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You've got a point, fair enough, but do you really think Delaney is advocating sectarianism/intimidation or lauding militant republicanism by singing a rebel ballad in the pub of a leafy Dublin suburb? I think he's just trying to be "one of the lads", and not doing a very good job of that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
Something for after the RTÉ gig is up, without doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I imagine his interest in/ knowledge of McDonnell's career is roughly the same of the England fans at Celtic Park the other day, ie fcuk all. But he's not a dumb teenager, so aye to the latter at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
What has suburban leafiness got to do with it. Are you an Irishtown estate agent?
Given what he'd probably been indulging in, we should be grateful for small mercies...
Come on GR, you know it paints a more harmless picture. If he had been singing in a run down alleyway in an unnamed part of town, broken glass on the ground, graffiti on the walls and a flagon of Linden Village in his hand, he'd clearly be a more hardcore sympathiser. The logic is flawed, however, as this time of year leaves are fairly scarce. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
To clarify this, I'm not taking potshots at anyone in particular. The discusson on Joe McDonnell as sung by Delaney is fine, if you want to debate The Sash VS The Fields (or whatever tune) please move it to the current affairs forumQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Yeah, but we can't all go on there...
Plus at least one person is exaggerating a good bit in this thread for 'effect'.
Haha, I mean it was bluster. Dublin 4 isn't the hardest of militant republican heartlands now. If he'd been stirring up emotions in the Felons in west Belfast, the context would be very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
The area around Aviva stadium is usually referred to euphemistically as "leafy suburbs" by various broadsheets. Knowing Danny, it was probably tongue in cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
PM sentQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Replied...
Meanwhile, back in the surreal world...
http://www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/27-...rism-sinn-fein
I've been looking through a few John Delaney (drunk) videos on YouTube. Many of them are comical (strictly in a "laughing at" rather than a "laughing with" sense), but I still think this is my favourite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ_pMX_MvGM
I'll just pluck this comment out of the pack there and post it here:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
You have to guess who... :pQuote:
I think the Freestaters are over-reacting a little. Is singing a Daniel O'Donnell cover really that bad?
Don't encourage him...
Plus there's more than a whiff of hypocrisy about the whole thing.
I dont mind admitting i sent her a few tweets, not anything nasty, but from her page its obvious John the Baptist uses it as a defacto twitter account for himself, since he has no account or fbook page, and with the constant barrage in the Indo I think its fair game tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
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The wolves gather around the victim. Will it escape?
Because this is Ireland. Duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat
The victim? That buffalo has a considerable amount of power. What was he doing anyway to get himself into such a precarious situation? Advertising himself to the pack in broad daylight on a snowy white plain? You'd have to think of him as rather foolish. He'd have been better searching for a drink in a more secluded spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Probably. He'll live on another few years yet.Quote:
Will it escape?
Nasty or not, are you proud of that? Whatever about Delaney, the woman has done nothing wrong yet she's being judged as culpable as her partner for what's gone on over the last few weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Have a look down through the list of messages she's received over the last few days here: https://twitter.com/search?q=to%3AEmmaKEnglish
Again, this woman has done nothing wrong, and certainly nothing that deserves some of those comments
Well, just tweets are fine. She's on Twitter, after all, and is, like St. John, more than happy to publicise herself and their relationship (in spite of her talk of it being a private thing). In fact, I see she's been really promoting his case since: https://twitter.com/EmmakEnglishQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Abuse is a different matter entirely though.
I understand those who posted the abuse on YBIG were also banned by a moderator immediately.
irrelevant posts on nationalist and loyalist songs moved to the current affairs forum here - http://foot.ie/threads/196215-Debate...yalist-anthems
Continue the debate there if you want
This is the third time I've posted this in the last few hours - discussion on Delaney singing Joe McDonnell, and its repercussions, in this thread is fine. Debate on the genre of nationalist and loyalist songs is not
I won't make a fourth warning.
Nothing abusive, but if the head of football in the country hides away from any serious debate with fans of the game then so be it. Even series journalists find it hard to nail him down these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Cant on the one hand court the media etc and on the other cry when it comes back and bites you on the ass. The faux outrage is nauseating. I thought he was a die hard republican
What's the point messaging his girlfriend though?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
He uses that accountQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Ah would you go away? It's clearly her and he just likes talking about him. Delaney couldn't operate a bloody calculator let alone a twitter account.
We're going to need to know what you said Benno :)
I can see one of a personal nature (not abusive but mildly intrusive with a hint of boorish humour possibly) and another (for the attention of Delaney, most likely) featuring a photo of a few fans holding up a "DELANEY OUT" banner, but I can't see much else in terms of tweets relating to Delaney or from Ireland fans, and nothing explicitly abusive. Am I blind?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
If the profile was being used as a mouthpiece for the promotion of Delaney and his professional business, or possibly by Delaney himself, then it's only inevitable it would draw attention and possible reaction from disgruntled Ireland fans. I can't confirm whether or not it has been used in such a way as I've not been following, or whether the tweets to the profile, if there were others, were warranted or unprovoked, although bennocelt seems to suggest the profile has been used in such a way. Can you point out the tweets you think were published by Delaney or what makes you think he uses it, bennocelt? She does seem to be involving herself in the public debate now, mind.
Nevertheless, anything abusive, directed at her private life or of a personally-demeaning nature is most certainly out of order.
I second that. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
She needs a thicker skin imho.
Who do you chaps think will win Cowboys Eagles today? I should be plenty liquored up for that one.
Well, she was referred to in pretty nasty terms on YBIG. You can't condone that or try to blame her "lack of thick skin" for any insult taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
At the same time though, I don't think the abuse was deserving of the exposure Delaney wanted to give it. It wasn't newsworthy. It was a few now-banned idiots posting cretinous stuff under the protection of their pseudonyms. The material was promptly deleted, a charitable donation was offered by YBIG in apology and nobody in the outside world would have known about it at all had Delaney not brought up the matter - an irrelevancy - on the radio with Pat Kenny.
The Eagles. Cowboys have been brittle when in the limelight this year.
My thoughts were published. But the President then issued another statement last night of course rendering my thoughts "old hat"-ish. Needless to say I have to write up the latest.
http://www.krank.ie/category/opinion...cdonnell-saga/
Ha ha now nowQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Nothing personal, I'm not that stupid. As Danny has showed, just re-tweeting photos and stuff like that.
I havent a clue what she normally gets upto on her feed, but type in JD on a quiet day and you can see a lot of gruff from her feed. There was even a tweet highlighting all the good work JD does with a few photos of him down in Mayo with the Mayo League for example. I mean thats not the kind of rubbish an Indo socialite tweets about, or am I wrong!
I dont know who the CEO of the Gaa or Rubgy is these days, never mind who they are going out with! Which says a lot IMHO
The best thing for her do is to quit Twitter until this thing blows over. She's tweeting stuff about the whole thing and making it worse!Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
That GeorgeBestLookalike is one of the many reason to avoid Twitter. #TeamDelaney.:eek:
Good summation. I still can't get over the gall of him throwing false legal threats at the Guardian and the Telegraph. What was he thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Cheers. I am currently writing up a new follow up and whilst looking for the statemet I found the new Fan Direct scheme. Even that seems ham-fisted as a solution. http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fans-...lications-open
I couldn't be arsed looking back over this thread and deciphering <MOD EDIT>content deleted. Educate yourself about the debate before you join it</MOD EDIT>
I heard the faithful on YBIG have been putting their feet in it again. Then again..... we are talking about the same standard of people that created and commented in a "Is Stephen Kelly black or white?" thread.
Apologies, I didn't see them, I was going on newspaper reports, some of the language there is pretty abusive and totally undeserved. I didn't see the posts on YBIG either.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I'd still be curious to see what was "retweeted and stuff like that". You really should stand beside what you post onlineQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Probably not, but it's the sort of thing a girlfriend would post about her partner fairly regularly. I had a look through her page, and I didn't see any evidence that Delaney does use it as his own accountQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I know the cliffnotes version of it. I know that someone who is supposed to represent us, and routinely makes a fool of himself, on foreign trips was caught red handed singing sectarian songs.
The Irish national team has Protestant fans too. It is embarrassing that a man of his stature is marginalising them like this.
His girlfriend/wife deserves better than the vitriol she is getting on that site but it is par for the course there, unfortunately.