That stand holds 3000. Where did you see that about the whole east stand
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That stand holds 3000. Where did you see that about the whole east stand
was told up in Oriel earlier, as designated "away" side we get East StandQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
We get 1 stand, you get 1 stand
Its a cup final, 50/50 split tickets is correct.
Fair enough, it should sell out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
East Stand is slightly smaller than the West Stand. 2750ish there, 3000 in West Stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I'd say the ea sports people and fai will be hoovering up a good few wesr stand tickets
Always get this wrong, is the East stand the main stand at the Maldron side or the other one?
Anyway absolutely no problems with the selection of the venue, last final between the two in 2014 was in oriel park, so this is fair enough.
Really looking forward to it, 3pm is a little earlier time, almost sure previous ones were at 5pm, maybe there is a clash with a big EPL match. Dundalk will easily sell out their allocation, so no reason it won't be a full house.
The east stand is the stand furthest away from the maldren.
It should be a fantastic day out full house and great atmosphere.
Not happy about Rovers being away from the East Stand but I suppose it'll ensure all our fans are on TV.
Was very few in it last few times we played there so understandableQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Ticketing seems very lopsided for this. Only 1000 tickets given to Dundalk, all sold and still plenty looking. Latest is there may be no more tickets coming
Doesn't seem right, didn't Rovers get more than that for the 2014 final?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
I recall we had to put up a temporary stand to ensure that they had 40% of the tickets. The split between the clubs was 40 - 40, with the FAI and sponsors getting the other 20%.
This is an FAI event, it's nothing to do with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
3,000 seats in the west stand.
Taking precedent from away matches, 55% go to the FAI suits and the "football family", 30% to fans, 15% to Abbey Travel (or whoever else takes their fancy, in this case).
That gives Dundalk 1,000 tickets for Dundalk fans. Seems about right.
If there are any scraps leftover (which there will be), you'll be allowed to have them.
I'll keep my nose out in future so!Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Also thanks for the offer of the scraps, much appreciated. I've no problem with Dundalk being allocated to the West stand and the suits /sponsor taking their cut. I don't think we'd sell out the whole East stand anyway as many won't travel to Tallaght when we're playing Rovers.
It doesn't explain why Rovers were given 2 sections of the West stand though. They are unlikely to sell their allocation meaning there'll be free seats that can't be sold to Dundalk fans even though the demand is there
The temp stand was paid for from the gate so both teams paid for it. Then the stewards (don't know if they were Dundalk or FAI) wouldn't let anybody sit in it so we were all cramped into the death trap away stand. Example #144334455 of the FAI heaping expenses on LOI teams just to make themselves feel big.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
How many tickets have Rovers sold for it?
Don't think the game will sell out. Most Rovers fans will just get walk up tickets on the day I'd say. I will be, anyway.
Dundalk are in form at the moment, and should be considered favourites in my book.
Rovers have won 6 in a row, but mostly against mickey mouse teams like Glenville, bluebell and cork.
That's the thing, the FAI have decided to seriously restrict the number of tickets Dundalk are getting, not sure how they came up with the 1000 figure being justified. Now we have a situation where Rovers are unlikely too sell their allocation but spare tickets cannot be given to Dundalk due to segregation.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
This will be our 3rd final in a row that the FAI have ballsed up the ticket allocation.
On the game, we should probably be favourites and are a better team on paper but we have failed to perform against Rovers on the last two occasions and in fairness to Bradley he has no issue getting his side pumped up for the big games
Is it a security issue, I wonder? A conscious decision by the FAI to restrict the number of "away" fans. It can't be a Rovers decision as this is an FAI event.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
It would be shame if the stadium was not full while Dundalk fans are being denied tickets.
Shamrock Rovers had won 7 in a row in all competitions scoring 15 goals and conceding only 4 in the process. This compares with Dundalk's 27 scored and 1 conceded in the same 7 match winning run
Rovers don't need tickets. Fans aren't as bothered as Dundalk about it. They'll walk up on the day.
It's a different story for Dundalk, they're mad up for it, it's their cup final.
Leave it out, Stephen.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Security is the only reason I can see. They want to keep all Dundalk fans in one half of the West stand and don't want them accessing the turnstiles at the stadium carpark to stop fans mixing but this will happen regardless so it's not a credible excuse IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I stand to be corrected but I believe Dundalk fans will be accessing the ground at the car park end. If this is correct then it would dispel security as a reason for the ticket allocation.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
I'd be surprised if they don't give Dundalk more allocation if they've already sold theirs, Dundalk will be using turnstiles at Square end, Most Rovers fans will just buy tickets on the day though so if Rovers only have say 2500 there will be a lot of empty seats which will be a shame for a cup final
pardon my ignorance but what has Abbey Travel got to do with being allocated tickets? you would imagine it would be EA Sports?
We'll be entering from the usual 'The Square' end turnstiles not the stadium carpark end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Nothing, I was being facetious, drawing comparison between the FAI's arrangements for Dundalk in this final and the FAI's contempt for fans generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
If that is the case, the cap on Dundalk fans sounds like an attempt to limit security and stewarding costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
That's not correct. I was at the other end of the ground for the 2014 final in oriel park, and plenty of rovers fans were in that temporary stand, majority refused to go to it though, preferring the usual away section, in some sort of bizarre protest about the cost of the installation of the stand. It was a ridiculous sight, maybe 150 rovers fans in the temp stand and hundreds crammed in the usual away end. Rovers also got 1/3 of the main stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
That would be silly. No justification for the FAI restricting tickets to either set of fans. If that continues to be the case, I'd say Dundalk fans could still walk up and buy tickets. Can't imagine the two stands will be blocked off if Rovers fans are in both.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I was told I couldn't go into it and so were a lot of people. And there was no drink taken on my part. There were a few people in it and more seemed to get in towards the end of the first half, but plenty of us were told we had to stay in the old stand. I know we did get a chunk of the main stand - it didn't seem like 1/3 but I couldn't really tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Yeah the whole thing was bizzare for that 2014 final in terms of the split. I moved into the main stand for the second half and Rovers def had 1/3 sectioned off, it was towards the away end side. Whatever the reasons, it was ridiculous to see only 150 or so away fans in the newly erected temp stand. That was mid Sept, and if memory serves me right it was taken down and then re-installed 6 weeks later for the final league game of the season v Cork.
Dundalk got an additional allocation of tickets but these have now been sold to people on the waiting list.
There are a lot of fans on the waiting list who have missed out.
I understand that the total allocation to Dundalk was 1,500.
I'm not exactly sure what the problem is here. Any Dundalk fans without tickets can just go down and buy them on the day. Your fan base isn't that big that 3/4000 of youse are going to be left roaming around the wilds of tallaght ticketless. The stewards will put all the away fans together, and we'll all just enjoy a Rovers victory, inshallah.
The issue is we could easily have sold near 3000 ticketsQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
If 1800 is what you consider near 3000 I'd agree with you,,,, ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Nah seriously though, as has been said already, there'll be no issue getting a ticket on the gate, I was on the away turnstiles when we played Drogheda in the final a few years ago and we were given bundles of tickets that were unsold to sell on the gate, I'd estimate we were given 300 - 450 at the time, I understand you have a bigger support, but yiz'll be grand
I'd be pretty confident that any fan travelling down for the game will not be turned away. Still expect a crowd of around 4.5 -5k tops though, cant see it selling out.
You can always do that the Koln fans did tonight and come down in Rovers jerseys :)
It might be the case that people can pay on the day but really its just a tad FAI to make a game ticket only, allocate tickets, segregate fans and then allow tickets be bought at a turnstile (i suppose that technically counts as 'ticket only'), have have mingle if tickets are on sale from the ticket booths and have fans buy a ticket for anywhere in the ground and just get shoved in with the respective groups no matter what block or stand is on the ticket.
So while one section might be rammed there will be empty seats in another which looks shíte on TV never mind the the issues with people crammed in to an area; Not just the whole safety thing but the inevitable standing on seats and them being broken, and the way ranks can be closed if some halfwit does something and stewards and gardai have no hope of singling out someone if necessary, and the furore that certain newpapers will make about any negative incidents that they can batter LoI with. If the FAI didnt bother their collective asses at all organising a final it would work out better and make a whole lot more sense.
Wasnt the 2014 final where you spent the day in The Emerald Bar Charlie and when an unfortunate incident happened on the way to Oriel with family of a deceased lady from the area. There is no doubt that a lot or Rovers fans believed that SRFC paid for the temporary stand themselves and there were murmurs of a boycott of using the stand hence. It was also suggested that it was to be a family friendly area.
How could you have tolerated The Emerald CD, the smell alone (on top of a bunch of beered up football fans)...you had to have been on the beers as ye claimed to have liked the spot at the time - impossible if sober!!??!
I was in the Emerald that day when, presumably, I was one of the people Dundalk fans swore smashed the place up! I'm not ruling out the possibility some people boycotted the new stand but certainly didn't hear anything about it, nor seemingly did the many people who tried to get access to it. I will, of course, bow to the superior knowledge of Dundalk fans on what Rovers fans think in the event of any disagreement.
Now, I wouldn't dare comment on the "inevitable" Dundalk fans standing on seats as I seem to remember your lot having problems with that before :)