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16/10/2009, 11:12 AM
Two Touch

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

The basis of it was the complaining of the pitch being too small for a senior pitch and they cant wait for the return game on a bigger one,now tell me this do you or any of the lads on here class MSL 2nd division as senior or the 1st division for that fact?For me only the premier teams can be classed as senior teams,simple as that!I quoted the wrong message also so this might have caused confusion

One of the most ridiculous comments i've seen in a long time.
16/10/2009, 11:51 AM
ballsac7

The length of a pitch must be between 100 yards (90m) and 130 yards (120m) and the width not less than 50 yards (45m) and not more than 100 yards (90m).

For example Man City's pitch is 117yards x 77 yards - Millwall 105 x 68. Thats a big difference.
16/10/2009, 10:40 PM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by ballsac7

I think the comment left by El Nino was directed at Southsider not me. I just commented that I had heard from a buddy in Douglas that Crosshaven were good value for the draw and on the balance of the first half should have won it. Last nights Echo had a report and it seemed to reflect this.

Lads let get things straight i attacked no one on this forum. I agreed that a draw was a fair result i said that in my first post. Crosshaven were on top in the 1st half and we were on top in the 2nd half. I didnt use it as an excuse that we had players missng because i think our squad is good enough to replace 2 or 3 players. On the Echo report that was sent in by Crosshaven so it was a bit biased. He never stated the fact we should have had a penalty and the ball was inches from going in against them after they drew level when the report said the ref blew up straight after they level.
16/10/2009, 10:57 PM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

The basis of it was the complaining of the pitch being too small for a senior pitch and they cant wait for the return game on a bigger one,now tell me this do you or any of the lads on here class MSL 2nd division as senior or the 1st division for that fact?For me only the premier teams can be classed as senior teams,simple as that!I quoted the wrong message also so this might have caused confusion

What a post. What a load of s***e. You must have a short memory when your team were down the doldrums of division 1 when there wasnt even a 2nd SENIOR division. Just because us lower placed teams have not got the Sprattys and Marky Sulls of Avondale does'nt mean where not SENIOR teams. Does that mean so that Mayfield and Ringmahon are SENIOR teams this year cause their playing Premier but if they go back down at the end of the season their not SENIOR then. el nino i think your trying to stir things up on this thread and by the looks of the replies your getting you just have............
17/10/2009, 7:59 AM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by Evertonian

Just noticed the argument now. This message is coming all the way from the us of a. There are some great clubs in the first division and i enjoy nothing more than the competition of these clubs trying to get back to the pinnacle. But when it comes to the second division i have to draw a line. Junior Premier MSL and junior premier AUL is a better standard. The sooner people realise this the better.

From a fella who has played Premier AUL up until last season for a good few years i can honestly say that its not better than the 2nd division. The top teams in the AUL might beat the bottom 5 or 6 but they would not beat ourselves,Ballinhassig,Carrigaline and Crosshaven. As iv always said it's everyone to the their own but i'v been their and done that.
17/10/2009, 8:17 AM
ballsac7

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Originally Posted by Southsider

From a fella who has played Premier AUL up until last season for a good few years i can honestly say that its not better than the 2nd division. The top teams in the AUL might beat the bottom 5 or 6 but they would not beat ourselves,Ballinhassig,Carrigaline and Crosshaven. As iv always said it's everyone to the their own but i'v been their and done that.

Have to agree with you Southsider, I go to all games AUL Premier & any MSL games and see a lot of the action, I think most of the AUL Premier sides would struggle in the MSL 2nd bar maybe Leeside/Grattan who are consistently strong. I think a lot of the MSL 2nd Division sides have realised what it takes to get promoted and have signed players to reflect this. Karl Caulfield & Jason Keegan for example at Casement would get into most Premier MSL sides. Ballinhassig look strong as well this year. As for the early argument El Nino posted a throw away comment into a civilised discussion and all of the above posts are the consequence!
17/10/2009, 4:14 PM
AvondaleNutter

Douglas Hall 0 Avondale 1

Hughesy scored in 1st half for the dale against run of play. Hall dominated for long periods.

Dale were missing marky sull, spratty and mucky so they would be delighted to get away with all 3 points
17/10/2009, 4:44 PM
Billynomates

Fixtures are uphttp://www.isrscork.com/MSL.htm
18/10/2009, 7:55 AM
el nino coro

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Originally Posted by ballsac7

Have to agree with you Southsider, I go to all games AUL Premier & any MSL games and see a lot of the action, I think most of the AUL Premier sides would struggle in the MSL 2nd bar maybe Leeside/Grattan who are consistently strong. I think a lot of the MSL 2nd Division sides have realised what it takes to get promoted and have signed players to reflect this. Karl Caulfield & Jason Keegan for example at Casement would get into most Premier MSL sides. Ballinhassig look strong as well this year. As for the early argument El Nino posted a throw away comment into a civilised discussion and all of the above posts are the consequence!

I would agree that Karl would get in any team without a doubt but your suggesting jason keegan would get in most premier MSL teams is that why he joined casement in the senior 2nd and not everton ,douglas hall ,avondale give it a break now hes a waste of a jocks
18/10/2009, 9:24 AM
el nino coro

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Originally Posted by Evertonian

Just noticed the argument now. This message is coming all the way from the us of a. There are some great clubs in the first division and i enjoy nothing more than the competition of these clubs trying to get back to the pinnacle. But when it comes to the second division i have to draw a line. Junior Premier MSL and junior premier AUL is a better standard. The sooner people realise this the better.

ya i think your right maybe not the first division to certain extents but the 2nd is nothing short of laughable and anyone down there thinks there player senior are beliving there own lies
18/10/2009, 11:25 AM
el nino coro

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Originally Posted by archie

:ball:Agree, Both pitches in crosshaven are regulation size so that's no problem.Any manager worth his salt will use any means to try and overcome the opposision, like using a smaller pitch or wider pitch to throw them off their stride.Some teams do better on a wide pitch so playing on a narrow one may upset their play. Alternative use of two pitches also ensures that most games will go ahead especially in the winter (Good club management). All teams mentioned deserve their SENIOR status as their grounds and pitches are excellant and their contribution to the league over the years has been outstanding.:)

What do ya need so for senior status so a good pitch changing rooms and showers and then a load of headless chickens running around as the 11 stop the lights boy will ya
18/10/2009, 12:37 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

What do ya need so for senior status so a good pitch changing rooms and showers and then a load of headless chickens running around as the 11 stop the lights boy will ya

:ball: There's only one headless chicken here, You woul'nt know anything about football if it hit you in the face, relegation and promotion makes the leagues exciting and the wheel goes around, I wounder if you'll be so negative when you're lot go down, and it will happen.;)
18/10/2009, 2:13 PM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by ballsac7

Have to agree with you Southsider, I go to all games AUL Premier & any MSL games and see a lot of the action, I think most of the AUL Premier sides would struggle in the MSL 2nd bar maybe Leeside/Grattan who are consistently strong. I think a lot of the MSL 2nd Division sides have realised what it takes to get promoted and have signed players to reflect this. Karl Caulfield & Jason Keegan for example at Casement would get into most Premier MSL sides. Ballinhassig look strong as well this year. As for the early argument El Nino posted a throw away comment into a civilised discussion and all of the above posts are the consequence!

Agreed all round pal;)
18/10/2009, 2:27 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

do you play then fella?and whats your club?definately a 1st or 2nd division team il wager

:ball: Been there, done that. Been up there, went down and fought our way back up again, thats what it's all about, ENJOYMENT. You're approprietly an apprentice, you've a lot to learn sunshine:p, I concur with Ballynomates.:)
18/10/2009, 4:25 PM
rambler14

Things were quiet till you came along el nino coro!
18/10/2009, 8:57 PM
ballsac7

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Originally Posted by AvondaleNutter

Just to add to my post,

I think its best that the forum just ignores him and if you foolishly reply to this guy, try and blank out the fact that he "claims" his club is avondale.

Thanks guys, and i apologise from the Club about him.

Agreed
18/10/2009, 9:19 PM
AvondaleNutter

Any result from the Mount and Everton game guys?
18/10/2009, 9:27 PM
el nino coro

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Originally Posted by AvondaleNutter

Any result from the Mount and Everton game guys?

rockmount won 2-1
18/10/2009, 9:37 PM
razor

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

rockmount won 2-1

I heard Ray Leahy got both for Mount.
18/10/2009, 10:04 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by razor

I heard Ray Leahy got both for Mount.

:ball: Ya, He got both,Derec Varian for Everton
19/10/2009, 7:54 AM
razor

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Originally Posted by Evertonian

El nino coro is an idiot but

Lads , can we have an end to the personal attacks?
You should have the cop on not to react to him if he is a wind up merchant.
If he's not then it means he has a differing opinion, in which case there is no need to go calling anybody anything.
If you don't agree, then argue your point but leave the personal attacks out of it.
Wise up please.
19/10/2009, 10:17 AM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by AvondaleNutter

Any result from the Mount and Everton game guys?

Was at the game myself i thought Everton deserved a draw from it anyway. They tried to play football at times where as Rockmount had no intention to but then again why should they when they always seem to win:rolleyes:. Big crowd there aswell for a Sunday morning. CIT is some set up,pitch was immaculate. 2 set pieces and 2 Ray Leahy headers the 2nd was a diving header which was a very good goal. Varian scored for the Blues a great solo goal to level matters so it was 1-1 at half time. Everton are carrying 2 or 3 players which is the reason they will be 4th or 5th this year. If Varian actually decided to pass to his team mates Everton would be alot better off. He must have had 10 shots yesterday and 1 on target,i know people are gonna say sure he scored but you had to be there yeasterday to see the amount of ball he wasted. Best players were Danny Long and Terry White for Everton and Ray Leahy and Donnacha Murphy for the Mount.
19/10/2009, 10:34 AM
razor

From the Examiner

Lucozade Sport Munster Senior Cup second round:
College Corinthians 1 Midleton 2;
Tramore Athletic 0 Mayfield Utd. 3;
Bunratty 1 St. Mary�s 1 (aet); St. Mary�s won 5-4 on pens.

Senior Premier Div:
Ringmahon Rgs. 2 UCC 3
Douglas Hall 0 Avondale Utd. 1
Everton 1 Rockmount 2

Senior Div 1:
Cobh Wanderers 2 Leeds 1
Castleview 5 Youghal Utd. 1
20/10/2009, 12:13 PM
Billynomates

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Originally Posted by Southsider

Was at the game myself i thought Everton deserved a draw from it anyway. They tried to play football at times where as Rockmount had no intention to but then again why should they when they always seem to win:rolleyes:. Big crowd there aswell for a Sunday morning. CIT is some set up,pitch was immaculate. 2 set pieces and 2 Ray Leahy headers the 2nd was a diving header which was a very good goal. Varian scored for the Blues a great solo goal to level matters so it was 1-1 at half time. Everton are carrying 2 or 3 players which is the reason they will be 4th or 5th this year. If Varian actually decided to pass to his team mates Everton would be alot better off. He must have had 10 shots yesterday and 1 on target,i know people are gonna say sure he scored but you had to be there yeasterday to see the amount of ball he wasted. Best players were Danny Long and Terry White for Everton and Ray Leahy and Donnacha Murphy for the Mount.

Ray Leahy really did come back and bite everton in the arse. Stupid decision to let a man of his class and experience leave whne they ahve such a young side.
20/10/2009, 3:18 PM
archie

Big game in Crosshaven on Sat 3pm, local derby Crosshaven against Carrigaline, senior 2nd division, Been a while since these two met at senior level, Should be a cracker.
22/10/2009, 10:24 AM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by archie

Big game in Crosshaven on Sat 3pm, local derby Crosshaven against Carrigaline, senior 2nd division, Been a while since these two met at senior level, Should be a cracker.

Hopefully if this rain stops there might be a few games on. A draw will be a good result for us :)
22/10/2009, 3:40 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by Southsider

Hopefully if this rain stops there might be a few games on. A draw will be a good result for us :)

:ball: Forecast light rain tomorrow, cloudy sat and sun, most games should go ahead, Ye should take Temple just about, especially at home.Tight at the top of this league so far, early days,anyones title.:confused:
22/10/2009, 9:33 PM
Duster Bouglas

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Originally Posted by archie

:ball: Forecast light rain tomorrow, cloudy sat and sun, most games should go ahead, Ye should take Temple just about, especially at home.Tight at the top of this league so far, early days,anyones title.:confused:

Any know result of CIT V Ballinhassig
22/10/2009, 10:11 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by Duster Bouglas

Any know result of CIT V Ballinhassig

:ball: 1 all,on msl web.:)
23/10/2009, 10:06 AM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by archie

:ball: Forecast light rain tomorrow, cloudy sat and sun, most games should go ahead, Ye should take Temple just about, especially at home.Tight at the top of this league so far, early days,anyones title.:confused:

Ya we should have enough to beat Temple id still be wary of that Danny Dunne tho,he's very unfit but he knows where the goal is. watched them against Carrigaline there handy but ran out of steam last 20mins so id expect a home win tomorrow. Fair play to the MSL there updating the new website fast,that CIT result was in very quick. Lets hope they keep it up now.
23/10/2009, 10:19 AM
archie

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Originally Posted by Southsider

Ya we should have enough to beat Temple id still be wary of that Danny Dunne tho,he's very unfit but he knows where the goal is. watched them against Carrigaline there handy but ran out of steam last 20mins so id expect a home win tomorrow. Fair play to the MSL there updating the new website fast,that CIT result was in very quick. Lets hope they keep it up now.

:ball:Know a guy whose involved, he says quick updates on the web are no problem once the club's send their result in strait after games.
23/10/2009, 4:07 PM
Southsider

Casement V Temple is off tomorrow. Pitch is waterlogged :( !!!
23/10/2009, 7:24 PM
collcorforever

Just wondering do the 4 yellow cards count anymore??
I know a few lads who have 4 and have heard nothing.
23/10/2009, 11:13 PM
archie

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Originally Posted by collcorforever

Just wondering do the 4 yellow cards count anymore??
I know a few lads who have 4 and have heard nothing.

:ball: As far as I know 4 yellows = 20euro fine with a possible 1 or 2 match suspention (Depending on ref's reports etc) each yellow after that=10euro fine, maybe the clubs paid the fines, unknown to the players or the league are slow sending them out. ( I think players should pay their own fines, especially if the cards are for unessesary things like persitant foul language, mouthing at the ref or kicking the ball away etc ),Anyway, the lads are probably hung out to dry now if someone on the msl decipline commitee read these posts:(
24/10/2009, 9:13 AM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by collcorforever

Just wondering do the 4 yellow cards count anymore??
I know a few lads who have 4 and have heard nothing.

They still count. If they are doing it like last year you dont get notified by the MSL its up to your team to tell the players they are suspended for a match. Its not enforced like a straight red so thats why they heard nothing and thats why not many fellas get suspended for yellow cards. You'll get your notice for the fine to be paid tho:rolleyes:
24/10/2009, 9:52 AM
AvondaleNutter

Rockmount match called off due to heavy fog. Mount were 2-1 up at the time
24/10/2009, 4:21 PM
AvondaleNutter

Avondale and Ballincollig was called off. Not too sure why, as i heard the UCC and Everton game went ahead and they play on the same grounds.
24/10/2009, 4:39 PM
Duster Bouglas

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Originally Posted by Southsider

They still count. If they are doing it like last year you dont get notified by the MSL its up to your team to tell the players they are suspended for a match. Its not enforced like a straight red so thats why they heard nothing and thats why not many fellas get suspended for yellow cards. You'll get your notice for the fine to be paid tho:rolleyes:

There was a suggestion at the last delegate meeting that when a player reached 4 yellow card his name would go up on the website so all clubs knew where they stood. MSL are considering it.
24/10/2009, 9:23 PM
Southsider

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Originally Posted by Duster Bouglas

There was a suggestion at the last delegate meeting that when a player reached 4 yellow card his name would go up on the website so all clubs knew where they stood. MSL are considering it.

Not a bad idea i suppose but is too much trouble to post the suspension to the club secretary.The price of an envelope and stamp is not much and with all the of money there making from the cards in the first place and there would be no problem. Crosshaven won 3-1 today against Carrigaline. UCC beat Everton 1-0 aswell.
25/10/2009, 9:44 AM
ballsac7

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Originally Posted by Southsider

Not a bad idea i suppose but is too much trouble to post the suspension to the club secretary.The price of an envelope and stamp is not much and with all the of money there making from the cards in the first place and there would be no problem. Crosshaven won 3-1 today against Carrigaline. UCC beat Everton 1-0 aswell.

Was at the game yesterday Southsider - Crosshaven were good value despite a rough 15 minutes at the start of the second half. Carrigaline are poor - only for Ken Dennehy who must be about 40 and John Harrington they hadn't much. Must say it wasn't a great game to watch as the wind was spoiled things. Some fella with a shaved head got two for Crosshaven & Beezer. That puts Crosshaven top. Might go look at CIT next week, they've started well.

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