1211 Harps v Dundalk
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1211 Harps v Dundalk
1,211 in Finn Park is very disappointing again. Also expected a lot more up from Dundalk. Barely 100-120 there.
Basically how we feel when Harps visit OP.
2nd home match now your disappointed with the away support(v Sligo also) Maybe your setting your expectations too high?
I wasn't at the match but hear we had 170 there.
Anyway,falling home numbers for yee(as you mentioned) more of a worry.
To be fair that's a more than decent turn out. Avg of 6k over the last 2 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Great crowd to see! Such a contrast to last year, decent crowd travelled down from Cobh too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
reckon 100 people in Ferrycarrig Park. away support of 11 supporters. least said the better.
When you're sitting near the bottom of the table anything over 1000 is a bonus imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Yeah 1172 was quoted by the club. Not sure where 891 came from. Possibly season tickets not included.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
I thought 1200 odd was poor for us but then you see the team sitting 3rd with massive investment with less than 500 at it and that would make you worry .........
1200 is not bad for Finn Harps at the minute, good point by dong. I was up there at our match last May, maybe 200 Dundalk at it and loads stayed over too, great nigh actually, maybe if it wasn't week before Easter it would have suited more to travel last night.
That's just a desperate crowd by Bray. 3rd position too, think their highest ever finish was 4th.
Another big crowd at the RSC.. wasn't expecting so many, nor was I expecting so many Cobh fans, they certainly played their part in what was a very good Cobh performance.
Maybe setting expectations a bit too high alright, but I don't think Ollie Horgan helps in his assessment of matches. There's little in the way of positivity comes out in his interviews and it clearly rubs off on the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Actually informed as well that the 1,211 figure was just paying customers on the night and doesn't include season ticket holders of which there's around 250.
Don't think there was 170 there at all, certainly could have been a few more in the gate if it weren't for a group of lads arrested and causing sh!te on the streets! But on your point of Harps fans in Oriel Park, we're not going for a third title in a row.
Falling crowds is definitely a worry too, but we know that Finn Park is a problem in terms of attracting fans, and this week has been full of chat of away tickets for the Derry game next week which are limited at 200.
It's unfortunate that we just won't capitalise on Harps potential whatsoever until we get into the new stadium.
For Dundalk fans it would be a 4th title in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Is the norm at Finn Park to exclude season ticket holders from the official attendances?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Yeah, this season has just been a count of the ticket stubs collected at the gates as far as I'm aware.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
1,586 in The Showgrounds
It sounds to me that you are just making things up as you go alongQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
The FAI require season tickets attendees to be included in the official returns to them - it would hardly make any sense for Harps to change this season from including them to excluding them
This was taken from a Waterford FC facebook fan page.
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Combined attendance of 4,649 at the three home games so far. That's 206 more than the total for the whole of last season (4443). Eleven more home league games to come! Is there a club anywhere else in the world that's had a 400% increase in attendances this season?
The figure called out over the tannoy isn't necessarily the figure given to the FAI including season tickets though is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Why does it bother you so much? Have you little else to worry about?
I only go on the information given to me, what sense would it be for me to be making things up? I'm not sure what I'd be gaining from that.
I really couldn't care less what the numbers were.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
But your child-like posts do irritate: talking up home attendees, playing down visitor numbers, exaggerating the pre-match trouble and arrests, and trying to invent some controversy around the second goal.
A bit more honesty and less of the "I only post up what I'm told" bull
As always take the attendances thread with a massive pinch of salt, they are 90% of the time absolute ******.
Some clubs will overexaggerate, some clubs under report. All have their different reasons.
Theres really no incentive to be accurate with your crowd figures.
And even in cases where crowds are fairly accurate it tells you only slightly more than nothing about the clubs in question.
For years at least a third of harps crowds was made up of feral children. When Limerick were in hogan park you couldnt walk across the estate without a lad offering you two Limerick tickets (it was a rough estate) Shelbournes crowds have been a figment of someones imagination for years. And so on....
Well sorry, but I didn't talk up home attendees. In fact, I did the opposite. I was disappointed by the home crowd, like I have been most weeks so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Being disappointed by the league champions taking in less fans than were expected to arrive is hardly child-like in pointing out either?
I didn't exaggerate any pre-match trouble. I witnessed it, as did a lot of other people on both the main street and later on Navenny street. At what point do you have to 'exaggerate' to before you get a little bit p!ssed off seeing a young lad with blood streaming down his face, broken glass on the main street, and a couple of lads arrested for clearly trying to get a rise out of anyone who would take them on? If you'd also cared to notice, I never called them Dundalk fans. I iterated right from the start that it was clear they were only there for that reason and not to support Dundalk FC.
I didn't invent any controversy around any goal either. I said there were suggestions of offside, no less from the man who took the photo. I said straight out I'd wait to see the video footage.
You asked me a question, I answered it, and then got accused of making things up as I went along, followed by talking about child-like posts irritating you? If you don't like them, don't reply and don't ask questions and you may stop being irritated so much.
Time to revive Section O so..Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Defunct. It's the "Jolly boys" now!Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
will never happen in my lifetime. The life has being sucked out of it. the lads that were the spirit of it all will not come back at all now and I myself will not associate with the rest of them that stand there so doing my own thing from now on and move elsewhere. Great memories but all good things come to an end. I was a founding member and not many of my age go to matches regularly any more so I dont have anything in common over there any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
212 at Wexford v Longford.
Lol goway outa thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ForzaForth
Last weeks figures: (Sent off for official figures from clubs but don't hold much hope of getting them)
Cork v Derry - 5,275
Sligo Rovers v Bohs - 1,586
St Pat's v Limerick - No official figure, Extratime given 1,300 estimate.
Finn Harps v Dundalk - 1,211
Drogheda v Shamrock Rovers - No official figures, Extratime 1,100 estimate.
Bray v Galway - 477
Waterford v Cobh - 1,675
Cabinteely v Shels - 502
Wexford v Longford - 212
UCD v Athlone - 150
Week 7:
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,853 (1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 720 (957; 769; 718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,452 (2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,516 (1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 968 (583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,431 (2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,445 (1,169; 1,290; 975 FD)
Harps - 1,457 (1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD; 480 FD)
Limerick - 2,072 (1,131 FD; 1,206; 757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Pat's - 1,479 (1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 3,507 (2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,550 (1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 269 (156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 472 (352; 610)
Cobh - 351 (403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Longford - 347 (488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315; 230; 260)
Shels - 555 (554; 596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 248 (297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 1,546 (314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 259 (585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,062 (1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 482 (476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,464 (1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 13,488
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 94,837 (292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 13,482 (52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 108,319 (345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
1119 official figure for Galway v Pats tonight.
1,932 announced at the RSC.
2641 at Rovers v Sligo
1,574 sell-out at Maginn Park.
Bohs v cork - 2,214
3031 @ OP tonight to witness the debacle!
Looked like a great crowd in Dalyer tonight. I don't know the stadium especially well, only been there 6 or 8 times. Jodi looked 80-90% full. No idea what the City crowd was but it looked decent (from within it so very hard to tell)
Waterford getting bigger crowds than europe chasers Bray :think:
Huge congestion outside the Jodi last night, so a lot of the crowd came through the players gate uncounted. Bigger crowd than the last game v Pats 2;200 in the Jodii 400 in the shed..Good atmosphere.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
210 counted at UCD last night by a fan there.
1,500 and odd at limerick v drogheda not bad considering its a bank holiday weekend and munster were playing aswell