Jack Byrne (M Shamrock Rovers b.1996)

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

My thinking is a move to Ajax (or the like) might not be in his interests. His time at Cambuur has been a success because he has played, and has been a senior player in the team. That has allowed him to find his feet over time and aided his development. If he went to a team where he was being asked to adjust his game to accommodate more experienced players, or even worse, was coming off the bench, it wouldn't do as much for his development.

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Agreed entirely. It might seem a long stretch, but what if Guardiola sees him in pre-season and thinks he can fit him in his plans? If this were to occur then he'd want to give fairly strong assurances to Byrne or else it would be a season down the drain but getting gametime and the tutelage of Guardiola would surely be huge in his development. It might be a season too soon for this to occur so, yeah, a move to a good European side might be his best bet.

It's going to be one interesting summer for this lad between a potential bolt towards the Euros and an intriguing next club step to take.

Maybe a move to a slightly stronger league for a year but to a blub where he would once again be very important to the team. Montpellier/Bologna/FC Koln or the likes

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

My thinking is a move to Ajax (or the like) might not be in his interests. His time at Cambuur has been a success because he has played, and has been a senior player in the team. That has allowed him to find his feet over time and aided his development. If he went to a team where he was being asked to adjust his game to accommodate more experienced players, or even worse, was coming off the bench, it wouldn't do as much for his development.

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Ajax are looking to sign Marcel Keizer (his manager at Cambuur) at Ajax, as replacement for Jaap Stam. He might be able to put in a good word for Jack at Ajax ;-)

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/vo.../227/fixtures/

Looks like a move to Blackburn is next.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....byrne-11514549

Stokes, Duffy, Lenihan, O'Sullivan is back from his latest loan and now possibly Byrne at the same club next season

confirmed, season long loan at Blackburn: http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article...y-3160876.aspx

I don't know why but I feel slightly disappointed with this move. Another season at a European club might have done him better, or even a pre-season under Pep. Still, only 20, finger's crossed he get's plenty of game time. Regular games in the championship should lead to a regular spot in the international squads. Big hopes for the lad.

So its Stokes, Duffy, Lenihan O'Sullivan & now Byrne at Blackburn, not since the days of Duff coming through will there have been so many Irish eyes trained upon Ewood Park

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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

So its Stokes, Duffy, Lenihan O'Sullivan & now Byrne at Blackburn, not since the days of Duff coming through will there have been so many Irish eyes trained upon Ewood Park

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Speculation that Chris McCann might also link up again with Owen Coyle as he's out of contract at Wigan.

I hope Byrne is a good as he has suggested so far but I could see the following scenario very easily...

Manager thinks he is too small for the Championship to play center midfield so he gets shoved out to the wing where he is in and out of the team all season. Man City then decide hes not good enough so he ends up in Aberdeen next season where he farts around the SPL for a few years. If hes lucky after that he might find a manager who will take a chance on him and everyone suddenly realizes by the time hes 29 that hes actually a brilliant player and he then becomes a luxury player that the manager uses at home but not away from home.

Basically he could be the new Wes .... this season will tell a lot!

That'sounds a possibility but we can short circuit it by picking him in central midfield and showing faith in him

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

That'sounds a possibility but we can short circuit it by picking him in central midfield and showing faith in him

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Fair Point, hopefully

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I hope Byrne is a good as he has suggested so far but I could see the following scenario very easily...

Manager thinks he is too small for the Championship to play center midfield so he gets shoved out to the wing where he is in and out of the team all season. Man City then decide hes not good enough so he ends up in Aberdeen next season where he farts around the SPL for a few years. If hes lucky after that he might find a manager who will take a chance on him and everyone suddenly realizes by the time hes 29 that hes actually a brilliant player and he then becomes a luxury player that the manager uses at home but not away from home.

Basically he could be the new Wes .... this season will tell a lot!

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http://www.balls.ie/football/a-huge-...to-come/338492

Hopefully this settles your pessimism for a while anyway!

quotes taken from an interview with Coyle here: http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...ng_Jack_Byrne/

interview with BBC Lancashire: https://audioboom.com/boos/4770779-m...move-from-mcfc

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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

So its Stokes, Duffy, Lenihan O'Sullivan & now Byrne at Blackburn, not since the days of Duff coming through will there have been so many Irish eyes trained upon Ewood Park

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Could this actually be a problem? With O'Sullivan returning from his highest-level loan spell and Lenihan just after establishing himself in the Rovers' team, is there a danger that Byrne's arrival could lead to a setback for one of them? Or on the positive side, could we see a future Irish midfield partnership arise? I guess, as always, only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by samhaydenjr

Could this actually be a problem? With O'Sullivan returning from his highest-level loan spell and Lenihan just after establishing himself in the Rovers' team, is there a danger that Byrne's arrival could lead to a setback for one of them? Or on the positive side, could we see a future Irish midfield partnership arise? I guess, as always, only time will tell.

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After his loans at Rochdale and Bury, O'Sullivan will have to work very hard to get a look-in at Blackburn. He's gone backwards in the last 12 months.

Turned down offers from French and Israeli clubs.

Wonder who the French club was.

Who did?

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Who did?

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Byrner.

Those are the countries he referred to anyways when he was talking about offers.

City had players on loan at Bastia and Lille last season. Could be either of those. Or any of the other teams in Ligue 1

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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Byrner.

Those are the countries he referred to anyways when he was talking about offers.

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Ah right. I was reading like you were on about O'Sullivan.

Seems to believe he is more likely to win an Ireland call-up by playing in England.

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3912/...ter-city-first

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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Seems to believe he is more likely to win an Ireland call-up by playing in England.

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3912/...ter-city-first

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Nowhere in that article does he say that, an the quotes are all taken from the BBC interview I linked earlier

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

City had players on loan at Bastia and Lille last season. Could be either of those. Or any of the other teams in Ligue 1

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Wow, tets, you really know how to narrow a field.

Sooner or later, someone's going to twist those words into "why is he happy to be at Blackburn when he have been playing Champions League with PSG?"

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"My bread and butter is Blackburn, so hopefully if I'm playing and playing well, I'll be in (Martin O'Neill's) thoughts. It (The Championship) is (a good stage to earn senior international recognition).

"That's part of the reason why I came here and didn't go back to Holland. You know, I had options in France, I had options in Israel, I had options everywhere.

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Maybe I took it up the wrong way.

Looks like goal.com inserted something extra into those quotes. go back and listen to the original interview - https://audioboom.com/boos/4770779-m...move-from-mcfc
At 5:10

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Byrne: My bread and butter is Blackburn, so hopefully if I'm playing well, - playing and playing well y'know, hopefully I'll be in his thoughts
Interviewer: It's a stage to really catch the eye really, the Championship, isn't it?
Byrne: It is, yeah. That's part of the reason why I came here and didn't go back to Holland, or, I had options in France, I had options in Israel, I had options everywhere, y'know. Maybe people don't know me that well in England, but because I've played in Europe, a lot of people know me around Europe

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Seems that he wants to raise his profile in England, where people don't know him, more than he thinks that playing in England will give him a better chance of playing for Ireland

Byrne made his debut today.

The natives think he added a lot of spark when he came on, demanding the ball and increasing their forays forward.

A good bit of praise reserved for Stoksey too.

Duffy seems to be absolved of the blame for the team performance, and in fact his performance was noted as one of the few positives.

Poor showing for Lenihan.

Sunday Times gave Duffy 4/10 this morning, though without mentioning him in the match report.

Hope I'm wrong u but seeing him on the bench yesterday makes me still think that he'll be seen as too small for midfield in the championship. Does anyone know where he played when he came on? Was he put on the wing?

Any update on this guy?

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Originally Posted by Irish_Praha

Any update on this guy?

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Started 6 games for Blackburn and came on as sub in another earlier in the season in League and League Cup action. But seems to have fallen out of favour a bit since then, being an unused sub on 12 occasions.

Thanks.
Think I read somewhere he had options for another loan to the continent but preferred to play in the UK.
He's on loan at Blackburn for the full season, if I was him I'd be trying to get out of there already.
It must be pretty frustrating after all the game time he got last season.

latest tweet is....odd: https://twitter.com/Jackb_8/status/814816753377275905

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latest tweet is....odd: https://twitter.com/Jackb_8/status/814816753377275905

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Responses would seem to indicate that his time at Blackburn is over - tweets from Blackburn fans seem very supportive of him and critical of Coyle

He could have been rubbish for all I know but seems odd a highly-rated player who did so well in Holland wouldn't get more chances. I thought the decision to go to Blackburn was a strange one to start with and it obviously didn't work out. I'd like to see him go out on the continent again instead of sticking with the second tier or lower in England.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

He could have been rubbish for all I know but seems odd a highly-rated player who did so well in Holland wouldn't get more chances. I thought the decision to go to Blackburn was a strange one to start with and it obviously didn't work out. I'd like to see him go out on the continent again instead of sticking with the second tier or lower in England.

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Yes if it's true lets hope he has learned from it and is hungry for a few games. If he has another opportunity to play on the continent he might not be so reluctant to accept this time.

Lancashire Telegraph reporting he's going back to City: http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...alking_Points/

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With Jack Byrne and Stephen Hendrie heading back to their respective clubs in January, Marvin Emnes’ loan up in the middle of January, uncertainty over the future of Ben Marshall and a lengthy injury list, Rovers need some fresh faces to add both quality and competition for the vital second half of the season

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Fellow loanee Jack Byrne hasn’t started a game for Rovers since August, and Coyle added: “I have had dialogue with Manchester City over Jack Byrne who we know is a very talented player.

“He will have a terrific career but I think it’s important Jack gets some game-time and he’s not had that of late.

“To be fair he has been ill over Christmas. The likelihood is that Jack will return to Manchester City and get some game-time, whether that be with another loan spell or in the youth teams.

“Martin Samuelsen leaving as well has obviously freed up some finance that we will look to use.”

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http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...by_Venky_s___/