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I'll keep it simple for you so. Did the defender wrap his arms around Gerrards waist or not? Did he try to impede his run or not?
If you answer no to either you either don't know the rules of the game or you are an Everton fan who's letting his hatred of Liverpool cloud his judgment. I suspect it's the latter.
If you answer yes to any of them then it was a penalty.
If you follow the letter of the law then you could give it but you would have to give every holding incident which would have ment 40 penos.
If it was obstruction as some of ye are claiming then it should have been an indirect free kick, no ?
so your saying as long as the defender touches you its ok to dive on the ground looking for a peno ?? having an arm blocking your run would not cause you to fall over .
everyone knows what he did yet again ill point out thats not my point its the hypocrisy of the liverpool fans im talking about with all there slating of other players , what did ye call AJ, Andy "the feather" Johnson because he goes down easily !!!!! :eek: :eek: .... i dont think ye will be able to use that again any time soon
stop trying to get out of it with ye're nonsence there was contact its a mans game no self respecting man would have dived on the ground like that he is a cheating fairy .
this is like the "intent" peno he dived for earlier in the season or the 2 footed stamping against everton when ye claim he tried to get the ball . ye're blindness towards liverpool is unreal .
So you're saying it was a penalty. In that case get over it and move on, you're sounding more and more despearte with each post.
I said it could be given i didnt say it should be given .
Its a non contact sport so a free could be given for every time a player puts his hand on anothers back , bumps into him ,backs into him etc etc ... but the refs know there will be a limited amount of contact and that if you rule to the letter of the law nothing would ever get done thats why common sence is used .
unlike in this case where there was a little holding the ref had a word then Gerrard dived on the floor conned the ref into thinking the defender had dragged him to the ground and won a peno .
get over it ye're the one who keep bringing it up i made one comment on it and have only responded to your questions , as soon as ye stop going on abou tit i wont have to keep responding .
And for about the 5th time its not the peno im going on about , its the liverpool fans who have a go at players like AJ for going down easy !!!
See, he's still going on about it^
And explain what is wrong with that statement , using your vast knowledge of the game .
Rugby = contact sport
Football =non contact sport
And remember you have just said gerrard deserved a peno due to the tiny bit of contact, surely your not going to suggest that it isnt a non contact sport now are you ?????
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So there is no contact when you shoulder someone or when you fly into a tackle and knock the man off his feet but it's legal as you got the ball??
Laughable.
1.while running for a ball you can run shoulder to shoulder you can t push the player off the ball with you shoulder .
Hence my its a non contact sport BUT THERE WILL BE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CONTACT
2.Yes as your winning the ball without knocking the player , he falls after you have won the ball. its a by product of the tackle , you arent knocking the player to win the ball .
Are you saying that if i go into a tackle with 2 feet and studs up ,one knocks the player but the other gets the ball then its legal just because i touched the ball ??
now thats laughable ..... but why dont you put a smart answer and some roll eyes smiley's as you normally do ...sure if you think your right then who cares.
Now im sure technically its a "contact sport" as there will be contact in the same way holding hands with your missus is contact, its a far cry from rugby tackling her .
in rugby you tackle the player in football you play the ball .
Can Réiteoir come in and help us & Anto here?:D
Your an idiot of course there will be some contact every sport has contact basket ball has contact but its a non contact sport as well ,even a game a chess will have some contact FFS .
Im the one contradicting myself ...your the one saying its a contact sport but at the same time saying it was a peno because the defender made contact :confused: :confused:
But why im argueing with a liverpool fan that reads the Sun ill never know :mad:
Please do. I get no joy from showing you up.
Anto,
Do us all a favour and ignor the website!!!!:D :D
Anto
As a fellow Everton supporter I admire your resilience at trying to come out of every discussion on top. Just do me a favour and ackowledge the fact you are posting on a forum where the point is to generate discussion on matters that are relevant to all. Please try and understand you are constantly contradicting yourself on this thread and your never ending tedium on Everton versus the "s**e" is an embaressment. Pulling statistics and opinions from a varity of sources and posting them as here as your opinion really shows a lack of imagination. The facts are that Liverpool is a city that loves football.
Liverpool and Everton are english football clubs.
Both have a connection with the Irish .
Liverpool are the more successful club in Liverpool
Everton are not.
Steve Gerrard is a cheat, so fcuking what its a win at all costs business
Andy Johnson is a cheat, as above
Neither club will win the premiership in the next few years, though Liverpool will get there before the club that we support.
Liverpool have 5 European cups we have none. Please don't show another lack of imagination and start spouting on about Heysel and the usually small dick Everton rhetoric about what could have been only for the ban....la la la la la .....
Prediction for tomorrow Everton will beat Sheffield Utd , Andy " the feather "Johnson will fall over in the box , we will get a penalty for a bad , missed timed tackle or the lack of intelligence from a Sheffield Utd defender who will block a run from someone and / or show intent to make a tackle....on and on and on we go.
Thank God its Friday and here my rant ends.
Come on the Toffees the second tier of European football needs you.
Excellent post First. All true too except the Stevie Gerrard line ;) :p :D
Oh YAWN ............
I dont claim things ive cut and pasted as my own , i dont claim everton arent english ,ive never said liverpool havent been more succesfull .
A win at all costs ?? Not for me id rather lose honestly than win cheating.
You say its a forum for discussion between everyone , am I not part of that everyone , and this page always goes dead until I rile up some reds its just a bit of a laugh FFS no one takes it seriously
[QUOTE=anto1208;634484]Oh YAWN ............
I dont claim things ive cut and pasted as my own , i dont claim everton arent english ,ive never said liverpool havent been more succesfull .
A win at all costs ?? Not for me id rather lose honestly than win cheating.
....;)
Spot on. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by First
Glad to see your looking foward to it :D , but i feel no need to laugh at ye at all in fact im not going to disscuss anything liverpool any more that will make ye happy .
Im more concerned about Cahill who broke his foot and is out for the rest of the year , A kick in the stones if ever there was one hopefully fernandes steps up . An ok result at least it pushes us up into that 6th spot .
Looks like David Nugent is pushing again for his move to Goodison
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"Hopefully I'll be in the Premiership with Preston this summer. If not, someone else as every young player wants to be there. Everton, for me, would be the dream. I've always wanted to play for them. It'd be unbelievable and, hopefully, it'll happen one day. That's where I want to be." DAVID NUGENT PRESTON
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Prediction for tomorrow Everton will beat Sheffield Utd ,
Ooops:o
Lads, there is a group of us travelling to Liverpool on a stag this w/end. Its been a few years since I 've been there, anyone got a few pointers on where to go/ where to avoid for the nightlife. Can you also recomend a good bar to watch Ireland win the triple crown on Sat? cheers.
Loads of bars down Matthew street.
If you're there on a Friday try and get into the Grafton.
Mattews street or the circus( big square full of bars) are your best bets for plenty of boozed up scouse girls .
Dont know about during the day i normally drink in the Winslow but i wouldnt recomend it, its one of "the Firm" pubs .
Dont know about any strip joints,but as its liverpool if you have to pay for it there is something very wrong !! :D .
There used to be a strip place called Angels but last i heard its now a gay bar .
I'd say you have a hotel by now but the Dolby on the Docks is ok £50 a night but within walking distance of the city centre , Just dont ever stay in the Adelphi they have a very bad reputation for having rooms robbed .
Hope that helps a bit .
Concert Square is a great spot with loads of good bars there ditto mathew street , walkabout , modo , the office , revolution , bumper live , rubber soul all get the gustavo seal of approval .
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