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Originally Posted by JR89
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Donald Trump to choose the Ireland Manager ~ ~ Step forward Stormy Daniels ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Are they seriously going to let the week run out without even making a statement clarifying what happened since their previous statement? These lads are taking the Irish sporting public for fools and getting well paid for doing it.
There's a board meeting tomorrow isn't there ?
We'll have something following that if so surely.
Edit : now rumoured to have been cancelled [ YBIG poster ]
I read the irish times piece. Says Hill is already gone. He’s officially here till the 30th but he’s already on annual leave which takes him to then. Says appointment delayed but board meeting where Canham updates the board will happen. Then there’s this great quote:
“The most interesting sight at the Aviva on Tuesday evening was a mock riot between fake hooligans and the Garda Public Order Unit, down the north end of the stadium, where English fans will be put when they visit on September 7th.”
How on earth do you get a job as a fake hooligan? I think I really really would have liked to have been part of it
All bull**** aside, I’d say they get O’Shea to manage in June and see who gets sacked after the euros and if there’s anyone decent who fits their criteria.
Maybe they’re hoping for Marco Rossi or someone to walk / be fired
Thinking through this a bit more. I’m sure there’s plenty out of contract but the issue is, anyone who does a bad job at the euros is undesirable. Anyone who does a great job is probably unaffordable.
Does anyone want to do analysis on the 24 managers at the euros? Contract situations? Job they’ve done so far? Presumed affordability? How well does it fit?
I’ll try find the time if no one else is up for it
If it goes to the end of the season I want Robbie. I know the Israeli thing is sh1t, but our own Government are still doing business with them so football man doing job doesn't bother me too much. Couple of good results and everyone moves on. Roy was regarded as a traitor to his own country and most reasonable people moved on pretty quickly. Robbie will hopefully win league title there and might be getable then
O'Shea is destroying his own credibility by staying involved in this. So blatantly obvious that nobody wants him but he's willing to wait around just in case things fall his way. But even if they do he'll be hugely damaged now from the outset. He should go and continue to learn his trade and stop looking for an easy short cut to the top job.
Hopefully they are not going after the racistQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Robbie Keane would be a big PR disaster if they hired him straight from Israel so they won't touch him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
There are a lot of coaches out there who are either unemployed or coming to the end of their contract - there is a limited number of vacancies and a lot more people looking for them. The FAI should cast a wide net.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
As for the Euro managers - I did have a look
Sylvinho is out of contract with Albania after the Euros
So is Ralf Rangnick with Austria
And Domenico Tedesco with Belgium
And Edward Iordanescu with Romania
And Matjaž Kek with Slovenia
And Murat Yakin with Switzerland
From this list - the only one who would interest me is Sylvinho
Along with being an a*sehole - he has shown nothing that would indicate he is a good coach (he did nothing at Middlesbrough - he screwed the FAI for a lot of money - and managing the big fish in a small pond really doesn't add much).Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I agree - and I always thought O'Shea was a smart guy - unfortunately he is not showing it so far in his coaching choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Chris Hughton would be a great manager for Ireland and, given the current field of candidates, he is now arguably the best available option. Do it.
Like so many others, the question is whether Hughton could be bothered with it for the salary involved.
Unnecessary sledges among a smattering of assumptions. What has O'Shea done to deserve such comments, such condemnation, such vitriol? In the wake of three dire Kenny years when, lest we forget, Ireland failed to score in seven early consecutive games, O'Shea is being hammered from pillar to post for two stand-in games, one of which (Belgium) was generally assessed as promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I don't think JOS will get the job. Yes, his managerial inexperience is a legitimate minus and there are preferred candidates - if they're available or willing to make themselves available.
So he puts his hand up and you've blasted that as hanging around like a bad smell.
He's done nothing other than show loyalty, ambition and a modicum of optimism. How does that "badly damage" his name? It doesn't, in fact it enhances it whatever the outcome.
It's not intended as vitriol, just an assessment of the situation. O'Shea isn't qualified to do this job, he has been part of a number of unsuccessful coaching setups over the last few years, in addition to showing nothing of note in his games as interim manager.
If he ends up in the job he will be seen now as the appointment of last resort, there's no other way of looking at it. That will weaken his position from day one. Yet he seems happy to sit tight and hope the FAI fail spectacularly enough that he ends up getting the gig.
He should walk away now and earn the appointment in future through actually achieving some coaching success of note.
All leagues will be over in May, so that managerial merry-go-round will also be in full flow. There will be lots of candidates looking for a new job.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Rotherham are looking for a coach; maybe JOSH thinks he is above league one standard (as they've just been relegated from the championship). There is some recent precedence in ex-Utd players with minimal to no managerial experience (Rooney, Carrick spring to mind though I can't remember if Derby were L1 or champ when rooney took over) being given championship jobs but I'd say it's relatively uncommon and tends to be the preserve of ex England internationals.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Which is a roundabout way of illustrating the level I would consider JOSH to be at in this stage of his career.
edit: Rotherham have re-appointed ex-manager Steve Evans today but the broader point stands.
It's not an assessment, it's a character assassination. You've created a ridiculous scenario with O'Shea cast as some conniving Uriah Heep lurking in the shadows. Well, he's not. You have no way of knowing he'd be a last-resort appointment - and even if that were the case he should be judged on results and not jaundiced preconceptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
With our budget and our mess of an association we are not going to attract any manager that doesn't come with some baggage, a spotty record, past best before date or is unproven. Whoever is announced and whenever is likely to be imperfect and grossly underwhelming to the masses. At that point, it becomes a matter of who is the best of that bad bunch. I think O'Shea is bottom of that list - fluffed audition, no experience and I think would be not much better than having retained SK. Bruce, Lennon probably next worst. Even Carsley is largely unproven although seems a decent gamble. Andersson and Sagnol would be intriguing, have potential and would get bums in seats.
What is the salary they are offering?
We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one I think. My view is that his position as set out in his quotes at the UEFA thing yesterday further reinforce the views I stated. You clearly feel otherwise, fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Obviously the exact details haven't been released, but the suggestion seems to be that it's been upped to somewhere in the region of €700k to €750k per year. Obviously less than what most if not all managers in the Championship would be on, but on the other hand it's a much less intensive role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
The Premiership has had unusually few sackings mid-season this year, so the summer might well be a bloodbath. It could make it harder for the FAI to pitch with a lot of better jobs open, or it might mean there's a decent manager at a low point. I'm sure an ambitious CEO would be all over it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Oh.
€550k p.a. basic I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
A lot of reports I'm reading state that Chris Hughton has got the job.
Does anybody else even half decent want it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Not having a go at Chris Hughton there.
Where did you see that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Id be delighted tbh
Money has never been a motivation for Hughton - he was the lowest paid manager in the PL when at Brighton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
The Indo has had a couple of pieces in the last day, that Hughton has been approached again. I think if he turns it down they'll go to O'Shea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
The only thing that would stop Hughton taking the job would be if he feels he needs more time after finishing with Ghana. But I suspect that the Ireland job is the one job he would really like a shot at before he retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Would he be any good do you think ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Would you favour him ?
I think we are well past caring about PR look. The guy is about to win a league title and seems to be the best young Irish manager out thereQuote:
Originally Posted by JR89
We talking about Duff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I'd take Duff or Robbie in a heartbeat now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Honestly I'm disillusioned with everything. I genuinely thought they were running a professional recruitment process. This week has shown that its worse than the Delaney days. Canceling the board meeting tonight is beyond belief. Absolutely believe that all Government funding should stop immediately until we get some answers from them of what the hell has gone on here. Has Canham just been conning everyone? What about Paul Cookes oversight? So many questions need answers
They are all conning everyone. I'd imagine anyone with a shred of integrity left during the Delaney years. I'd love to think there are a few good people in there working for the right reasons but there's been very little evidence of that. Scanlon comes across OK, if a bit naive. But whenever I hear anyone else there talk I feel like I'm being sold a lemon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Nice summary from the Examiner here - https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41375971.html
We really are back at Square One. It could yet be O'Shea because there's no-one else - yet it surprises me Keane, who is in club management and doing reasonably ok - has barely been mentioned at all. Some experience > no experience I'd have thought.
Hughton mentioned as taking a break at the moment. Could be seeing what happens in the summer when the club merry -go-round gets underway.
O'Shea not overly keen on interim in June either, so we might need an interim interim manager
Edit - the Indo is reporting we're making a fresh speech approach to Hughton.
But lots of stuff has been reported to date and most of it hasn't happened so...
I think Robbie is not being talked about because the FAI know the ****storm that would kick-off politically, at a time when it seems the government is flying a kite on recognising Palestine. We've already had TD's criticising him for taking that job, but giving him the national team would really set way more off, and there would be calls to boycott the side before too long. The identity of our national team manager, and not just the hiring process, would become a topic for committees that have power over pursestrings. And that in turn would create conditions for "political interference" claims or however you want to call what FIFA selectively enforces. It doesn't surprise me at all that the FAI is just refusing to countenance that: they've already, seemingly, told Lennon where to go for his issues, and possibly Sagnol too.
This, from Gavin Cooney today, is fantastic
https://www.the42.ie/fai-managerial-...56205-Apr2024/