Wood be a good move especially if they get promotion. Even 2nd tier in Germany is better than SPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
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Wood be a good move especially if they get promotion. Even 2nd tier in Germany is better than SPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
Sorry for typo. I obviously meant ‘would’Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
It wouldn't, and no it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
St Pauli are fourth in the 2nd Bundesliga at the moment - https://www.bundesliga.com/de/2bundesliga/tabelle
A point behind Darmstad in third, with five games to go. Whoever finishes third goes into a play off with the third-last team in the Bundesliga, currently VFB Stuttgart
Thought they had played in the Bundesliga recently, but it was actually 2010-11 season!
And before that was 2001-02. Would be foolish to go there if he wants to break into the senior squad next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
You think SPL is better than the 2 Bundesliga?Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Take out Celtic and Rangers - and you don't play against them most weeks - and the SPL is a weak enough league. I'd be happy if Ronan got a move to Germany - just so long as he didn't then vanish like Jamie McGrath has done in the English third tier.
Edit - in fact, we had a look at this analysis before in the context of LoI v League 1, but it has a comparison across various European leagues and it has the 2. Bundesliga 12th and the SPL 25th of the leagues sampled. It uses European results to make comparisons across leagues, and then obviously domestic results after that.
And some further evidence for the Bundesliga 2 being generally a higher standard than SPL (minus Old Firm)
https://www.dw.com/en/why-bundesliga...gue/a-58318380
The German second tier is streets ahead of most of the SPL.
Realistically a move from the SPL to Bundesliga 2 is a sideways move. No player of serious quality would make that move, and it betrays a lack of ambition, or a lack of ability. I hope it works out for Ronan but if this goes ahead I won’t be very impressed.
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Originally Posted by irishfan86
I think he could play at a higher level and no doubt he aspires to. The article talked about his ambition to get into the Wolves team. But we have players in the Championship and League 1 playing for us. We’re getting g excited because some of our League 1 players might get promoted. St Pauli getting into the Bundesliga 1 is a better promotion than MK Dons or Rotherham making it into the Championship.
bundes 2 is miles better overall than spl. take out your 8 drubbings v celtic/rangers and the league is pretty poor.
I'd agree with that. Our best midfield player is playing for Anderlecht and that's fine. We need players playing and developing at whatever level they can do that at.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
It would and it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Wow. I know football is all about opinions, but the suggestion that moving from St. Mirren to a well-supported 2. Bundesliga/Bundesliga club like St. Pauli would be at best a 'sideways move' is, by any conceivable metric, just objectively wrong.
I'm astounded that anyone could possibly think otherwise.
19/20 season saw St Mirren with 5.5k average attendance. St Pauli had 22k.
The Daily Record are stating Pauli getting promoted would mean he has a good chance of going there. If Hearts get into Europe then they have a chance of signing him too. I think I'd prefer Pauli in all outcomes here.
According to the Mail's Mike Keegan, "Huddersfield, Cardiff and Coventry have joined Aberdeen and Hibs in the chase for Wolves’ midfielder Connor Ronan".
A decent Championship side would surely be preferable. He's turning 25 in March and his last SPL loan move didn't exactly grease the wheels on his career and international prospects significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demesne Lad
Cardiff would be a decent move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Hodge gets a game tonight in what looks like a very strong Wolves side.
Did ok, not ready for regular premier league starts IMO. My preference is for a loan move ideally continental in Jan for guarantee 90 minute senior games, not bit part
Some more good news on the Irish player front --> https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023...wolves-chance/
How's he going to get a chance if he's not even making the bench in cup games. Seems a bit disingenuous
The quotes in the article you posted suggest to me that he has a lot to do to impress Lopetegui… iirc he said something along the lines of “to see if he is good enough to stay/be here”…vs… a “he’s impressing in training and he will get his chance if he keeps it up” type quote. Either way, I wasn’t too optimistic after reading the article.
I mean the articles just above there stu : P
And yes he's then followed up with "He's going to have his chance. We have a lot of matches and I am sure he's going to have minutes."
If not now, then when? He had class,he coulda been a contender
I know, I was on a roll though and didn’t want to read it again. I’d meant to post something yesterday when you posted it.
For what it’s worth, I’d love to see him move away permanently, Championship level, to a Norwich or something.
Don't think he'd get his game for Norwich to be honest. Sheffield Wednesday have been linked as well as a few of the mid rank Scottish teams.
I think Championship should really be his next step and the right level for him at this stage. Norwich perhaps ambitious but I more meant that type of team/club that celebrates a technically strong playmaker.
I hope not, outside of Robbie I cant see at US based player playing much international football for us
He just wont get picked. he is a young guy stay in Europe man
Is he good enough for senior international football? He's 25 in March - all he has shown to date is that he is a competent player for St Mirren.
he'd be mad to turn down MLS.
I don't know if I'm honest
But his position is somewhere we are in need of. Jamie McGrath was st mirran and he has imo being great for us. I would really hope he gets a championship move or the Netherlands or Belgium perhaps
theres no excuse these days for management to not keep up on games. mls is widely televised and all highlights will be on instat/wyscout etc which FAI have access to. personally doubt the lad will ever be a international level player but look kenny seems to think jamie mcgrath is so anything is possible!
Depends on the money I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Wait! Ronan is a superior player to Hodge isn't he? Why is he being sold to the MLS and Hodge is getting game time with Wolves?
Hodge's potential is far higher than Ronan's. Ronan is one of those technically neat players that supporters love but managers don't trust at a high level. He does some lovely things, scores the occasional absolute belter but then goes missing in games as well. There isn't much of a defensive side to his game there that I can see and that will usually put coaches off. A bit like Jack Byrne I suppose. These players that don't develop the out of possession side of their game rarely make it at the top level.
They play completely different roles! They're in different competition for spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
But who should receive a call up to our squad? The utterances from Kenny in October are looking even more ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu