And they miss their first. This tie should have been wrapped up long by now.
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And they miss their first. This tie should have been wrapped up long by now.
What an implosion
The biggest bottle job you ever see! They had a 4 v 1 before the og and mess it up! Christ!
Unbelievable.
Missing that chance when they had two players in on the keeper in the box was maybe the real key one, but they were woeful in front of goal almost all night, including the penalties
Don't forget they were 2-0 up in Latvia last week going into injury time and drew 2-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by swinfordfc
The tie could have been nearly over after the 1st leg. 2 up with 5 minutes to play. Can’t seal the deal in normal time, ET when leading with seconds left and finally missing your first 2 penalties. Spectacular failure.
I watched a good bit of it and they should have won comfortably. Actually almost did feel sorry for them, but you have to see these things through. Chris Shields was brilliant for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
Shields was brilliant. Disastrous decision to take him off. (He's also a fearless penalty taker - as I remember against Sheriff). I've rarely sees such scenes of desolation and deflation after a defeat.
Another good home victory for Rovers in Europe, albeit against a half ar€ed opponent. Rovers have really missed Jack Byrnes set piece delivery in recent months so hopefully his comeback is timed well for ECL group stages. Great European experience for Justin & Aidomo and Finner equalling Gary Rogers record is indicative of one Finner being one of the LOI greats in recent years.
Linfields clown car trapdoor exit is comical in the extreme-You'd think they'd be only too happy to replicate a Brexit style way of exiting Europe in embarrassing fashion to impress their butchers apron waving friends on their fast receding "mainland" 😂😂
He was unbelievable,someone looking to challenge down here should throw some money at him…Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
Looking at the co-efficient table it's hard to believe that at the beginning of last season we were a full 10 wins behind Luxembourg. Before the Bohs game the thinking was that it'd be a big step up. Now 20(!) European wins later and we've roared past them.
It won't have any material significance but that win today means it's now confirmed that we'll finish ahead of Belarus and Bosnia this year.
The change of the format of the ECL has benefitted us hugely. Our teams have mostly been unseeded these past 2 years but the Irish teams are past becoming the ones to avoid in that first draw. That said things can come crashing down just as fast if there's some poor results next year.
But it's been super enjoyable these past 2 summers to get the chance to see 40 (think I've actually got to see 35+) LOI in Europe ties with 6 more to come.
We've already tried, dunno if you cam say we are challenging though. On the game, if he's still on the pitch that miss wouldn't have been.. The ball would've been in the corner. Ach well!Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Linfield never recovered from thisQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Rovers' home/away form difference really is quite marked. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the groups because of course sides will have as much to play for in the return game even if they won 3-0/4-0 at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
So are Rovers picking up a couple of fortuitous wins against, as you say, half-arsed opponents, or are they approaching away games wrong? It seems likely one of the two explains the gap, and the groups should help tell which
That's a record of P8 W5 D1 & L2 in Europe for Rovers so far this year. The 2 defeats which were heavy in fairness in hindsight could have been managed better, each game having a proper brainfart piece of defending (Grace in Razgrad & Gannon in Budapest) leading to crucial third goals after clawing back some kind of a foothold in the games after poor starts. I'd be hopeful SB & his coaching team will be mindful of what led to the 2 poor results & enter the groups with confidence that they should have a chance or at least be competitive in at least 4 of the games. A lot will depend on the teams we face, so it really is the luck of the draw but being in pot 3 you'd have to hope that the 4th seeds are there to be got at, at least.
IMO there was no shame in losing the 2 ties to Ludogorets & Ferencvaros, both are clubs with resources significantly greater than anything in our league and were rightly favourites to progress, the manner of the first leg defeats are what have frustrated me, especially the Ludogorets one, anyone who was in Tallaght for the home game knows well that at 2-0 they were rightly panicked & Rovers ultimately going for it left us open to the break which led to their goal. That showed me across the 2 games the gap wasn't as wide as first imagined, even if they were always likely to progress anyway, who know what could have happened on the night had we drawn level... anyway, its neither here nor there at this stage. I'd hope that SB & the team have learned from these 2 games and will be better prepared for the 6 games to come. Even in defeat there are crucial lessons to be learned & judging by SB's comments to the media he's not hiding & has accepted he's made errors & hopefully will learn from them.
Looking forward to the luck of the draw for the groups now later today, fingers crossed its kind to us!
I’m like the foot.ie version of the coolerQuote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Looking at the pots for the draw, there are huge differences in what you can get. It could be something like Villarreal, Fiorentina and Silkeborg, or it could be something like Partizan, Slovan and RFS.
Rovers home wins over Ludogorets and Ferencváros have an asterisk next to them. The ties were over after the first leg.
Good to pick up the coefficient points. Hopefully Rovers determination to protect their home record will serve them well in the group stage.
The fourth seeds are probably the most interesting as it's there that points are most likely to be got.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidewayspasser
Ukraine - Dnipro-1
Poland - Lech Poznań
Czech Republic - Slovácko
Denmark - Silkeborg
Sweden - Djurgĺrdens IF
Armenia - Pyunik
Latvia - RFS
Kosovo - Ballkani
They're mostly not teams you'd think of an LoI side being seeded higher than . Lech Poznan like?
Anderlecht and Nice are also third seeds - qualifying every year is a big benefit in terms of seeding, which is probably a bit silly, but it is what it is.
Full seedings here.
you,d have to hope that Rovers can put it up to the bottom 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Silkeborg might be shaky it seems but yea it wont be easy. They will have to have some grit, determination or ambition. I hope they put on a good show anyways.
Baseksehir, Fiorentina, Rovers, Lech Posnan, would be some group. I suppose a good draw would be from Partizan, Gent, Partisan, AZ /Molde, Appollon/ reasonS to think they can beat anyone in pot four/
Ferencvarosi get Crvena Zvezda, Monaco and Trabzonspor in the Europa league,a pretty horrible draw for them that….
Well the bottom three anyway. The Swedish league is half decent and doesn't deserve to be grouped with Armenia/Latvia/Kosovo, all of which Rovers should be targeting for an aggregate win in the normal course of eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by sparky12345678
Danish side PS.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I’ve been running a few simulators since last night and Ballkani keep coming out. So do Slovan.
Djurgarden?Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
I thought Sparky was talking about Silkeborg?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Apologies, I did not read his post fully.
He was - but I was taking Djurgarden out of the bottom four he referred to. I think they're far closer Denmark/Poland/etc than Armenia/Latvia/Kosovo
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
agreed. of the northern/scandanavian leagues we used to be confident of winning a tie against icelandic, and finnish opposition and not as confident at all versus norwegian or danish opposition but swedish opposition I thought would still be a team/league to aim to beat...
On top of that the Danish team, silkeborg haven,t done that well so far and were placed 3rd last year so might not be the creme de la creme...(?)
I mean the other teams are also low ranked for a reason and Rovers like Dundalk before should be aiming to take points off them...
We used to have a great record against Swedish sides back at the peak, but Pat's were fairly handily dispatched by Norrköping three years ago, so I don't think the wins in the 00s count for much any more.
Rovers lost 2-1 to Solna in 2018 so there's a chance of a result for sure. I'd take the bottom three as sides Rovers should get aim for 4 points off, and the other five as sides they could get a home point off anyway.
Gent and Molde for Rovers so far so.
That is not a bad group so far.
Gent is a beautiful city. Its a less touristy version of Bruges.
Fourth seed is key now. Molde are a decent side, but Dundalk a couple of years ago put it up to them, so with a crap fourth seed and a home win against Molde, you never know...
Won't be the Latvians though.
Djurgardens of Sweden the fourth seed.
Handy group for travel, if nothing particularly interesting in there. Tough one to get out of. No obvious easy wins either.
Couple of better draws in that pot but maybe some worse ones so about average.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That’s an excellent group for rovers to get with getting points on the board in mind. Second place in the group shouldn’t be out of the question either. It’d be a big achievement but not impossible by any stretch
Some expensive drinking spots there!!
Irelands gone so bad that I didn’t find Sweden that excessive when we played there in 19.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Yeah Dublin will be very expensive for supporters of those 3 sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B