Champions League/Europa League draws 2010

Rovers beat Odra Wodislaw home and away in the Intertoto cup 7 years ago

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Footba.....-a0103970806

Nobody denied that. But as I said, the last time teams from Ireland and Poland met in a competition that wasn't the Inter Toto, Rovers lost the first leg 7-0

And you suggested a Polish side qualified for the Champion League every few years. None have done it in 14 years

Sorry I misread your post, I thought you said we played in the Intertoto 14 years ago.

And I wasn't suggesting Polish sides played in the CL, I was asking Colbert Report how often they did after he suggested they did often make it.

Fair enough, I put him on my ignore list last night so I don't see his posts

Dodge, will you marry me?

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Come on now, there's no need for name calling. If you have a problem with something I've written, let's discuss it. I am more than willing to change my position, I would love nothing more than to see a good domestic league in my home country.

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Whats your problem tho? No one is suggesting the loi is la Liga, but its ours.

You sit there crying about what happened in wales with bohs, news for you, thats football. Only a few weeks ago the World Champions finished bottom of their world cup group behind 11 farmers! It happens.

Rovers were great last night, and if Dan had of put the header away, you just never know. Better team won yes, but its no embarrassment losing to Rovers when you consider how the likes of Man utd and Real Madrid have been craved open by Italians teams in recent memory.

Basically, if you've nothing nice to say, is there really any point in bringing your negativity? It sounds like the loi molested you as a child.

In summary CR, we are right and you are wrong.
Deal with that uncomfortable fact how ever you see fit but preferably as far away from this forum as possible.

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Dodge, will you marry me?

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I'd better quote this so there's a chance Dodge will see it :)

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I'd better quote this so there's a chance Dodge will see it :)

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Think the chances of the offer being taken up might improve if pat's win the fai cup.

Colbert Report - your opening comments about the juve team last night would seem to show you up for what you are. Others have covered the main points, and better than I could put them, but I will add this.

Next time you're bemoaning another irish failure to qualify for a major international tournament and blaming the lack of quality players - ask yourself where those players are supposed to come from? The continuing reliance on foreign clubs to develop our young players is not sustainable. And unless people are prepared to support their local team - at whatever level - there will be fewer coming through.

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I would love nothing more than to see a good domestic league in my home country.

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It would be great to see a Dublin team compete in the English league, similar to how Cardiff are part of the English football set up.

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Make up your mind.

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The point is, although Celtic have been beaten badly and are currently not a great or even good team, they have the potential to compete seriously in Europe. There is no team in Ireland that is able to say this. I am 26 and I've never seen a team from Ireland compete seriously anywhere outside of the domestic league.

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Ask yourself why Celtic - a team in a city of 1.5m (similar to Dublin) in a country of 5m (similar to Ireland) are able to have this great potential you speak of. Perhaps the answer is that they have millions of proud Irish people all over the world throwing their cash at them as well ? If that money went on an Irish team instead - or even just a fraction of it - you'd soon see the gap between Celtic and Irish sides narow dramatically. Though you're obviously too blinkered and misty-eyed to grasp that.

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It would be great to see a Dublin team compete in the English league, similar to how Cardiff are part of the English football set up. I know I'll be slaughtered on here for saying it but it would really help spread excitement and interest in the sport.

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You are, in fact, right here Colbert. I'd go even further and say it would be great to see an Irish side compete in the World Cup and the European Championships. But the Republic of Ireland is just a weak team playing poor football. People can spot rubbish a mile off, and no-one wants to pay good money to watch the sort of muck that the Irish national side serve up when they can watch Brazil, Italy and England from the comfort of their own living rooms.

So it would be even greater to see a British Isles team, with one or two Irish players playing alongside the greats from England, similar to how the Catalunyan and Basque players turn out for Spain. It would really help spread excitement and interest in the sport. So get rid of that avatar opf youras and see the light. Hell - maybe we should just do away with independence altogether. That would really help spread excitement and interest....

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I'd much rather watch Manchester United vs. Liverpool than my local schoolboy team. Does this make me less of a football supporter? Most LOI snobs would say yes.

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Well for me it's about being at a live match, rather than watching it at home.
Now, Bray aren't having a great season, but I still much prefer being at the Carlisle ground than watching any other match on TV.

I've been to Old Trafford a few times and unless you're sitting in the Stretford End the atmosphere isn't great.

I know the LOI isn't great - but it's live football.
It's being an active part of the support.
It's about leaving the ground gutted coz Dundalk have scored a last minute winner.
Or leaving the ground on a high coz you've finally beaten UCD this season and you're into a final (not one that many people care about, I admit).
That ticks all the boxes for me.

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Or leaving the ground on a high coz you've finally beaten UCD this season and you're into a final (not one that many people care about, I admit).

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Or sitting chatting with Dutch and Vietnamese friends who are mocking you because your team's losing to Bray 1000 miles away in a Leinster Senior Cup semi... :(

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It would be great to see a Dublin team compete in the English league, similar to how Cardiff are part of the English football set up. I know I'll be slaughtered on here for saying it but it would really help spread excitement and interest in the sport. I grew up in north Kildare and I don't think I ever heard anyone EVER talk about the LOI when I was a young lad. It was all Man U this and Aston Villa that. How can you accuse me of being a fair weather supporter when I was never exposed to the league even in the fifteen years I lived in the place?

We have the supporters. We have the money. People aren't fools and they can spot rubbish a mile away. Why should they be expected to shell out their hard-earned dough on a sub-standard product like watching Bohemians get thrashed four nil when the top teams in the world play every night in their living room?

I live in North America. I have no local team to support, as I stated previously my nearest professional team is 1350km away so you can hardly blame me for not turning out to their matches. Why should I have to watch the MLS? I'd rather watch the Champions League instead.

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Sweet jesus!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know the rep of Ireland isn't part of the UK????

Irish people are not football supporters, hell they even go in their thousands to watch gah games. Football isnt our thing.

I have no local team. Doesnt stop me going to LOI games.
If you have no local team then why not get off your arse (Oo barstool)and start up a team
Or maybe leave this site and go and join the HoganStandforums

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Fair enough, I put him on my ignore list last night so I don't see his posts

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Tx - must remember to do this likewise:D

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If you have no local team then why not get off your arse (Oo barstool)and start up a team
Or maybe leave this site and go and join the HoganStandforums

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Who am I supposed to play against? There are no teams in Canada, save for Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver.

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Who am I supposed to play against?

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SkStu...;)

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Who am I supposed to play against? There are no teams in Canada, save for Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver.

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WUM...

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. barstoolers wouldn't support Dublin FC unless they were instantly successful in the league, and in Europe. That pretty much means top 4. Which means over £200 million on transfer fees, a similar amount each year in wages, plus signing-on fees, agents fees, and all the rest. Where's the money going to come from? And even if we had a quarter of a billion odd just lying around, it would be far better spent on the league we already have. New facilities, blanket marketing, proper professionals running the clubs instead of well-meaning volunteers...

The idea doesn't make sense on any level.