Conspiracy Debunk - Surely whoever gets the job will be given a two year contract? so therefore there will be no money saved?Quote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
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Conspiracy Debunk - Surely whoever gets the job will be given a two year contract? so therefore there will be no money saved?Quote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
they were always goin to wait as long as possible to save money..its the fai ffs..esp after paying stanley off!
In the light of what has happened ( That is nothing) sand the rumours doing the rounds you seemed to have got it spot on colsterQuote:
Originally Posted by colster
TOD on 6.01 news yesterday intimated that someone was offered a position, which was expected by the FAI to be accepted, and were to announce it, but was rejected. He suggested it was Brady.
Now if that is correct (in that it was Brady), it asks two questions.
1) Was Brady expecting to be offered the Managers job, and bauked at the idea of technical director?
2) Did Brady agree to Technical Director but refused when informed who the manager would be?
Either way, why would Brady take up a position similar to the one he holds at Arsenal.
One thing is for sure, the FAI don't make things easy for themselves/
My thoughts exactly......particularly point 2..was the manager to be TV or Hoddle who Brady mightn't be to enamoured withQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Because even though the job is quite attractive with a surperb salary and realistic expectations (ie be competative) the FAI have done the equivalent of placing an advertisement in 'The Sun' instead of Le Figaro, Liberation,, Der Stern, Corrierre della Serra etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Of course we all know how successfull the leading british style international team has been, despite having one of the top five richest domestic leagues. Failed to qualify on several occassions and not made a final in nealy 20 attempts over 40 years. (their only success being on home soil)
A journo on Radio 5 is suggesting that Venables turned down the job because the contract being offered was from first match to last match only. Not a calendar 2 year contract.
What a dumb way to structure a contract? Surely he should be on the payroll asap to go and watch players etc. Anyway, if appointed next week, the first match is 6th February anyway so it's splitting hairs.
If true, that probably is penny pinching, though it doesn't say how much was offered.
Ths possible they are structuring the contract so that they don't get fcuked over, in relation to Venners, and if this isn't acceptable to him then bye-bye. A kind of testing the waters if you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Your right. Longford Town for me any day of the week!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
If Brady is chosen than the FAI are contradicting themselves in terms of wanting an experienced manager. I know he has managed Celtic and Brighton, but that is hardly enough experience for the Ireland Job.
What i am amazed at is given the amount of people against TV getting the job both in the media and Joe Public that the FAI would even consider this appointment in light of what went before with Stan. It really sets out the stall where in relation to what we rhink and perceive of the FAI that he is still a viable candidate....Or Maybe I am not giving them enough credit and that they are using him as a smokescreen as almost any one else would be looked on more favourably than him if appointed........Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
cant believe I am accusing the FAI of lateral thinking....jaysus I better ly down
Wasn't Hodgson's contract with Finland, from June before qualifiers to Nov immediat afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
With us Venables would be getting Feb 2008 to Nov 2009. Venables want 2 months more.
It doesn't look to me to be an unsurmountable obstacle to signing a contract.
Verdict .... Venables spin? FAI have another option?
Yeah I agree geysir. Houllier is going to get this job if he wants it and Venables is already lining up the excuses via the British media.i
what has venables said in the british media?
=Noelys Guitar;860723]A journo on Radio 5 is suggesting that Venables turned down the job because the contract being offered was from first match to last match only. Not a calendar 2 year contract.
there ya go paulQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I personally think that Givens' Dual presence as U21 manager AND as a man responsible for hiring the Future BOSS of the U21 manager is causing an element of conflict.
If, when interviewed, a potential manager believes that Givens is the right man to nurture underage talent in Ireland, then I don't want him in charge of the Senior squad, because he knows nowt about Givens ability.
And if, when interviewed, a potential manager believes that Givens is NOT necessarily the right man to nurture underage talent in Ireland, but is willing to let it ride so he can take the gig, then I dont want him in charge of the senior squad, as he's a money grabbing git with no interest in the game here.
The FAI are so out of touch with popular opinion that they stuck him in because they thought he commanded respect amongst the fans. (Possibly after the initial unwillingness of Giles to become the public face of the committee)
When (after a groundswell of discontent about the appointment of Givens due to his tactical shortcomings and media history) they realised they were wrong about his ability to swing the fans, they went on a hunt for someone else to bolster the (already active) interview team. What other reason would there be to add a third man to a seemingly "world class" "headhunting" team?
Having been allegedly rebuffed by several ex-players who know a poison chalice when it's handed to them, they settled on the introduction of Houghton, who , if interpretations of certain media reports are to be believed (big "if", granted), disagrees with Givens and Howe over the structure of the interview procedure.
Any FAI procedure is almost certainly guaranteed to be farcical, but I personally strongly believe that the presence of Givens appears to have been a stumbling block for at least some of the would-be appointees in this circus, and has made this one something special. What if Houllier wants his own U21 team? Will he be entertained? Or would that be a deal breaker?
An ill-concieved appointment which may yet cost us dearly.
I thought the senior manager has no say in who are the underage managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondvillain
Carsley and Kilbane want a resolution to this soon: http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...073171,00.html
Can't really decide if the fact the players are being kept out of the loop is a good thing or a bad thing
The players are right to demand a resolution, however, it is right to keep them out of the loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
They're not exactly "demanding a resolution"!
Lee Carsley hopes the new Republic of Ireland boss will be named "sooner rather than later".
Kilbane says "But they (the panel) appear to be going down the right channels, speaking to the right people. So we will wait and see."
Its dragged on so long now we may as well let it take its tortuous course.
Venables or Houllier will probably be dead by the time they're offered the job.
POTM!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
...or just pretending to be....Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
It looks like Burley is the new Scotland manager after they followed a similar process. Good choice in my opinion.
I think it's interesting to see what Scotland fans think of it. Here is the bbc chat anyway. The players they are citing as being their best aren't as good as ours in my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A31431629
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
At least Hoddle is tipped to go to Southampton to replace Burley so that rules out NoelysGuitar's hot tip some weeks back - the washer lady in the Shelbourne hotel overheard a taxi man saying he'd given a lift to someone who'd once had sex with John Delaney who had screamed out in the middle of an orgasm "Hooooooooooooo-ddddd-llllleeee".
I don't think that'd effect their managerial skills though!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
I have the pics to prove it! Deeply unpleasant ones too so be forewarned.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
THat could easily be Hooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllii iiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
From today's Examiner:
Venables last man standing as French dig in on Houllier
By Tony Leen, Sports Editor
TERRY VENABLES may become the last man standing in the protracted search for a new Republic of Ireland boss, with French football chiefs digging their heels in and insisting that Gerard Houllier remains in his post as the Federation’s technical director.
The Frenchman will make a final bid today to convince his national governing body to release him from his technical role so he can formally accept the FAI’s €1m a year job offer.
But if he is ruled out, then Venables appears certain to the appointed successor to Steve Staunton — by default.
Ex-Liverpool and Lyon boss Houllier has been the preferred candidate among the FAI’s three-man head-hunting committee since Reading manager Steve Coppell distanced himself from the post last week.
Several high profile football figures are working behind the scenes in a bid to get the FAI their man.
But if the French Federation stonewall the pleas, the only alternative to Venables is for the FAI to postpone a final decision on the manager until May when the Premier League season finishes — not an inconceivable scenario — in the hope that Coppell may change his mind and act on his stated desire to get into international management.
Liam Brady and Mick McCarthy remain options but Venables is now firmly in the box-seat.
Venables may have impressed the appointment group of Don Givens, Don Howe and Ray Houghton when they met him, but he has remained a fall-back option behind Houllier.
However the France Football Federation (FFF) president, Jean-Pierre Escalettes’s opposition to letting Houllier return to management remains as strong as ever and leaves Houllier with no choice but to stay put. Sources close to the Federation’s technical director, said it would be “footballing suicide” to turn his back on his own national federation after such a public declaration of intent by its president.
Givens was impressive in his address to the FAI Board of Management on Tuesday at Abbotstown and it has since emerged that he gave an undertaking to the meeting that the three-man committee would have a recommendation for them ahead of the February 6th friendly against Brazil.
However, all the indications are that the recommendation they had in mind was more au fait with cockerels than cockney. Houllier was so keen on the Irish job that he travelled to London for an interview with Messrs Givens, Howe and Houghton.
Last ditch moves were underway last night to ascertain if he could even operate a dual mandate as Irish manager and French technical director, but the French Federation are unlikely to buy that. Therefore it will be down to Houllier’s powers of persuasion when he meets his employers this morning.
Meanwhile, midfielder Lee Carsley hopes the FAI will resolve the managerial vacancy situation “sooner rather than later”.
He said: “Like the rest of the players, I’d like for it to be sorted sooner rather than later. We’ve an important game coming up in February, which is one of those building towards the next (World Cup qualifying) campaign.
“So it’s important we get someone in place as soon as we can. I only hear from my family in Ireland who is being linked because as players we’re out of the loop. But they want to know what is going on as soon as I do.”
Wigan winger Kevin Kilbane also confirmed the players are in the dark, adding: “We don’t know anything. We’re reading what everybody else is reading, with a new name seeming to be coming up every week. But they (the panel) appear to be going down the right channels, speaking to the right people.”
Newcastle’s Damien Duff and Blackburn midfielder Steven Reid are set for recalls after lengthy injury lay-offs when stand-in boss Don Givens announces his squad for the visit of the Samba Boys today.
Click here for irishexaminer.com stories before this date
How is he the last man standing...surely hoddle dalglish etc are thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Hoddle has issues with his soul and others souls...dalglish has a passing relationship with the english language ...if this discounts them we are then left with TV the Soul of indiscretion....he is preparing his excuses already i betcha
Hoddle is likely to take over Burley's job at Southampton.
I thought Dalglish declined to be interviewed.
Maybe Brady can step in if Houllier can't / won't take it.
I suspect the Sanhez & Davies interviews this week is really the panel & FAI buying a bit more time to try and finalise a deal on Houllier.
When would the "last match" be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
If we were to qualify for 2010, would he be in a position to negotiate a very nice contract between the last qualifier and the first game of the World Cup?
http://www.setantasports.com/en/Spor...ritain-locale/
imparial jason mcateer think we should appoint venables because he got to hang round the england training camp at euro '96... and
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he once gave me a ferocious rollicking in front of everyone.
They didn't call him Trigger(from fools and horses, not the wonder horse) for no reason!!:D GobshyteQuote:
Originally Posted by eekers
wasn't there a story doing the rounds of when he and Razor ruddock met Jimmy White and Trigger shouted Oi Jimmy ONE HUNDRED ANDDDD EIGHTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Yeah heard that alright, He's a great lad but has less brain cell's than one of theseQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Looks like a tampon.