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21/05/2011, 12:20 PM
Lionel Ritchie

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Geoff Wilson:“People understand the reason why we implemented the strict ticketing policy was because of the interests and security of our fans. However, the fans that are speaking to us and writing on the forums are stating the player eligibility issue (as their main reason for not attending).”

That doesn't really tot though. Who the hell have Wales whisked out of the IFAs buxom in the boot of a car that there's only 38 tickets sold for their match with them?
21/05/2011, 12:40 PM
geysir

Geoff Wilson is participating in a what's called retrospective revision.
The OWC fans would believe any old revised stroke passed on to them, without much resistance from their diminished portions of rational common sense.
21/05/2011, 1:11 PM
Mr_Parker

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Originally Posted by geysir

Geoff Wilson is participating in a what's called retrospective revision.

Spot on.
21/05/2011, 2:25 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by geysir

Geoff Wilson is participating in a what's called retrospective revision.

Correct.

Funny that if "the don't give the thieving FAI a penny" brigade had so much influence, that over 6,000 Northern Ireland fans attended the game v Scotland.
21/05/2011, 2:27 PM
Stuttgart88

Aren't all revisions retrospective?
21/05/2011, 3:46 PM
BonnieShels

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Aren't all revisions retrospective?

Mine aren't. Sure even my foresight is 20:20.
21/05/2011, 4:54 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by awec

I doubt the AoNISC's position was changed by an internet forum, for what it's worth. Nor would it be changed or influenced by the IFA.

As far as I am aware the AONISC position has not changed.

No, although each time they now mention their "official" stance, they're also paying lip service to those fans who are unhappy about player eligibility, as if that issue also ties in with the overall boycott. They weren't doing this originally, citing only the IFA's travel and security arrangements for NI fans as the sole reasoning behind the boycott by the general fanbase. Their statements now imply that a "significant number" of those who've decided to partake in this boycott are also doing it because player eligibility is, for them, an issue over which it is worth making a stand. It clearly never was. NI fans attended the Scotland game in their thousands and it was only an insignificant minority who supported the original idea of a boycott over the player eligibility issue. The idea of a widespread boycott only gained wings after the IFA announced their bus prices and plans.
21/05/2011, 5:03 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

Was a story on the back of the Belfast Telegraph today claiming that a Shankill Road based NI supporters club is wanting to take the IFA to court for infringement of there Human Rights! I don't really understand that one at all it will be costly and could end up harming the IFA. Also there was talk of a boycott of the next home game at Windsor against Norway IIRC.

Story here: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-16002367.html

It is a rather bizarre step considering they were perfectly entitled to attend the game were it not for their personal choice to boycott it.
21/05/2011, 7:51 PM
awec

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Originally Posted by co. down green

It does seem strange that someone convicted of the murder of two Catholics and who is a senior loyalist paramilitary, is the sort of guy ni supporters would be keen to have as their spokesman.

Maybe 'Winkie' will be offered a position within the IFA's Community Relations Dept. ;)

What a load of absolute muck. Take your bile elsewhere please.
22/05/2011, 12:10 AM
ArdeeBhoy

So you're saying FT is making it up??
22/05/2011, 12:47 AM
Noelys Guitar

Surely the "silent" NI supporters are ****ed off at this. It is monster raving looney stuff and they are leaving themselves open to serious ridicule both here and in the rest of the UK.
22/05/2011, 7:58 AM
Gather round

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Originally Posted by co. down green

It does seem strange that someone convicted of the murder of two Catholics and who is a senior loyalist paramilitary, is the sort of guy ni supporters would be keen to have as their spokesman. Maybe 'Winkie' will be offered a position within the IFA's Community Relations Dept. ;)

That would be nice. He'd be able to reminisce about time inside next time sports minister Caral ni Chiulin comes round for tea.

(Sory for the lazy whataboutery)
22/05/2011, 8:04 AM
Gather round

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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Surely the "silent" NI supporters are ****ed off at this. It is monster raving looney stuff and they are leaving themselves open to serious ridicule both here and in the rest of the UK

Indeed, although you can exaggerate these things. Fans in the rest of Britain aren't interested, and of course your own fans (and FA) have recent experience of widespread ridicule after the reaction to the France game in 2009. You seem t ohave got over it.
22/05/2011, 10:52 AM
awec

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

So you're saying FT is making it up??

He is not making it up, but what he is saying is totally irrelevant.

The political situation in Northern Ireland has resulted in plenty of ex-terrorists being in public office, the fact he is having a dig at someone who may not have a clean past is irony at its very best.
22/05/2011, 12:24 PM
ArdeeBhoy

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Originally Posted by Gather round

He'd be able to reminisce about time inside next time sports minister Caral ni Chiulin comes round for tea.

Except that Ms. ni Chiulin has an elected parliamentary mandate, would be unsure of Mr.Rea's exact 'credentials'....

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Originally Posted by Gather round

of course your own fans (and FA) have recent experience of widespread ridicule after the reaction to the France game in 2009. You seem t ohave got over it.

You mean EG's pathetic banner?? That was hardly 'widespread'.
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by awec

The political situation in Northern Ireland has resulted in plenty of ex-terrorists being in public office, the fact he is having a dig at someone who may not have a clean past is irony at its very best.

Except it's nothing to do with their past. It's their 'claiming a breach of their human rights' as FT said.
22/05/2011, 12:29 PM
awec

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Except that Ms. ni Chiulin has an elected parliamentary mandate, would be unsure of Mr.Rea's exact 'credentials'....

You mean EG's pathetic banner?? That was hardly 'widespread'.
:rolleyes:

Except it's nothing to do with their past. It's their 'claiming a breach of their human rights' as FT said.

Er, no. I was clearly referring to his "is that who Northern Ireland fans want representing them" post. You know I was too, poor deflection.
22/05/2011, 12:55 PM
ArdeeBhoy

Nice of you to say/interpret wrongly (or 'deflect poorly'), but share FT's bemusement.
Nothing more, nothing less.
22/05/2011, 1:17 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by co. down green

Maybe 'Winkie' will be offered a position within the IFA's Community Relations Dept. ;)

You never know - he'd maybe get a reference from Republican paramilitary Marty?

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/ne...114636319.html
22/05/2011, 1:42 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Except that Ms. ni Chiulin has an elected parliamentary mandate, would be unsure of Mr.Rea's exact 'credentials'....

Mr Rea will have an elected mandate from the 1st Shankill Northern Ireland Supporters Club to speak on their behalf.
22/05/2011, 3:09 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

the 1st Shankill Northern Ireland Supporters Club

Is there really such a thing?

Sounds like an army regiment or, dare I say it, a paramilitary unit. The name is is very poor taste in my opinion. What's wrong with NI Supporters Club, Shankill Bracnch or something normal?

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