Surely if it was to be in Oriel the away fans would have to be put somewhere other than the actual away end.
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Surely if it was to be in Oriel the away fans would have to be put somewhere other than the actual away end.
4500 with around 3000 seatsQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
That is from Wikipedia ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by colonelwest
Our chairman has stated before the Europa game that there are 3200 seats, so No way is the capacity only 4500
Well considering who it is maybe put them in a cage behind the goals?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Yes, 3200 seated.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
The standing capacity is hard to estimate. The Carrick Road end is big but not terraced. It would be difficult to put people there as the view would be very restricted.
Would it be economic to hire temporary seating? That could accommodate up to 2,000 but would be pricey.
The second leg of the 1998/99 League Cup Final was also at the Cross, was also against Shamrock Rovers, and was also 1-0. Noel Hartigans finest moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Donie Forde
Wikipedia also tells me that Shamrock Rovers were defeated by Athlone in 81/82 and Dundalk in 86/87 though it neglects to give Venues for either game.
They have lost 6 LC finals! Dundalk are second both in terms of Wins and Losses with 4 a piece.
82 was in Tolka and 87 in Dalymount, the same venue as that year's cup final between the two teams.
81/82 Final was neutral venue at Tolka Park.
So the final has been confirmed for Oriel then. I'm surprised but delighted.
Times they are a changing - kudos to the FAI, who seem to have belatedly got a grasp on sporting fairness in opting for a coin toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Unless they misplaced their one sided coin!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Aye, that's what wiki has but there hasn't been a confirmed definitive figure seating wise since the ground got upgraded for the EL under Foster (bar what Skinny comes out with and I'd take that with a pinch of salt tbf). Before this years EL wear and tear/ replacements over the last few years etc hadn't been factored in, hence me saying around 3k seating & not a specific figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
The ground capacity total is what I was given last year from the club as I do some of the LOI research for Football Manager & ourselves in particular & it was the same as the post EL Foster era ground upgrades with the old seats from Croker that got put in. The total is the registered figure with UEFA/ the FAI/ Health & Safety etc for a safe maximum capacity. Not a chance seating/ standing totals 6k since the seats were put in the Shed, away and home end terraces.
Someone in the FAI messed up the coin toss. There will be hell to pay.
Wil Fenlon allow players to deicde whether they fancy playing on Dundalk's 3G pitch?
They used the same one sided coin as always. Shams just called wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Looking forward to a cup final in a venue where away fans can't see half the pitch and the top notch facilities.
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Im sure the gents were quite ok after the steward booted the door open!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailor
Somebody lock the door when they were shooting up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailor
Great craic coming out of Louth this afternoon. Dundalk have proposed building a temporary uncovered stand for the Rovers fans to sit in at Oriel. In exchange for this most generous bounty, Rovers will pay 1/3 of the cost of the temporary stand (which Dundalk will be free to use for their remaining home games) and get a whopping 1/4 of the ticket allocation. They apparently have the FAI backing them in this ludicrous suggestion.
And people wonder why finals should always be played in Tallaght..
Whats the problem? Sounds perfectly fair to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The only place I have seen this is on various forums all from Rovers fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Its complete bull**** but il let ya continue on thinking that!
As for the ticket allocation, its 40% not 20% you will be getting.
What I heard was that Rovers would get 40% of the tickets and the cost of installing temporary seating would come out of the match day revenue.
Whether it's 25% or 40% being offered, it should be 50%, and anything Rovers can't sell should be offered to Dundalk. It's supposed to be a neutral venue. If the cost of the stand comes from matchday income, then Rovers are paying for half of a stand that Dundalk will be able to make money from for the rest of the season. It should be quite simple: if Dundalk want a temporary stand, they can pay for it. Otherwise, Rovers should be given the same allocation any other side would get at a neutral venue.
20% going to sponsors, FAI, etc. The temporary stand will facilitate more fans from both clubs being able to attend the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Where did you hear this bull**** mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
So you want 50% tickets, FAI/Sponsors 20% leaving us with 30%. Is that to balance up that you have to play a final away from Tallaght?
20% to sponsors? Haha. What I want is Rovers to get the same as Dundalk and not have to pay for Oriel Park to be done up.
So, if the game was in Tallaght, the rent paid to the council would be paid by Rovers directly and not taken from the match day revenue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
No. There's a big difference between renting a stadium for an evening and paying for a new stand. If a temporary stand was put up in Tallaght for a game between Rovers and Dundalk, nobody would expect Dundalk to pay. It's not a necessary match expense. You can play the game without it. If Dundalk want more fans there they can pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Rent of a pitch vs rent of a stand? Not that much a difference to be honest,Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Except you can't play a game without a pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Careful now or expect comments on Rovers payment for doing up of Tallaght.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Thats what you will get. 20% FAI/Sponsors (yes thats whats happening with any untaken tickets going back to both teams allocation)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
40% for Rovers
40% for Dundalk
Now Oriel will prob hold 6000 ish more so unless you are bringing more than 2500 Will be no issue over tickets to Rovers fans.
Id also put my house on no temp stand going in the carrick Road end because
A. its not needed!
B. That is a right of way to the Oriel Active building which means it cant have a stand there!
If you wanna build one the other end for us (with all your Europa league money) Feel Free
Well I think the whole point is we don't want to pay for your stand. If it's not necessary and not going to happen then there's no issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
But you are the one who brought up this ridiculous rumour and tro be honest anyone with a bit of sense would know Dundalk wouldnt ask Rovers to pay for a stand in OrielQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It's really not that unbelievable. The club have never seen fit to put any money into upgrading the stands before so it's hardly surprising they'd try to piggy-back it on this.
The club do their best in upgrading the ground. Havnt the money to do it all up so naturally the home end will be looked after first (Eg We had no Shed for a few years) now basically the whole side is covered. Disabled facilites upgraded but hey Il let you think what you want!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Imagine if the Dundalk Council would just do it all for us while we pay them a few €'s rent every Week
'twas inevitable Charlie but you made it easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
From watching the 2 Rovers play at HT during over game in the bars, Dundalk officials have confirmed we will not need any new stand. They will all fit in the usual end
I know I shouldn't get drawn in on this but Rovers have put far more money into Tallaght than Dundalk have in their stadium over the past decade. It's funny the stick we get from clubs who've run down their own stadiums for no other reason than we don't own a ****hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
About 1.3million has been spent on Oriel over the last decade! For which a period of that was in the 1st division and on the brink of going out of business. With a new ground to walk in to and to maintain has hardly cost anywhere near €1mil to Rovers?
Sligo have certainly set the example of how to improve their ground without it being built by their council and keeping a team competative, something to which we aspire to.