of O'Neill, Keane, Arter, and Walters.
And if the bones of it are verified, you'd have to wonder if Keane can even stay on.
There’s no question in my mind that that’s Stephen Ward.
recorded and sent around to the squads whatsapp group apparentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Ooh who’s the rat?! 🐀Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
McGeady - Jefkin and Daryl Murphy involved 2 years ago..
https://twitter.com/i/status/1039151508602798081
Off the Ball > https://twitter.com/i/status/1039099172631314432
I just checked there and I don't think Ward was in the squad for any of the summer game Turkey/ Frnace/ USA
Is that correct?