stupid to record it, no issue with them singing it.
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stupid to record it, no issue with them singing it.
Granted, dressing rooms aren't going to be picky about such things, but the biggest crime was probably against musical taste!
https://genius.com/The-wolfe-tones-c...ymphony-lyrics
Or by any objective study of history.
It's as incomprehensible to fetishise terrorism as it is to tug the forelock at someone whose ancestors sponsored state terror. Proper republicanism would dismiss both, Irish republicanism is a ba5tardised mish mash of ideas that without 'Brits out' glue to hold it together falls apart.
This will be gone from the news cycle by tonight. Thankfully. It's a distraction from something we should be celebrating caused by a few people not engaging their brain in the heat of the moment.
The Brits will be awful upset when they find out what our anthem is about?
This is getting too political, and way off topic. If you want to compare and contrast the Republican and nationalist values of various songs, take it to the current affairs folder
If you want to continue discussing the implications of the Irish women's team singing the Celtic Symphony, you can do that here
It was silly. Especially for a team that?s essentially a United Ireland team from the whole island.
It doesn?t exactly make the team a welcome proposition for players from a different background.
Never forget our history and the sacrifices of those who died for their vision of Ireland but it?s time to move on somewhat.
Well done to the ladies. Looking forward to cheering them on.
PS the irony of them wearing that dodgy orange kit while singing ?Celtic Symphony? wasn?t lost on me :)
Considering the age of the women, I seriously doubt they had a grip on the sense of the add on chorus.
The CS is a Celtic support tune 100%, with a republican add on chorus line, not a pro IRA song.
Nevertheless, it was a good thing Alan Kelly (concern for his blood pressure) wasn't in the dressing room:)
A truly magnificent night for Irish football, not just to qualify for the WC but to do it in such controlled style away from home and after a group campaign where they clawed their way back into contention by deservedly beating the 2nd seeds, both home and away and even managed to nab an unlikely draw against one of Europe's top teams. Considering the DUP inspired furor, the retort is "there's only one women's team in Ireland"
Indeed, it's how it sounds, which is very much a stuck-in-the-past kind of sound.
Anyway, if it wasn't for all the ruckus I wouldn't have found out about it, so well done Ireland.
This means an extra interest for my Aussie daughters next year. Might even get me to a game.
Sure at least its a load of publicity and money for that 10th rate bunch of hacks The Wolfe Tones
Indeed. I wasn?t familiar with the song in question (though I knew the chant of course, lifted from ?ooh ah Paul McGrath? , or ?Oops upside your head.? For those of us old enough) so I checked it out this morning. What a steaming pile of dung, regardless of any political opinions.
Celtic Symphony at number 1, 2, 17, and 36 in the Irish iTunes chart. It's number 2 and 15 in the UK iTunes chart. Should rerelease it for the Christmas charts for the ****s and change the up the ra part to ooh ah up na mn?.
Come Out Ye Black and Tans at number 12, Sean South at number 15, and Boys of the Old Bridge at number 34.
Mostly my feelings on this are surprise and disappointment - I really didn't expect the women's team to be doing this sort of thing. Sure, it's not a disaster, but it is out of order for any modern national team representing Ireland on the National Stage to be chanting Up The 'Ra. It's a "Little Ireland" attitude, the sort of attitude that the women's team actually campaigned against when they protested the ridiculous conditions they had to perform under a few years ago.
On the other hand, it is kind of fun knowing that they have outraged the sort of people in Britain who regularly use the phrase "political correctness gone mad"
Assuming everyone's fit (I'm leaving out Jess Ziu as she'll do well to get over her ACL in time), I've eighteen on the plane to Aus/NZ leaving only five spots up for grabs:-
GKs: Brosnan, Moloney, Walsh;
DEFs: Finn, Fahey, Quinn, Caldwell, Campbell, O'Riordan;
MIDs: O'Gorman, Agg, O'Sullivan, McCabe, Littlejohn, Connolly;
ATTs: Payne, Barrett, Kiernan.
Lucy Quinn should go as well
Good to see from the Medialive TV ratings website today that the Scotland game averaged 340,000 viewers, and their audience measurements don't include under-15s, so the "true" figure will have been significantly higher.
A Tory MP has just mentioned the singing at PMQs...
In fairness, it was a pre-amble to a comment on the NI Protocol and highlighting the importance of peace etc. It wasn't just an isolated reference, there was some appropriate context to the comment though I don't think it's entirely fair how he presented it "ROI women's team caught singing pro-IRA chants" though it's quite a semantic argument.
Group stage draw tomorrow morning at 7:30, live on RTE2 and fifa.com
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/wnt-...world-cup-draw
New Zealand, South Korea, Ireland, and Zambia would be nice
US/England, Brazil/Netherlands, Ireland, and Group A winners(probably Portugal) would be a nightmare
Note - if we draw another European side, we can't face Portugal, no more than two European teams in one group.
Australia, Canada and Nigeria. Could have been worse, could have been better.
When the draw was being made, I wanted Group A - New Zealand and Norway - and to avoid Group E - USA and Netherlands - so when Costa Rica were drawn out for group B, I was disappointed, only for them to be moved to Group C so they can't be in the same group as Canada!
I'm happy enough with Group B. Australia were my second choice from Pot 1, Canada were the highest ranked side in Pot 2, and Nigeria were the highest ranked side in Pot 4.
It's quite even, and you can see each team taking points from each other.
Being labelled the group of death in Oz. It's a fair statement considering we beat Australia last year and Canada the Olympic champions beat Australia over here recently. We will get lots of publicity as Oz/ROI is the opening game which is exciting. Will certainly try and get to it.
Tough draw, but not impossible
It's a tough group, but not as bad as group E - the USA, Netherlands, and probably Portugal, or group D - England, China, and Denmark
Either of those could see a tournament favourite out after the group stages
Could have been easier, could have been harder. Best described as a tricky draw. As Tets said a draw that's quite even and will see teams taking points off each other.
Runners up in the group will likely play England who you'd except to top group D. Travel wise if we finish second we remain in Brisbane for the last 16 game, and travel back to Sydney if we top the group.
Talk about ridiculous planning.
Just as well flying thousands of miles isn't a contributing factor in this climate change thing no-one's talking about...
Schedule Confirmed
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2c8301...aland-2023.pdf
Date Opposition Location Local time Irish Time World Time Buddy Thursday, 20th July Australia Sydney 8pm 11am https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1...sln=20-21&hf=1 Wednesday, 26th July Canada Perth 8pm 1pm https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1...sln=20-21&hf=1 Monday, 31st July Nigeria Brisbane 8pm 11am https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1...sln=20-21&hf=1
Good to see we won't be needing to be up in the middle of the night anyway.
The opening game against Australia might be moved to the 83,500 capacity Accor Stadium: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...12-p5cc01.html
According to that article, the fifth highest attendance at a women's game ever is 80,203, which could be passed by the change in stadium.
Over 500,000 tickets have been sold for the women's World Cup, and that Ireland have sold the ninth most tickets for the tournament
https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/art...ld-cup-2023-tm
Probably would have sold much more if it weren't for the ridiculous allocation for the opening game.
When you consider how many Irish people living in Australia will have bought tickets also, we'll definitely be well supported at the tournament. Wouldn't have expected that many to travel over to it though, being honest.