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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
No it doesn't, not for one minute. Given that the team itself is made up of players from those clubs I don't see how it makes them hypocrites, are the players hypocrites? There's no hard and fast rule that determines or links club support to national team support. You support who you support, its a shame more Irish clubs don't get support but there's reasons for that, the challenge is to turn it around.
Because at least they once were good and maybe someday will be again.The same cant be said for Rovers and the likes.Quote:
ainsie: if you're not a follower of 'second rate soccer' (sic) why do you support the Republic of Ireland? How could that bunch of useless micks ever be worthy of your fantastic support?
And I'm not going to answer that other bigoted twit, because all he does is insult, without the cop to debate. He should take his place alongside the GAA bigots that did not want to share. This debate was changed to another Eircom League rant long before my post. I was replying, read back.
Come on Ireland in the Rugby!!! and I wont be going to AIB league games either just because I support my country.
I wont be going to Santry to watch Interprovincial Athletics but will support Ireland at the big Championships.
So the people on here that support Ireland at anything and dont support the grass roots of the same sport are all Hypoctites in the eyes of people on here. Correct??? Well as long as they apply that to themselves when they are shouting for Ireland at any sport then they can preach to me about not giving a sh*t about the EL.
How would you know ? An honour to take abuse off someone of your knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
And by the way it's the height of hypocrisy to support Ireland whilst supporting an english club.
Ireland v england and you would support Ireland yet if an Irish club plays mankpool or the like you would support the english club. That is hypocrisy.
KOH
Well that makes you a big-game bandwagon jumper and not a hypocrite. I'll let the readers decide which is worse......Quote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
KOH
Dig deep, if thats your arguement why are you even supporting an English game?? Just support the GAA
I do try to explain myself, will you just stop spouting off the first crap that come out, and explain why supporting my country all my life in different sports, when they are losing or winning is a band wagon jumper, pleaseQuote:
Well that makes you a big-game bandwagon jumper and not a hypocrite. I'll let the readers decide which is worse......
ainsie: thanks for your response. At least you are honest enough to admit that you follow Ireland because they were once good, and not because they're Irish.
But if that's your sole criterion for supporting Ireland, why don't you support a better national team instead? After all, the same logic prevents you from supporting an Irish club.
I have followed your advice and now support Italy. They're far better than Ireland ever will be, and are the reigning world champions. No more substandard international 'soccer' for me! Venuto su voi ragazzi in azzurro!!!
I never understand this devotion to English teams. Fair enough, follow teams with Irish players and once they get rid of them follow the next club with most. Otherwise, as His Lord-ship says, follow a team worthy of gloryhunting. It's basically the same.
You can normally tell the year of birth of certain Irish followers of the more (now) crappy English teams. Nott'm Forest and Ipswich (between 1968 and 1970). Brighton (1970-74). Blackburn (1985-1989). I'm sure you can add a couple of others (Wimbledon? Coventry?). If this rings true with anyone here, you are sadder than the sad. :D
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Originally Posted by Peadar
fair enough
second rate product? have you seen it lately? i presume not. why do you support ireland then? why not support brazil, they produce a consistantly good product.Quote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
Read the post aboveQuote:
ainsie: thanks for your response. At least you are honest enough to admit that you follow Ireland because they were once good, and not because they're Irish.
I saidI support them NOW, in the past, and even further back than that. But I give up. OK I'll start supporting the EL if it makes me more Irish which seems to be the point.Quote:
explain why supporting my country all my life in different sports, when they are losing or winning is a band wagon jumper, please
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The worst one is the Tricolour with Ashbourne says Howya. Now thats embarrasing. ;)
with you there man... Ive seen fights starting over people supporting rival clubs in towns they have never set foot in... madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
Sunderland bandwagon pulling out of the station... ALL ABOARD!
i have read the majority of posts in this thread. I genuinely cannot understand how anybody can defend a person who defaces the flag with the name of a club from England. It really is a pathetic state of affairs that people have more pride in foreign clubs than in their local clubs. There is no excuse whatsoever for 'CHELSEA' to be sprawled across a tri-colour. Anybody who thinks this is normal is not worth talking to. Reading this thread just reminded me why I couldn't be bothered supporting the national team. Give me Shels playing in the LSL any day. Sad.
What about 'defacing' the flag with the name of a team from Scotland, Wales or Northern Irleand or any other country? or is it only teams from England?Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgo
Personally, I have no issue with anyone who takes an Irish flag with the name of their favourite club on it to a game which that club are playing in, whether in be in England or anywhere else. But at Ireland games, as much as I hate to see people wearing club shirts, I hate seeing Ireland flags with club names plastered all over, regardless of from wherever those clubs are from.
Is that so far back that it's like garlic bread (the future)? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ainsie
Damn Derry City fans! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
I have nothing at all against England for a start. My point is - it's embarrassing that people are so fanatical about clubs across the water that they feel the need to declare this at an Ireland game. Can you really not see that? Tell me this...where else would you see this carry on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
Its against the constitution to deface a tricolour, guinness logos and day keogh included
There is no provision in the constitution for defacing the tricolour. However you may remember that Guinness was criticized by the government during the 2002 WC for selling Irish flags with the Guinness logo. But there is no law or constitutional bar to defacing the flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
The Dept of the Taoiseach has specificed protocols for respectful usage of the flag: these include:
17 The National Flag should never be defaced by placing slogans, logos, lettering or pictures of any kind on it, for example at sporting events.
18 The National Flag should not be draped on cars, trains, boats or other modes of transport; it should not be carried flat, but should always be carried aloft and free.
And to answer the original poster's question; ignorance.
does carting some want-to-be republican around in a coffin count as a mode of transport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
I can remember Andy Townsend, during his playing days, referring to the Tricolour as "the good old Orange, White and Green" !!!
and in the Ivory Coast they still remember him well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Niall Quinn also recounts how Charlie Haughey dropped into the Irish dressing room after defeat to the Italians in 1990.
When Haughey left - Townsend asked "Who was that old Geezer?"
Cascarino replied - "F*ck knows. But Quinny says he owns a "Tea Shop".