I think that's the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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I think that's the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
from watching the rte commentary on the last few games i think johnny giles really rates mcshane , as a player and as a fellow hard man !
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Sunderlandbohs, there was a crucial game late in the 2004/5 season (Ipswich away?) where Sunderland were 2-1 down late on. Do you remember?
I remember it well. I was at it:D! He came on for Chris Brown along with Brian Deane. He also had a hand in the 2nd for Robinson if I'm not mistaken. He scored 2 crackers against newcastle & man utd if anyone can remember. The lad has still got a lot to offer.
Newcastle goal:Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
Some run to set it up too
Had a great chance in that game towards the end when lobbed Given but hit the cross bar. Reports in Sunderland suggest McShane could be a Sunderland player by Monday. Thats the word among the locals. Kevin Moran was in one of the morning papers saying if he moves McShane will become a key player for Ireland for many years to come.
I remember that, I was disappointed he didn't score. I think he also had a great chance of a second against Man U, but Van Der Saar blocked a shot from close range, or maybe he put it just wide, on the turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
In the Italy friendly he made space for himself brilliantly, losing his marker and placing a half-volley across the goal which was well saved by Buffon. Lesser keepers would have been beaten. His goal in Cyprus looked easy enough but that turn and half volley was actually technically very difficult. Again, many would have fluffed it or failed to connect.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Midgets can do well in the Championship where their pace will win out. In the Premiership and other top league they come up against equally pacey defenders and that leaves them where if they don't have the physique or extra special technical ability?
Back to the Championship I am afraid like Connolly and others.
I accept all your points, but Elliott did OK in the Premiership at the start. Michael Owen, Defoe, Keane all do OK. Elliott has great positioning. Whether that's enough I don't know.
Continuing to digress from McShane: Celtic on verge of signing top scorer in UEFA U21 Championships for £400k. Nugent, with no goals (?) in same tornament, is £6 million.
Elliot had fantastic potential but missed two seasons of development at a crucial stage,Whether this seriously hinders his progress remains to be seen.
Shame because he is talented.I would be a little hesitant in going ott about McShane.He has a lot of attributes but it could take a couple of years for him
to find his worth.
Lampard didn't get any goals for England in the WC, would you call him ****?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I would, but for a whole lot of other reasons than not scoring in the World CupQuote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
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Actually I wouldn't call him **** but I would call him severely over-rated and (at best) a luxury for most teams
Also Lampard isnt a striker. but has proven that he can score goals when placed in the riight situations
I wouldn't call him a striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Looks like McShane is heading to Wearside
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
More here in today's Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...op-892782.html
Could be a double bonus if Foley's move to WBA comes through
Some more on that here: http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/fron...?newsid=169197Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
Could make sense if McShane does move to Sunderland, he plays right back for WBA, so there'll be an opening in defence.
Much less likely now, I'd say. There was a report on Wednesday that Keane had lost patience with WBA for messing him around over McShane and Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
Now it looks as if he's turned to Chris Baird:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/6278052.stm
It's possible that he wants Baird to play right back instead of Robinson, since Chris has played there several times (he can even fill in as defensive midfield holding player, if need be).
However, his natural position is centre back, where he was Saints POTY last season.
baird looks a very solid player , will be a pity if mcshane is not playing premiership this season.
Baird and McShane aren't necessarily mutually exclusive acquisitions. Bray People had an article yesterday saying McShane is close to signing with Sunderland but the portion of the deal involving other players (Elliot/Robinson) may not be happening. Not sure if they are reporting old news or have their own sources though. Keane's clearly looking for two more defenders at a minimum though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
http://www.braypeople.ie/sport/other...ch-993880.html
Yeah Mc Shane has passed medical and just agreeing fee with brom at moment as initially we were buying robinson and mc shane but robinson failed medical. So Mc Shane fee is now to be agreed.
Reports in Sunderland said a player failed a medical last week. It's believed to be McShane. A hip injury. Although its said that the deal isnt dead yet. Might be why Keane has moved for Baird. Also Sunderland have linked with a Danish international whose a centre half as well. This could be a problem for McShane in the long term.
I recall the articles I read on it saying that Sunderland still wanted McShane, but at a reduced fee.
Some on the message boards say it was Robinson that failed the medical...
I don't like the sound of that news. McShane injured his hip serious enough before he went to Brighton and the reports were that he was playing through a hip injury at the end of last season with West Brom.
what exactly goes into a medical? i mean what tests do they do or is it just previous examinations/injuries that are used as a basis? how did he get to west brom without any difficulty was this a free transfer? is a medical really just a way of lowering the fee for a player?
doesn't look good anyway its almost 2 weeks now and heard nothing since....
No, plenty of players have had moves scuppered when they failed medicals (Hartson to Rangers, Gabi Milito to Real Madrid, Huth to Middlesbrough)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I presume they'd check heart, lungs, liver etc as well as blood and urine tests. Genreal fitness probably tested too
ya so a general exam basically that any individual gets bi-annually with a private healthcare company. I just cant really figure out how they would find problems with someones hip unless they were to look at medical records and make assumptions.....you cant predict into the future if a previous injury will cause problems in 2, 3 5 or 10 years...
i know failed medicals have prevented player transfers before I just wondered how much they can really gauge from one.
Then there's the Real Madrid "can you lift this pen and sign your name" medical, Owen, Woodgate, etc all passed
The report on 11 a side says McShane has a hip problem, That's about 2 years now since it started, he was out for 2 months at one stage.
It's possible that he was okay for the physical when he signed for West Brom. He aggravated the hip in Feb or March but kept on playing.
It doesn't sound good failing a physical on the hip now. I suppose we will hear more soon. Maybe Newcastle will put in a bid.
Villa were reportedly interested in him last season, but that seems to have cooled off nowQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Newcastle's physical can't involve very much, I thought that might have been his best bet :)
Anyway I'd regard a chronic injury situation more of a barrier to his progress than which club he plays for.
didnt everyone say roy keane had a "hip problem" as well and that it wouldlimit his playing.....its all a load of ******.
Having said that something like a hip problem so young doesnt sound too good, it something that will probably effect him for ages. what exactly is it, is one leg longer than the other :D
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Keane's hip problem forced him to retire !!
McShanes has a problem with the hip joint... it could be the start of an arthritis problem, bascically first signs of erosion of the cartilage has been detected... depending on how slow/fast that progresses could ultimatley lead to him requiring a hip replacement.... hopefully it won't impede him for good number of years.
Just back from holidays to read about McShane, Garvan, rumours about Stokes...
WTF is going on?
Richard Sadlier, Thomas Butler, Thornton. When will it bloody end?
hmmm, im not so sure about that ;)Quote:
Keane's hip problem forced him to retire !!
the problem with that is its usually down to one leg being slightly longer than the other calcio jack, at least in the case of arthiritis and cartilage damage, the hip doesnt move in normal circular motion, if that is the case then it is quite serious.
i assume this is as good as over now:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/...underland.html
pity i would have loved to have seen mcshane in the premiership - this year.
That transfer wouldn't have much bearing on McShane- Baines is a left back.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea