If OGS was an option - I could get behind that.
Cardiff were a basketcase when he took over there - and I think his time at Man U has been undervalued - I think he did reasonably well in a difficult situation.
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If OGS was an option - I could get behind that.
Cardiff were a basketcase when he took over there - and I think his time at Man U has been undervalued - I think he did reasonably well in a difficult situation.
Interesting he seems to have been spoken to at least. With that and the random New Zealand guy, the FAI seem to have been spreading the net. Not encouraging if there's no bites thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Also a report tonight saying it's not O'Shea. Into Stevie Bruce territory now maybe.
Extra time goal maybe !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
All about money I think. We were paying our assistant manager more money from 2013-2018 than our budget for our manager is now. And during the last 5 years, wages for managers have gone up exponentially. O'Neill was 5th highest paid in Euro 2016 (earning as much as Southgate). Back in 2008, 16 years ago, Trap agreed a deal getting €1.8m a year. Now we're talking about approx €550k. Realistically, we're paying something like high end League 1 wages (Championship average manager's wage is £1m).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Ole was earning £9m a year at United when he was sacked, with a £7.5m golden handshake. That's why there's so many 'thanks but no thanks' answers.
Yeah, think you're right. Puts it in perspective how hard it may be to get a good manager really
Absolutely agree. But the FAI lads will have known since last year that, unless they can source private funding (which they clearly haven't), the top end wage here is going to be 750k a year or thereabouts. So it should be possible to establish through agents which potential managers simply aren't going to get out of bed for that kind of money and rule them out from the off. Whereas they seem to have been chasing around after unrealistic targets (e.g. Barry) as recently as last week.
Mad to think the FAI having no money is becoming an obstacle to finding a manager.
On the face of it, it does seem as though the FAI have their man in position ready to go next week, unless they can come up with someone better by then. It seems it's not O'Shea (hopefully!), so it would need to be someone who is out of work, has at least some kind of managerial track record and would be willing to take the job at a relatively low wage. The low wage part does seem to rule out almost everyone.
I have given a bit of thought to this and am wondering if it might be Mark Hughes. 15 seasons of Premier League experience, has never been relegated, previous international experience with Wales, last job was in the lower leagues and didn't go well, so he might be available on the cheap. Also obviously has the Man United link which might or might not have led to OGS and Bruce's odds suddenly shortening yesterday.
If it's not Bruce or Hughton (who may well both steer clear at the wage offered), I'm starting to wonder if it might actually be him.
Old Sparky knocking in a volley !
Hughes peaked with Blackburn more than a decade ago, and has been dining out on that run ever since.
A bit harsh; he did quite well at Stoke too.
Beggars can't be choosers though
Surely Steve bruce would prefer us to south Korea. They might be a better team but it's a different kettle of fish overthere
He's got to be better the JOS or as things stand nobody
Janne Anderson would be Great and he would be getting a salary raise from his Sweden days
All of us who have staff know, when. You hire someone give them more than they are on currently.!
I know football is different but it helps psychologically.
"Sweden coach Janne Andersson made 4,420,300 Swedish kronor in 2022, equal to around 377,747 euros at exchange rates on 8 November 2023"
Janne the Great! I’d like him too - been doing a bit of research on him since I first saw him mentioned. The only thing is he is remarkably Sweden-centric in his career to date and I’d wonder what he’d make of us pixie heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
He will love usQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
The only people who hate us is Israel and that's a compliment
In other news, Carsley is in to 11/2 from dead bet odds in the last hour. It couldn't be, could it ...
Dont fcukin tease me like that, the therapy has just started working!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41375113.html
Mr Fallon saying delay until summer now... I'll hold off on judgement based on Fallons record, but Holy sh1t if this is right then Canham and Bonner should be out the door before it even closes behind Hill
Chris Hughton over Bruce surely. Better candidate given his history as player and assistant manager with Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I think that article needs to get the usual John Fallon treatment until such time as it's backed up by more reliable sources. But, if it's true and there's nothing further to add this week other than we'll announce someone in the summer, then that needs to be the end of it for Canham and Bonner.
Yeah, if it's true is the caveat - but this is an appointment we've been told is all but signed, sealed and delivered. I think Hall was on the panel but they can sign off before he leaves - or the Board can ratify the decision even if Hall leaves surely?
Are we going to have a case where the new manager will miss four friendlies and get thrown straight into a tie against England? That's ridiculous
Gotta love the dig in the first paragraph here: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...s-rocky-reign/
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Upheaval at the Football Association of Ireland once again. After serving three-and-a-half years of a five-year stint, Jonathan Hill will depart his role as CEO on 30 April, or early April as they presumably term it in Abbotstown.
I guess they just seriously overestimated the attractiveness of the job, and assumed they'd find a manager easily, and are going into something of a tailspin now.
At this stage either will be a victoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
If the summer delay is correct, then we should be happy it's defo not JOS
My guess is they built this head coach stuff around one man and one man only, Lee Carsley. Though when he said no it's now left them up ****s creek a bit. Others that would have fitted the role they wanted wouldn't touch the job in Barry and Eustace. They spoke with Anthony Hudson but he'd be a huge gamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
At this stage my list would go Janne Andersson then Chris Hughton or Willy Sagnol. Andersson would supposedly get a pay rise accepting Kenny's wages but don't see him being open to the head coach stuff Canham has went on about.
When you look at some of the names left like Bruce for example since twitter rumours have talked about him. You probably could put all the names into a hat and just pull a name for the sake of it. When you're that far down might as well just give it to Hughton. His coaching career is just as long as his management career so he's probably you're best pound shop version of what they want for the role.
I have no big problem with delaying appointment if it means getting the right person, if that's what comes to pass. The main issue is the lack of transparency and frankly, dishonesty. You simply can't say we'll be announcing the new manager in (early) April and then renege on that and expect no reaction.
Once bitten twice shy and all that, I for one wouldn't believe a single thing the current administration say if this is how things pan out.
There's a limit to that though, surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
If we haven't enticed Pep by now, we probably aren't going to get him by June...
yes... i guess ideally before the june friendlies but failing that at least a couple of weeks before our next competitive game in sept. appointing now or early june doesn't seem like it would make too much difference to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I agree with most of that but your pound-shop reference to Hughton, though a nice turn of phrase, is harsh. With (presumably) Carsley and Barry out of the frame and Sagnol's dark cloud, I cannot see better than Hughton to restore respect to the national side. Andersson is interesting but Hughton is one of our own and though you value him at a pound I reckon he's worth a punt.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Very good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Janne Anderson's last few years for Sweden have been worse than Kenny's were with Ireland. Getting beaten 2-0 by Georgia which largely stops them qualifying for the world cup automatically. Then losing 2-0 to Poland in the playoffs. Then getting relegated to League C in the Nation's League (losing 4, drawing 1, winning 1 of 6 games). Then failing to qualify for the euros in what was a pretty easy group. Highlights included losing 3-0 to Azerbaijan, losing home and away to Austria 2-0 and 3-1, and 3-0 to Belgium.
Obviously he had real success before that: qualifying for the world cup in a terribly difficult draw, winning the world cup group (with the help of an imploding germany and a mexico who went out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot), winning the nation's league B group, qualifying for and winning the euro 2020 group.
I just feel it's very likely we'd be getting a manager who is 3 years passed his sell-by date
hughton? dear god whats the point anymore
If Hill has resigned who is even responsible for making the appointment now?
If Hughton/Bruce get appointed there will be half empty stadiums. We quickly forget how bad things got towards the end of the O'Neill and Trap days. There was a reason Kenny got a chance, the fans were sick of us having 25% possession at home and just defending for 90 minutes. It got results for a while, but football has moved on. Kenny tried to be progressive and in the end it didnt work with results, but to the end the stadium was still full and it was never as toxic as the end of the other eras.
The 2 recent friendlies show that the FAI cant take for granted that the fans will turn up. I know they were only friendlies, but the way they sold the tickets and the fact that it was only an interim manager a lot of people just didnt bother going. If they dont produce a manager that can put some enthusiasm back in to the fans there is a danger that the apathy that has been allowed to fester by them fcuking around for the last 6 months will continue into the games. Yes, the England game will sell out, because theres enough idiots in the country who will want to go to see their Premiership players, but if they appoint a manager who most of would let out a collective groan at, by this time next year they could be struggling to get 25,000 at games
Canham is supposed to be presenting to the board on Wednesday evening. That suggests they have their guy and Hill has no more to do with it. If Fallon is right and the search goes on to the summer, then who the hell knowsQuote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Why not a reality show?
Winner to managed Ireland!
Gordon Ramsey and the like can give tasks and challenges, and each week one person is eliminated.
The final show is the final 3. At the end, Stutts gives one lucky fella a rose.
Said this before that the FAI should hire Netflix to come in and do a mockumentary. Harchester United wouldn't get a look in with the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Rather than have all these people battle it out to be manager we could just keep the job as interim only and invite people in to manage the team.
Neil O'Riordan now saying there wont be an appointment this week. John O'Shea doing interviews saying that hes not been told he wont be getting the job.
At what point do Canham and Bonner get fired for gross incompetence.