I think it was Van Gaal we beatQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
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I think it was Van Gaal we beatQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
We beat Big Dick tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/matc...nd-netherlands
Look at that Dutch line up
I'd be pushing for Janne Andersson to take the job. Think the FAI need to forget this head coach stuff for the time being and just let the senior manager focus on the senior team. Somehow we actually jumped two spots in the latest rankings which sees us 27th when you exclude Russia. Only need to reach 24th to become second seeds for the upcoming WC. Think Andersson is the pragmatic type which could possibly get a couple of results to improve us before the WC draw.
Nico Kovac was mentioned on YBIG. Would be a great get
Was he the good looking doctor in ER?
Tis an emergency !Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
If he was the FAI would prob mistakenly hire Dr Nick from Simpsons insteadQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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Originally Posted by Olé Olé
There's a sentence I never thought I'd see on foot.ie
I was there, watching Big Dick getting beat
Great decoy run from Andy Reid for the goal.
Pervert....Quote:
Originally Posted by brine3
I come back every so often to read this then leave depressed again !
I feel your pain. I'm all about delayed gratification, but this is beyond the pale altogether.
At this point, I'd be happy to see Chris Hughton. He's always been in my top three choices since this thread began, never first but the one constant amidst the names that have come and gone. Not the most exciting football we're likely to see but well-structured, experienced at the top level, a touch of the legend about him, generally respected and a thoroughly decent man.
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Chris Hughton’s style of play is reliant on a sturdy defence. He opts to sit back, soaking up pressure and winning the game by a slim margin. Unfortunately for Hughton this defensive mentality didn’t work and as Forest became leaky at the back, they became even worse up top.
Attacking creativity was nonexistent and there was no emphasis on creating scoring opportunities. Each game Forest would look poor going forward, hardly testing opposing keepers. So even in games when Forest were level they rarely looked like taking the lead.
His game management was also questionable. Substitutions would often be used too late in the game to have an impact, or he would use like-for-like substitutes that couldn’t change the game. For example, in the 2-1 defeat against Cardiff, Phillip Zinckernagel, one of Forest’s better players, was replaced by the inconsistent Joe Lolley while the game was level. Forest later went behind and Johnson was taken off for Alex Mighten, a like-for-like change when a defensive player could have been taken off for a more attacking threat.
His stubbornness to change his style never waived. Forest would fall behind and the system would remain the same: two holding midfielders and a defensive set up – which impeded all chances of getting back into the game. If Hughton was open to changing his game plan, Forest might have more than a point to their name.
https://thefamousclub.co.uk/2021/09/...ingham-forest/
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Hughton had insisted on playing his new 4-3-3 formation when it was obvious it wasn’t working. The changing room looked lost to him when Plucky Little Bournemouth inflicted a heaviest home defeat on Brighton since 1973 and Cardiff City then won 2-0 at the Amex three days later.
The football itself had turned from dull-yet-effective to downright boring. At times, you wanted to scratch your eyes out.
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One of the major criticisms of Hughton was his style of football. Supporters had become bored of grinding out 1-0 victories, the atmosphere at the Amex was dissipating with each passing home game and if you were brave enough to go away, you knew that you’d be lucky to see a shot on target, let alone a goal.
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Watching Hughton pick the same players and same formation every week in the second half of last season became something of a soul destroying experience.
From the moment that the Albion threw away a 2-0 lead to lose 4-2 in the snow at Fulham as January came to a close, it became obvious that Hughton’s decision to move to 4-3-3 wasn’t working. Even Stevie Wonder could see it.
And yet Hughton persevered until the end of the April with the new formation. Either he was blind to the problems it was causing – exposed full backs, Dale Stephens not suited as a single holding player, Pascal Gross’ effectiveness blunted by not being in the number 10 role, no options good enough to play as the two wide strikers alongside Glenn Murray – or he was too stubborn to return to 4-4-1-1.
Two wins in 18 famously followed. When Hughton did finally abandon 4-3-3, it was for a fan-appeasing 4-4-2 against Newcastle United. That was even more of a disaster and came across as a desperate move, especially when Gross was the shoehorned in as a right winger.
Florin Andone was lucky to receive only a yellow card rather than a red within 30 minutes of kick off (sound familiar?) and Hughton hauled him at half time, finally switching back to 4-4-1-1.
That first half against Newcastle was arguably the worst 45 minutes of the season and a warning that Hughton was running out of ideas. When a manager begins making erratic decisions like using a formation that hasn’t been seen for two years, it’s normally a sign he is coming to the end of his tenure.
https://www.wearebrighton.com/newsop...n-one-year-on/
We are stacked in defence, but lacking in creativity. The appointment of a defensive minded coach, which Chris Hughton clearly is, would be a bad match for the players available to us. I'd be unhappy with a Chris Hughton appointment but everyone to their own.Quote:
This lack of imagination in their forward movement was a feature of Brighton’s attack all season and accounts for their struggle in scoring enough goals. By counter-attacking from the low block they often attack with few numbers, often just three players. Because they start from so deep, players are also asked to run 70-80 yards to join attacked meaning executing high-quality actions is difficult after sprinting such a long distance.
Individually they do not possess players who have qualitative superiority to consistently beat opponents 1v1, so the lack of quality and coordinated counter-attacking movement means they struggle to unbalance opponent defences often enough to provide a real threat.
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/he...premier-league
The only managers we're going to get are defensive minded managers. No manager that likes his team's to play ball is taking the Ireland.
you could argue we should play to our strengths so a defensive coach would therefore make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Agreed. A couple of positive results between now and November could see us become second seeds for the upcoming WC qualifiers. We've become too soft over the last while. Need to make things tough again for the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
A decade of 0-0's would be an atonement for all of our sins ! (wink)
How about two decades? (Kerr/ Trapattoni/ O'Neill/ McCarthy).Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
We are all going straight to heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
OGS anyone?
haha just seen that... would be an interesting one but his record is spotty at best. Decent in Norway, disappointing everywhere else (UK). Out of work for 3 years...
Seems to have shot to the top of the betting lists for no obvious reason. Much as they're an unreliable guide, his emergence from nowhere suggests that someone has got wind of something and has gone running to the bookies on the back of it.
Wasn't the real problem at United that they went above him to sign Ronaldo, who just didn't fit into their system? He did ok, but at the cost of unbalancing everything else. Third and second in his two full seasons was more than decent, even if the points total was quite modest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Bit surprising he's not going a job since then. Maybe he's happy having a break from the club stuff
Honestly, relative to most of the other names being bandied about at this point, it would be a decent result. Would mean they completely bull****ted Lennon, as Solsjkaer doesn't have international experience, and they also completely bull****ted the public as he doesn't have contractual obligations either. But he's still far from the worst name I've heard.
Yeah, i dont really follow United closely and the league placements speak for themselves as you rightly point out... i just remember a constant sentiment of disillusionment around OGS from some of my United mates at the time. Liverpool fans will not like this one - knives will be out, im sure, as they are for Baz from many in those quarters... don't get me wrong, i wouldnt hate this appointment at all, I just am not sure how good he is. Molde (is norwegian league a good level?), Cardiff (flop) and United (hard in some ways not to do well at United). If we were going for a Scandinavian, I think i'd prefer Janne Andersson.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...ger-next-week/
Assuming this is true, Canham and Hill should announce their resignations immediately after O'Shea's appointment.
Same, and Steve Bruce's odds have dropped to 7/2 so either the bookies are just trying to get some betting going again or someone said it's gonna be an ex United player so someone hedged their bets and put a tenner on each of Ole or Bruce.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Cumminsky tweeting that it's looking likely that JOS will be named manager with the FAI to make an appointment this Wednesday or Thursday. Though he also said the FAI were gonna replace Kenny after the September windows. His buddy Fallon said April 3rd was the date so they'll get it right eventually with all these guesses.
For all we know they told him he wouldn't be getting the job and he made up the part about wanting a manager with international experience to try save face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Do you really think Liverpool fans would be against it? Speaking as one, I'd have nothing against him per se. Seems like a very good guy. Obviously did well in Norway, to what value we can place on that. Cardiff didn't work out but it wasn't an easy job with a poor squad and dodgy owners. He was very briefly exactly what United needed, but in the long run he was found wanting. In fairness, no one has succeeded at United since Ferguson, Mourinho probably came closest. Still, I think the international game is different and it could work well. He has operated at an elite level and there have been plenty of worse names in the mix...Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I'd still suspect it's not one they've even had a conversation with. Probably someone saw Ole have lunch with John O'Shea or Ole and his family are on holiday in Ireland or something. And someone has put €500 on it. It happened with Johnny Giles. Giles met with John Delaney for a cup of coffee in Terenure to discuss Paul Jewell's managerial attributes, on the back of that good Wigan team he put together. Someone saw Giles and Delaney talking together, with Stan having just been sacked and put a tonne on Gilesy. My guess is it's something similar...
the same writer (and that's being kind) was sure enough to write this back in january.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...eland-manager/
Yeah, Cardiff seemed a disaster alright. I think there was an issue that in each of his four seasons at United (including the two half-seasons) he started really slowly, but then stormed through the second half of his full seasons. Would that have explained how he was viewed?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Norwegian league isn't a great level but his achievements at Molde were great. They'd never won the league before he arrived - then won three times in his first four-season spell, and won two Cups, and reached the group stages of Europe. It's not a fashionable club either (though they do have a couple of very rich local fans, which can't hurt)
That said, the Irish Times now reckons John O'Shea will be appointed next week. You'd hope that means everyone else fell through - maybe because Georgia got to the Euros? - but is there nobody better around? And I don't want to be too harsh on O'Shea by writing him off before he's started, but...
The craziest thing about JOS actually getting the job is the fact you know the FAI are gonna pay him the same salary that they were offering Carsley and Sagnol. Even €560k was too much when it was offered to Kenny.
That link to the John O'Shea article now brings you to an article saying things have taken another twist with OGS now in the frame to be the next manager ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Rewritten by Cummiskey almost as soon as it was published. Says it all really, none of them have a clue.
I was just being a bit cheeky and seeing who might pick up on it. I know most Irish fans put country over club with this stuff - - but all that said, based on who i think are Liverpool fans on here, I do think they put to some degree their club allegiance to Liverpool/Kelleher ahead of some logic related to Baz v Kelleher where my opinion is that Baz was the best overall candidate up until quite recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
I dont think it will be OGS though either...seems a bit fabricated. If it is JOS, the committee should be given their marching orders. Their position would be borderline untenable...
That's mad - the url is clearly JOS but yeah, the actual article has changed! It seems the only source is the betting odds?Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Sums it all up nicely, as Eirambler says.
Can we hope against hope that the clowns in all this are the journos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
We know enough at this stage to ignore the bookies and most journalists. We are 6 months in and have enough evidence to show that none of them have an inside track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I think it's noteworthy that most reported within an hour of each other this week that an appointment will be made next week. Maybe I'm naive, but to me that sounds like it's was intentionally released by FAI. If it's true then we aren't far off the early April date announcement that Canham says.
Only when we see the result of the process and who the new man in charge is can we say who the fools are.
I for one, would accept the Pep Linders revolution...