Actually, make that secondary priority. I've just seen him interviewed on SSN and I was lucky if I could understand every third word. ;)
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Actually, make that secondary priority. I've just seen him interviewed on SSN and I was lucky if I could understand every third word. ;)
Any ratings I saw gave him as 6 same as the rest of the team, I mean basically they are chasing man u most of the time I would imagine, so nobody is gonna look very good.
Substituted after 61 minutes against Doncaster. Injured or just hauled off?
Wingers are often the first to be taken off. I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as his attacking game hasn't been great the past year or so and Wigan were looking to go forward in a game they really should be winning.
McClean started on the bench for Wigan today at home to Middlesborough but has been brought on for the last 25 minutes or so in place of Grant Holt.
Meanwhile, came across this article were he attributes his decision to move in part to Sunderland fan opinion: http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/231303.html
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Wigan winger James McClean has revealed his decision to leave Sunderland was down to the club's fans hounding him out of the Stadium of Light.
McClean, 23, moved to the Championship side for Ł1.5 million earlier in the month after becoming surplus to requirements under Black Cats manager Paolo Di Canio.
Despite earning the club's Young Player of the Year award in his first season after arriving from Derry City in 2011, the Ireland international struggled to recapture the same form last term.
However, McClean, who was involved in a handful of off-field controversies during his time on Wearside, claims that his exit was down to fan opinion, rather than being based on his performances on the pitch.
"Leaving the club was nothing to do with how I was playing," McClean told the Evening Chronicle. "But it was definitely needed. My time was up at Sunderland, that's why I asked to leave.
"It's never nice when your own fans are booing you before you even get on the pitch. The season before I was the best thing since sliced bread."
Many fans are notoriously fickle, especially in the northeast of England when their club is struggling, but were they on his case because he was crap or for other non-footballing issues ? If every player changed club when the fans booed him, it would be an even greater merry-go-round than it already is in England.
maybe it came from his refusal to wear the poppyQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Doubt it. Fans are prepared to overlook just about any indiscretion if the player does the business on the field.
Have S'land mates who were totally behind James, but read a lot of cr*p from the Mackems about this and DiCanio which doesn't put a lot of them in a very good light.
Ignorant, intolerant and hypocritical are just three words that spring to mind.
Is opting not to display a poppy to be considered an indiscretion now?Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
A lot of Sunderland fans were very unforgiving as a result of that. I recall he was subjected to audible booing from his own fans that could be heard through the television upon his entry on to the field of play during a game in the immediate aftermath of that hullabaloo.
Wigan drawn alongside Rubin Kazan, Maribor and Zutte Waregem in the Europa League.
Doesn't seem like a tough group. Kazan will probably top that easily enough (got a win against Spurs last season didn't they? Or was that the season before? I think they beat Inter 3-0 too). Hopefully Wigan would be a lot better than Maribor and Zutte Waregem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
If for example Gareth Bale had refused to wear a poppy I doubt many Spurs fans would boo him
Who's to know? It would undeniably stir a fair bit of public comment, as any "show of rebellion" does around poppy season. Wasn't even the man of objectivity, Jon Snow, subjected to criticism a few years back for his refusal to wear a poppy whilst presenting the Channel 4 news?Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Spurs fans wouldn't get a chance to harass Bale though. Sure, isn't he AWOL in Madrid?
Are Spurs fans known for their nationalistic/jingoistic fervour anyway?
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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
No just saying if McClean had been outstanding the fans would not give a hoot about off the field stuff.
It was none of their business either way.
I think tricky's got a fair point tbh.
Last time I was at WHL there were more Star of Davids than any other flag, so I guess they're nationalistic but just in a way that few other British clubs are.
The bould James got a straight red for Wigan this morning.
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The Latics' James McClean was shown a straight red card in stoppage time.
A clash between winger McClean and Blackpool defender Gary Mackenzie was brought to the attention of referee Mark Haywood by his assistant, after it appeared McClean had been stamped on.
Poppy season's approachin'.
Oh, and good to see you back, Stu. ;)
McClean incident here at about 3:20ish but a lot of it is off camera.
http://www1.skysports.com/footballle...pool-1-0-wigan
Clearly something must have happened for McClean to get back on his feet so quickly!!!
What was McClean sent off for exactly? For taking a nasty elbow to the head and suffering a sneaky stamp by MacKenzie whilst on the deck? A player wouldn't get livid like McClean did for no reason. Is he supposed to have raised a hand to MacKenzie?
One of the worst referring decisions you will see, but I think it was the linesman who got him send off,
McClean did kind of square up to him by he didn't raise and arm or anything like that.
So basically he gets elbowed in the face, stamped on and then sent off for nothing!!!
I'm quite surprised McClean remains so calm under the circumstances.
You'll never guess what club MacKenzie started out with!
Ha ha, figures. Football League Show presenters were firmly in McClean's corner on it, officials got it all wrong, unless of course they have Ibrox leanings also. Maybe they ganged up :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Is it all about the poppy incident that McClean still gets hated on? e.g.https://twitter.com/JMcC_23/status/3...254976/photo/1
It's a wonder he keeps going back to Twitter - is it that addictive?
Won his appeal anyway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24636889
Big weekend ahead. Next up; the poppy appeal...Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
http://www.chrisbakerremovals.com/agif1.gif
Wigan away to Yeovil on Sunday so whatever McClean decides to do I don't think it will get as much publicity as last year. If he plays for Wigan tonight I wouldn't be surprised if he is not involved on Sunday which I think would be a smart move by the club. I hope he doesn't have to face this crap every year.
should be no poppies worn by anyone it's too political
Especially by a Derry man from the Creggan estate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
At least the Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane thread is now our dedicated poppy forum.
My how times have changed.
I see James has been left out of the Wigan squad playing away at Yeovil today. Word on Twitter is that he was sent home for refusal to wear a poppy: https://twitter.com/search?q=james%2...yah&f=realtime
Something from earlier in the week: http://www.independent.ie/incoming/j...-29725119.html
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JAMES McCLEAN will be working with his "Dad" when fellow Derryman Martin O'Neill takes control of the Ireland senior team, according to David Meyler.
“See your dad's taking over Ireland by the looks of the Irish press,” said Meyler in a Twitter chat with McClean.
And McClean (above) is more than happy that Roy Keane is part of the new management team.
“Obviously, everyone has their opinion. I think a player that was as good as Roy Keane to be in the Ireland set-up would be great,” was McClean's response to news that Keane is in the mix.
Meyler, who Keane signed for Sunderland when he was manager at the Stadium of Light, is also understandably pleased but limited himself to: “It will be interesting if it happens.”
I haven't seen anything resembling a reliable source for that story yet.
Nor I. Some on Twitter have reported he's actually at home in Derry, or at least was in Derry yesterday, so it may be a purely tactical decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
'Derry Daily' now reporting the story: http://www.derrydaily.net/2013/11/10...wearing-poppy/
Whether the 'Derry Daily' is a reliable source or not is another question.Quote:
Former Derry City winger James McClean was dropped by Wigan Athletic for their Sky Bet Championship game against Yeovil Town this afternoon for not wearing a Remembrance Poppy.
It is not the first time the Creggan man has refused to wear the emblem. The Republic of Ireland international received death threats and a storm of criticism when he refused to wear the poppy while playing for Sunderland last year.
On that occasion he wore a normal shirt for the game against Everton in the lead-up to Remembrance Sunday, rather than one embroidered with a poppy.
At the time, McClean auctioned his own poppy-less shirt for a children’s charity and he insisted he would do the same again.
“People have their own opinions,’” he said. “They have their beliefs and I have mine. I don’t regret it, come next year I’m going to do the same thing.”
He was supported at the time by his club and international team-mate John O’Shea, who said the whole team were behind his decision.
Speaking earlier this year, he said: “I got a lot of flak from everybody,” McClean added, “but I’ll say it again, it doesn’t bother me. Every year I’m not going to wear it, so I’ll take whatever comes.”
He did post this on twitter the other day - https://twitter.com/JMcC_23/status/399206036969897984 - but I don't know if it's a photo he took, or something he saw online
Taking all sorts on twitter today: https://twitter.com/search?q=to%3AJMcC_23&f=realtime
It's about 5:1 in the ratio of "you're utter scum":"I support your decision"
I'm happy to say there is no truth in this. It was put to Owen Coyle after game and his response 'James McClean wasn't rested. He has a dead leg. I'm embarrassed to have been asked that question in this day and age."
"I come from an Irish background myself, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions."
I wonder does Jon Snow's twitter account get the same level of abuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Well thats all over for another year.
On the 12th hour, of the 10th day, of the 11th month.
Finally
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BmEYu-thJM...lted+poppy.jpg