There was absolute deluge of hail before KO aside from the one during. I can understand people turning back if that was the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
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There was absolute deluge of hail before KO aside from the one during. I can understand people turning back if that was the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Weekend attendances:
Premier Division:
St Pat's v Bohemians - 5,013
Shelbourne v Shamrock Rovers - 4,755
Sligo Rovers v Derry City - 4,317
Dundalk v Galway United - 3,122
Drogheda United v Waterford - 2,059
TOTAL: 19,266
First Division:
Finn Harps v Cork City - 2,010
Kerry v Bray Wanderers - 520
UCD v Treaty United - 377
Cobh Ramblers v Athlone Town - 367
TOTAL: 3,274
Total Weekend: 22,540
Total Overall: 57,056
Average Premier: 4,313
Average First: 1,548
Overall Average: 3,003
Great Harps crowd there. Personally I think a 12-team PD (as we had until recent years when the league struggled to attract new entrants) with both Harps and Cork added to the top tier would be the dream scenario re attendances,Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I've obviously missed something, but why was the game at TC?Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Laying a new artificial surface…Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
St Colmans changing to astro, work still going on
Saw something online by them last night that they will be movin back to St Colmans ahead of schedule as work progressed quicker than expectedQuote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
3011 in Galway, 2914 in Derry, 691 in Kerry, 3238 in Cork, 1527 Finn Harps.
3087 in the showgrounds
It was unimaginably cold today in Galway, one of the coldest days I can remember in years. EDP is an ice box in the summer let alone March. That's a great crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Kerry attendance since changed to 720.Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Injury hit weekend for the attendances:
Premier Division:
Sligo Rovers v Shelbourne - 3,087
Derry City v St Pat's - 3,014
Galway United v Waterford - 3,011
First Division:
Cork City v UCD - 3,238
Finn Harps v Athlone Town - 1,527
Kerry v Treaty United - 720
TOTAL: 14,597
Good crowds in almost all of these games. With full respect to UCD that can be a hard sell to increase numbers, only as it was our opening game last season we got 3,100 v them.
Nigel, any reason apart from obvious LOI surge across the country (not sure we have seen it) but also not sure your crowds were this healthy at the start of last season, and finally respect again (using a lot), would imagine not too many ATFC fans travelled North, or maybe they did.
On us, I would seriously doubt we will get close to opening game v Galway of 3,200 or so v Sligo on Mon night, I`d be thinking over 2,500 would be good.
There were about 10-15 Athlone fans in the away section. Not sure if any made their way over to the main stand, but on a bitter cold night, good to see 1500 home fans or thereabouts.
Great to see, always a huge FH core support.
I only been to Finn Park once, and it was almost like hitting the jackpot stuff, possibly 2016, in middle of Kenny era and mid summer, we won 6-0, possibly 7 even, but a great trip.
Very friendly folk around town, and had a great night in Jacksons Hotel.
Speaking of UCD increasing numbers, the FAI app now gives our game against Treaty as 430, not 377 as originally stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
One for the archives, just look at this attendance in Dalymount for what most are saying in a 1967 game, between Bohs and Dundalk.
https://x.com/DundalkFC/status/1763158931688300599?s=20
One for the archives.
Just look at the crowd at Dalymount in this 2 min or so clip, from what a lot are saying is a 1966 or 67 game between Bohs and Dundalk.
https://x.com/DundalkFC/status/1763158931688300599?s=20
Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Looking at those old games and situations means old attendance records will never be threatened. But what we are seeing now does need a bit of looking at to understand why it is happening, whether it can be sustained, spread or grown. While I think work done by Rovers, Bohs, Pats in the last number of years in the community has been part of that, the Shels situation is differeent, and they managed to grow crowd in their second season back up, and looks like they will sustain that.
Did a comparison before with non League in England, but Shamrock Rovers 6k average last season would be 13th in League 2.
The 60's was an amazing time for attendances in LOI, I had a manager once in a bank in Dublin, Rovers fan, told me busses used to be queued up Stephens Green to go to Milltown in 60's.
Dundalk highest domestic crowd was 12k v Rovers in Shield Final 1967, first year of the new oriel park, the current main stand was into final stages and photos out there of workers sitting on the reams. Cue 10 years or so later, the 1976 league winners played in front of 5,000 v PSV in a 1-1 draw v 3 of the Dutch 1974 WC finalist squad, the tide was turning. 1972-1975 = Full Colour TV, enter the dragon, MOTD and the Big Match.
It kind of suited us growing up, mainly early 80's, winter season, the big match on UTV at 1.15, play football on the streets, then head to oriel park, 3.30 kick offs as one of only 3 grounds that had lights, late dinner, but older members will recall the wonderful MTUSA with Fab Vinny, 2-6 on Sundays, 83 - 85 ??? that had to have a huge impact on LOI crowds?
Sunday LOI v now, seems lightyears away.
There were buses running 80+ minutes into the football-orientated bits of West Donegal to Harps games in the early 70s. Wild stuff.
Re: LTFC, Shels have an excellent community officer now fwiw. The same one Rovers used to have!
A little comparison -
The average attendance in the Irish League this season is 1,659
Lingfield - 3684
Glentoran - 2,545
Coleraine - 2,529
Larne - 1,988
Cliftonville - 1,913
Crusaders - 1,580
Ballymena - 1,398
Glenavon - 1,083
Newry - 926
Loughall - 792
Dungannon - 714
Carrick Rangers - 690
The average attendance across the National League in England is about 2,700 - although this is distorted by 3 clubs - Chesterfield with 7,683, Oldham with 6,897 and Southend with 6,323. Lowest - Oxford City 970
The average attendance in League 2 is 6,100 - with about half above and have below - highest is Bradford with about 16,000 and the clubs in the 3,000-6,000 range include (lower to higher) Colchester - Newport - Crewe - Grimsby - Gillingham - Tranmere.
Average attendance across League 1 is 9,500 - with the highest at Derby (26,500) and the lowest at Burton Albion (3,300) and Fleetwood (3,500)
Lowest attendance in the Championship is Rotherham (10,700) - and in the PL both Bournemouth and Luton at 11,000
In the Scottish PL the average is 16,000 - but only 5 clubs get above this - Celtic Rangers, Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen - the average of the remaining 7 clubs is 5,350 - and all of these clubs get attendances boosted by playing Celtic and Rangers. Lowest is Livingston at 3,500
The average in the Scottish Championship is 3,400 - Dundee 8,000 - Queens Park 1,660
1,100 in SL1
and 570 in SL2
There are big variations across highest average to lowest across the premier leagues in most European countries
Austria - highest - Rapid Wien 16,700 - lowest - WGS Tirol 2000
Belgium - Club Brugge 21,000 - KAS Eupen 3,150
Croatia - Hajduk Split 22,000 - Slaven Belupo 1,100 (a majority of the Croatian clubs get less that 3,000)
Czech Rep - Slavia Prague 17,600 - Jablonek 2,600
Denmark - Copenhagen 26,600 - Hvidovre 4,100
Greece - AEK 24,400 - Kifisias 546 (Morgan Schneiderlin, formerly of Southampton, Man U and Everton, plays for Kifisias)
Holland - Ajax 48,000 - Almere 4,100 (Excelsior get a fraction higher)
Hungary - Ferencvaros 9,800 - Puskas 1,850
Poland - Legia Warsaw 24,500 - Puszcza Niepo?omice 2,800
Portugal - Benefica 58,000 - Arouca 1,860 (12 of the 18 teams in the Portuguese PL get less than 5,000)
Romania - FCSB 14,500 - Voluntari 1,100
Slovakia - average attendance across the league is 2,400 and only one club get over 5,000 (DAC 5,465)
Slovenia - Maribor 3,200 - Radomije 380
Switzerland - Young Boys 28,000 - Lausanne-Ouchy 2,500
Turkey - Galatasary 41,000 - Fatih Karagümrük 810 (six teams get less than 3,000)
UCD done that loads last year too, had a really official looking attendance figure on the night, and a few days later would round it up to some random number that was higher. Don't understand it. Kerry the same the other night. How does an official attendance count change?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Would the initial figure be the attendance and the revised one be tickets sold?
Could be online tickets as an initial figure and then cash tickets added. Not really sure. Thought it happened with more than just us an Kerry from this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Great crowd - but bloody heck, I think the foot.ie discussion about "Worst standard LoI ever" has to take a new direction!Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Just Kerry and UCD this year so far. Derry also change theirs, and definitely a few others last year had a few amended figures. UCD add a figure to FAI Connect after a game, and almost every one of them changed as the season went on last year!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Indeed, some of the defending, just booting it out for a corner, and both sides seem to have trouble controlling the ball in most passes, still good to see it, not too many tv's in 1966 or 67, radio was king these days, hence the crowds flocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Great to see it for sure - and in colour too. Cheers for sharing it! Can see the bit of the stand sold off to become the Mater car park. Radio was king - also meant we didn't know what we were missing across the water too.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Actually just realised, after slagging off the quality of the play, if it is 1966/67, we won the league that season !!
The huge Nestcafe Sign, that was our spot for some of the cup finals I went to as a kid, I remember standing there for cup semi final in 1979 v Cork Alberts and the final v Waterford.
Ta, now getting someone in who knows what their doing, what works and what doesent, that is great and looks it is paying off already!Quote:
Originally Posted by cláirseach
Great find !is it me or how come is there no sound from audio?Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Its standard cine reel footage didnt have sound, not til 1973 but still very rare. VHS was when A/V became the norm but cameras were carried on shoulders they were that big and heavy, but of a hassle to take to a game....i still find it oddly amusing to think back now that everyone has a HD digital cam in their back pocket.
3076 in Waterford, 2047 Drogheda, 1663 Dundalk, 4883 Rovers.
Other than Dundalk, terrific attendances on a Monday night.
Approx. 200+ away support in the RSC from St. Pats,Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Approx. 200+ away support in Tolka from Galway,
Approx. 50+ away support in Oriel from Sligo,
Other than a ban on away support at Drogheda, terrific away attendances on a mostly wet Monday night.
A special well done to all the travelling away support! :)
I thought Tallaght looked sparesely populated on TV. The weather obviously pushed everyone out of the lower rows, and there was little shown of the North Stand, but the new South Stand is really spreading the crowd at games out thin if the ground was almost 50% full and yet still looked fairly empty on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Dundalks crowd really poor, for a town with a population of over 40k and so much tradition they dont seem to be getting any benefit from the resurgence in interest
Drogs a bigger crowd than Dundalk :-| didn't expect that and Drogs must be close to capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Saw a photo of the Galway support and it looked a lot bigger than 200.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
I think the section in the East stand allocated to away support holds about 350 seats with about 50 empty spaces for security included.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
200+ means a lot bigger than 200.
Maybe 2 to 300 so! :confused: