Fai junior cup is in here though,AGAIN,can't ever see ye having that honour,can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Second
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Fai junior cup is in here though,AGAIN,can't ever see ye having that honour,can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Second
lads people are on here slating aidan ryan?when was the last time another manager got an oscar traynor team to 2 finals? admitedly losing 2 finals is not nice but it was a kick of a ball that decided yesterdays game.not a great game yesterday but a level enough game.its typical of people on this site to slate the easy targets.sherlock did alot better than half the "superstars" who played poorly yesterday.all he and hughes seemed to be doing most of the game was covering back and oh ya,everybody is very quiet about the fact it was 2 pike players who made a balls of it for the goal.nobody allowed say anything about that no?
Care to fill us in azzi?I also agree it's harsh slating honest lads who turned up and gave there all,Sherlock is a good bloke,not his fault Ryan started him,but over all Ryan would seem to have to take the blame,there are plenty of lads who are good enough and wanted to play oscar traynor around but Ryan showed them no respect,anyways another loss in a oscar final,shame really.
typical,try and turn this debacle into a Pike bashing!granted,Aidan Ryan didn't have all the players at his disposal that he would have wished...but he still omitted some very good players and opted for some strange selections instead(which he's done every time he's been in charge).As in Askeaton a couple of years ago this game was definately lost on the sideline,leaving Alan Barry out the most obvious gaff of all.Everyman and his dog know you cannot bring Alan into a game,you have to start him!....For a finish they ended up with four strikers on the field!!......to some Mark Slattery might have been a strange selection,but he is a good attacking young player and would have been a threat on the flank but alas!!....for a finish Azizi,have you ever heard of Paddy Cusack?...a legend in this competition!!
Did mark sla play for oscar traynor this year,he and Sherlock seem to be getting a slating for nothing,ye can't blame those lads,that was marks dream, I'd say and fair play to him!!!!!
Azizi Dont make an ape of yourself pike players made up close to half of yesterdays team, losing two finals isnt good enough for the strongest league in the country and there is no one putting personal remarks towards A ryan he is the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by azizi
nobody is pike bashing bud.the point i was trying to make was that in recent years i.e the last 4-5 the only oscar traynor teams that have gone far in the comp are the ones he has managed.correct me if im wrong but has the team even got out of the group in the last year or two?the defo havent made the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spindoctor
the buck stops with the manager afterall ballboy but who would you have had in the squad?do you think eoin hanrahan or tierney or any other players would warm the bench for the OT squad?i dont think so and i dont think pikes management would have been happy with having any more players than they already had in the squad.losing 2 finals is bad but its better than the state of some of the squads in recent years who havent even got outta groupQuote:
Originally Posted by theballboy
They had a handy enough passage to both those finals and should at least have won 1 of them.the buck definetly stops with him and his assistants,which were strange as well,if he doesn't like someone for whatever reason they don't get in the squad,which imo is totally wrong,his personal grudges should not come into consideration,there was a lot of quality players out there who weren't considered for one reason or another which is totally wrong,he's the manager,he picks the squad,he's to blame,maybe dermot finnan should be next manager,couldn't see him losing 2 finals.
Why would Hanrahan and tierney warm the bench,are you telling me they are not better than Sherlock and Hughes,and if so you haven't a clue what you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by azizi
Think he was trying to say the starting team can only be so many players and if he was to ask Tierney and Hanrahan to be subs they wouldn't cause they are too good.Quote:
Originally Posted by theboywonder8
Wasn't Ryan the manager when they went out in the last sixteen 2 years ago,another disaster,2-0 up against cork and lost 3-2.I don't think he should be given the job anymore,holding personal grudges against junior players is not acceptable at this level.we should have the best players on show in the oscar matches,and that wasent the case yesterday.tierney would have been a good choice yesterday,sure didn't he call Thomas Clarke into the squad only during the week,dermot finnan would be a good choice,or even Declan casey for that matter.
who were his assistants and why are they strange,, the buck stops with the manager,, and limerick lostQuote:
Originally Posted by theboywonder8
Shane Fitzgerald and Gerry mcmahon,I agree the buck stops with him,
gerry mcmahon is over prospect ,, who is shane fitzgerald with,, never heard of him ,, i think gerry is a sound man ,, why do you say he is strange,, i dont think he would like that said of him
Gerry Mc Mahon Managed prospect and does alot of work Oscar Trainer is to much for him sound bloke and not fair on him to be put in that position, I havent a clue who shane Fitzgerald is, who did he manage? or play with? is he from limerick?, did alan barry report injured before the game.
No one has mentioned last years Oscar Traynor team who travelled to Cork with only 11 players and a sub goalkeeper.
So which would people prefer players who want to play for their league or players who are picked and dont turn up.
People have mentioned players here who should have been picked i know for a fact that at least 8 Premier players declined to play Oscar Traynor this year.
Also remember that the AUL have a budget of 10 thousand euro put a side every year to win the Oscar Traynor Trophy so it was a great achivement for the lads to get to the final and to lose by a mistake in the last minute.
I played under Aidan Ryan as a manager and i think he is a good manager and im sure if you asked any of yesterdays team they would say the same.
Ya nice of fairview to let ye have it for a year .... Seriously though you need to get over this limk v clare thing you have an obsession about.. We all know the limk league is better than clare league.. Ye have a way bigger pool of players to chose from.. So well doneQuote:
Originally Posted by theboywonder8
big lads coming on here and slaughtering lads who have given ther time for free.. shane fitz managed a fairview b team to promotion he and the management team done their best and wer very unlucky..easy to criticise people when your outside the fence..most of yee havnt a clue and are not involved in football but great in front of yer laptops..
You are missing the facts there was still alot of players that wanted to play and were not picked, players that were better than the players that played yesterday, you surly must agree that both finals should have been won by limerick, Desmond league is a poor league and limerick should have won easy, Yesterday the wrong team went out on the pitch for starters and the changes were worse and i didnt think AUL were up to much, Limerick did have home advantage can anyone tell me who shane fitzgerald is i thought gerry mac mahon was Aidans assisstant.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueboy2
great post,disgrace some of the stuff being posted.limerick very unlucky yesterday,thought the aul keeper the best player on the pitch made five great saves.fair play to all the players and the mgt they put some respect back into the oscar traynor setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster
Monster this site is about opinions if your not happy with opinions dont login, and i havent seen anyone slaughtered its just soccer opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster
lads there are probably 60-70 players in town good enough to play for the oscar traynor team.you can only start 11.its no wonder alot of people dont want to be involved in it.the lads who played yesterday gave there all for there city and were beaten by a lucky goal.thats football.for a team who were meant to be useless the dublin aul side had enough of internationals in it.
I agree with you they should have won the 2 finals but who are the players who wanted to play and were not picked i find that a bit strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by theballboy
Shane Walters, paul quinn, willie o brien , robbie kel, pa moloney, john boyle these players are good enough to be on the panel they are playing premier football every week, ronan sherlock plays centre half with hes club why put him on the wing, hughes plays in the centre for hes club why play him on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueboy2
played on the wing for 10 years ballboy.play centre half the last 6 months because we dont have another centre half.that should clear that one up for you.john boyle left the squad after 1 game this season.pa moloney has a broken wrist.would you play robbie kell ahead of alan barry or shane clarke? would you play quinny or willie o brien ahead of hartnett or kavanagh?with the exception of 1 or 2 the starting 11 was as strong in there positions as any manager could have put out.dont think any of the above would have hung around to be a sub when starting for there club teams.
jason hughes is also one of the best young players in town.he has league of ireland experience and has played alot on the wing also as far as i know so i dont see what difference it makes if he plays midfield for boro.he is good enough to be in the team
I would have them on the panel at least how many midfielders were on the bench if hartnet or kavanagh got injured, pa moloneys wrist was broke in the fai final he wasnt on the oscar trainer before that, and shane walters ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tedd11
Can you name the subs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tedd11
Have to say well done to the players and managment of this years ot team very unlucky yesterday the game could have gone ethier way..All this talk about players and manager not good enough i bet not one of ye ever managed the ot team or played in the team so who are ye to judge..they had a great win in kerry in the semi and ye werent on slating them then were ye thats what is wrong with this city to many people want to see them lose..this time last year the only had 12 players against cork that was an embarresment to limerick look how much it has changed this year all thanks to aiden his managment team and the players he picked i thought they would have won but just unlucky on the day and definitly nothing to be disgraced about
Ya very sad to hear this nice man. Will be missed i'm sure by everyone in junior football and especially his family my condolences to his sons.May he rest in peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by booster 03
ian bennis-goalie-fairviewQuote:
Originally Posted by theballboy
john ryan-goalie-janesboro
alan barry-striker-pike
tommy heffernan-striker-kilmallock
stephen grant-centre mid-carew pk
ger burke-centre mid-mungret
thomas clarke-centre back-janesboro
ralph judge-winger-caherdavin
mark slattery-full back-carew pk
how come john tierney and christy doyle werent in the team not to mind being in the squad??i expressed my doubts about conor moloney on this site after the semi final,yesterday i thought he was poor gave the ball away everytime he had to pass it,and lost his man for the goal imo...wayne colbert was outstanding again..
Would it be fai to say Willie o brien, Paul Quinn are better than Ger burke or grant in the centre, Shane Walters or john boyle has to be better than Ralph judge and playing at a higher level, Why have 3 keepers Ian,john,gary for one position.Quote:
Originally Posted by tedd11
Maybe those players were asked but turned it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooney10
yea wel considering they were at the match they must be interested,3 keepers in the squad is ridiculous,i dunno where people are going talking about shane walters hes not up to that standard imo.
I thought Ronan Sherlock was playing centre half for Corbally these days (or at least he did v us during the season)...............Quote:
Originally Posted by theballboy
Thats a bit harsh in fairness, Ronan's a good player and if he is picked by the OT manager then all he can do is his best when called upon.Quote:
Originally Posted by theboywonder8
Everybody on this site would pick a different squad if asked to do so, so each to their own opinion, but for whats its worth I dont deem it fair for guys to come on here and have a go at Ronan...............at the end of the day he has done nothing wrong.
No, Alan was fine...........Quote:
Originally Posted by theballboy
You obviously haven't seen that much of him then.............Pa Barry (Boro) would also have to be considered imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooney10